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Chirac Rebukes Bush Over Turkey and the EU

"As Turkey meets the EU standards for membership, the European Union should begin talks that will lead to full membership for the Republic of Turkey."
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since france's current foreign policy model is to oppose the actions of the united states, there was only one thing he could do.
 
"It is is not his purpose and his goal to give any advice to the EU, and in this area it was a bit as if I were to tell Americans how they should handle their relationship with Mexico."
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Don't tell the US and others how to handle their relationship with Iraq.
 
Chirac is right, it's none of Bush business. France is a member of the EU, I doubt the US will ever join. As such, the US has no business trying to recruit members for something it is not a part of.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
"It is is not his purpose and his goal to give any advice to the EU, and in this area it was a bit as if I were to tell Americans how they should handle their relationship with Mexico."
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Don't tell the US and others how to handle their relationship with Iraq.
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Totally different situation.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Chirac is right, it's none of Bush business. France is a member of the EU, I doubt the US will ever join. As such, the US has no business trying to recruit members for something it is not a part of.
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No, it's an international affair and Turkey wants aid to get into the EU.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
"It is is not his purpose and his goal to give any advice to the EU, and in this area it was a bit as if I were to tell Americans how they should handle their relationship with Mexico."
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Don't tell the US and others how to handle their relationship with Iraq.
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Totally different situation.
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Of course, you'll rarely find the same exact situation anywhere, anytime. Don't be picky.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Chirac is right, it's none of Bush business. France is a member of the EU, I doubt the US will ever join. As such, the US has no business trying to recruit members for something it is not a part of.
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Wrong. If Turkey wants help, then Bush can do whatever he wants on the behalf of Turkey.

I guess Chirac just wants to whine more about the US.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: sandorski
Chirac is right, it's none of Bush business. France is a member of the EU, I doubt the US will ever join. As such, the US has no business trying to recruit members for something it is not a part of.
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Wrong. If Turkey wants help, then Bush can do whatever he wants on the behalf of Turkey.

I guess Chirac just wants to whine more about the US.
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Maybe Bush should take care of our border issue and help us here at home before trying to help Turkey and giving advice to France. Maybe France doesn't want to be overrun by illegal Turks like we are being overrun in California because Bush and the GOP would rather pander to illegals.
 
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: sandorski
Chirac is right, it's none of Bush business. France is a member of the EU, I doubt the US will ever join. As such, the US has no business trying to recruit members for something it is not a part of.
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Wrong. If Turkey wants help, then Bush can do whatever he wants on the behalf of Turkey.

I guess Chirac just wants to whine more about the US.
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Maybe Bush should take care of our border issue and help us here at home before trying to help Turkey and giving advice to France. Maybe France doesn't want to be overrun by illegal Turks like we are being overrun in California because Bush and the GOP would rather pander to illegals.
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I'm sure that it didn't take a lot of Bush's time to help out Turkey, if it even helped out.

France's opinion should not be the sole opinion. They may not like it, but it seems that Turkey is a legitimate candidate for EU admission.
 
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Meh, Chirac sees France as the counterweight to the U.S. More of the same here.
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Chirac should relize that France is a useless dingleberry in the world...

I think we should pack up our troops and send them to France....Mission accomplished in less than 48 hrs!
 
Originally posted by: Helenihi
Like Europe will ever let the Turks join the EU. Too brown and too Muslim.
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Turkey will join the EU in the next 5 - 10 years

the current issues are about Cyprus and the Kurds
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
"It is is not his purpose and his goal to give any advice to the EU, and in this area it was a bit as if I were to tell Americans how they should handle their relationship with Mexico."
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Don't tell the US and others how to handle their relationship with Iraq.
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I don't recall Iraq wanting to become the 51st state...


Let's face it, the US won't be footing any of the enormous bills associated with getting Turkey in, so not being outspoken is a good idea.
 
No matter what we want or do on this side of the pond the European Unions will want to do it differently. I have seen this for a long time in the Computer Field and the Communications Field. They just want to make it difficult for the USA to compete freely with them in a true free market. What the EU wants is a free market only for the EU nations. They dont like the USA because we represent quality products at lower prices. I think they envision piles of money traveling outside of Europe and hurting their economy. If you fail to realize the the EU sees us as advesaries, then you are blind.

I say pull all of our resources like troops out of Europe and let them defend themselves next time there is a war. If not out of Europe, pull out troops out of Germany and France. We work so hard to protect Europe and they have worked so hard to resist any access we have to European markets. The EU does not even value the protection we have have provided for them enough to let us compete in a free and open market. Let them dig their own graves.

USA troops spend lots of USA Dollars in the EU. If they hate us so much just pull our troops out or shift them to another location. Let them spend their USA Dollars in some of the Bases we have closed in the USA. The USA should go to a non Oil-based motor vehicle like a Hydrogen Vehicle. That way we can throw a big monkey wrench into the economy of the middle-east and they will not have the funds to buy so much arms and ammunition to kill us with.
 
Originally posted by: Helenihi
Like Europe will ever let the Turks join the EU. Too brown and too Muslim.
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Yup... they already treat their minorities like crap. Inviting Turkey would make more minorities, but also mean that they should be equals, which is against the European philosophy - equality for the majority, but not the minority.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Helenihi
Like Europe will ever let the Turks join the EU. Too brown and too Muslim.
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Yup... they already treat their minorities like crap. Inviting Turkey would make more minorities, but also mean that they should be equals, which is against the European philosophy - equality for the majority, but not the minority.
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damnit, even though you do have some points, just please stop talking out of your ass :|
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
No matter what we want or do on this side of the pond the European Unions will want to do it differently. I have seen this for a long time in the Computer Field and the Communications Field. They just want to make it difficult for the USA to compete freely with them in a true free market. What the EU wants is a free market only for the EU nations. They dont like the USA because we represent quality products at lower prices. I think they envision piles of money traveling outside of Europe and hurting their economy. If you fail to realize the the EU sees us as advesaries, then you are blind.

I say pull all of our resources like troops out of Europe and let them defend themselves next time there is a war. If not out of Europe, pull out troops out of Germany and France. We work so hard to protect Europe and they have worked so hard to resist any access we have to European markets. The EU does not even value the protection we have have provided for them enough to let us compete in a free and open market. Let them dig their own graves.

USA troops spend lots of USA Dollars in the EU. If they hate us so much just pull our troops out or shift them to another location. Let them spend their USA Dollars in some of the Bases we have closed in the USA. The USA should go to a non Oil-based motor vehicle like a Hydrogen Vehicle. That way we can throw a big monkey wrench into the economy of the middle-east and they will not have the funds to buy so much arms and ammunition to kill us with.
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What the hell are you talking about?
The US had troops in europe to "protect" western europe because of the cold war. Since the cold war ended, the politics of europe have changed dramatically. The EU has formed and as such it is quite capable of defending itself and it is becoming quite a strong economical adversary too (see the euro compared to the dollar).
so, what exactly is your point, since you are mixing old history (cold war era) with a new situation (EU)?
 
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