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[Chiploco] 780ti specifications leaked: in between 780 and Titan, 2496 cores

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http://www.chiploco.com/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-gpu-z-specifications-29788/

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti GPU-Z also reveals the clock speeds of the GPU. The GK110 GPU is clocked at 902 MHz with GPU Boost up to 954 MHz while the memory is clocked at 1502 MHz or 6 GHz effectively. When compared with GTX 780, the upcoming GTX 780 Ti has tiny bits of improvement in terms of specifications. Below is a table which shows the comparison between GeForce GTX 780, GTX 780 Ti and GTX TITAN.
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Doesn't appear to be replacing Titan, but will be in between Titan and GTX 780 in terms of speed. This will be like 4-5% faster than the 780 at stock reference clockspeeds with a ref cooler. Titan is ~10% faster? Around that. This is basically what I expected. NV releasing a SKU faster and cheaper than Titan really makes zero sense (AT REFERENCE SPEEDS AND STOCK COOLING), so this product stack retains product line integrity (at stock clockspeeds) while the 780ti doesn't overlap with Titan in terms of stock performance. I did not believe a 2880 core SKU cheaper than Titan while also being faster would be released, unless the Titan were discontinued.

So this SKU will come closer to trading blows with the 290X and will have the Geforce holiday bundle. It also won't cost 1000$ as the Titan does, obviously.
The only thing in my mind - overclocked 780s already fill the 780ti niche. Seems strange. But it is what it is. IN ANY CASE, the 780ti won't radically alter the GPU landscape this winter as some thought. But it will still be a pretty darn good GPU since it comes with 3 free games and should be priced at 650$ - which begs the question, what will the 780 be priced at? Hmm. This should bring an interesting price showdown between the 290X and 780ti. 290X *should* be ever slightly faster, but we'll see what happens with pricing. I really really hope the 290X is sub 600$, and hopefully the vanilla GTX 780 will also drop to sub 600$. The competition is becoming interesting to say the least.
 
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As I've said in the other thread:

8,3% more SMX
4,5% more base clock
5,8% more boost clock
-> 13-14% more performance. 3-4% is not realistic.
 
I don't get that. The Titan is 10% faster at stock clockspeeds than the 780 despite the rather large difference in CUDA cores. Would the clockspeed jump account for the difference? Perhaps, but most 780s boost around 1000 or past that anyway. It's possible, i'm not so sure about 13-14%. 13-14% would be faster than Titan. This also brings up the issue of product line overlap. NV would not overlap Titan with a cheaper faster SKU IMO. It will be close but not faster (stock clocks / reference cooled), IMHO, not unless the Titan is EOL'ed as you mentioned earlier. That is entirely possible if a Titan Ultra is released, I guess.

I will say I was off on the estimates, based on those increased clockspeeds i'd say this is REALLY CLOSE to Titan performance at stock clocks/reference cooling. Probably the same performance as Titan, or within 1-2% or so. Very very close to Titan or perhaps tied with Titan while being much, much cheaper.
 
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The Titan has 16,6% more cores, but only 97% of the 780's clock speed -> 13% more theoretical performance. Give or take a few percent and the 10% fit.

The problem is always boost, it makes these kinds of comparisons almost impossible.
 
I do not understand what the purpose of having three cards within such a small performance difference of each other would accomplish. Unless the 780 is being dropped and replaced by the 780Ti. But then the Titan is still right there, unless a Titan Ultra is soon to be released.
 
So basically an overclocked 780. I wonder if the AIB's will increase clocks further.

This is why I thought a 770 Ti made more sense then drop the price of the 770 and 780 since AIB overclocked models are already in this same space. I guess they wanted something to trade blows with the 290X stock for stock though.
 
So it'll be comparable in performance as the 290x, around the same price, comes with 3 games, AMD will probably want to rekindle their Never Settle bundle before the holidays too, and so everybody wins. No matter which colour you prefer, there's a card for you this Christmas. 😀
 
If this is true it's a stupid card.

Titan performance advantage OC vs OC against the 780 was already a trivial joke, now this will occupy the insanely small gray matter between the two.

Pointless card is pointless.
 
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UNhooked said:
The real positive should be price drops on the GTX 780s 🙂
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I'm having a hard time beliving Nvidia would do something this stupid.

A new sku for 5% more performance, which likely still won't be as fast as the 290X which they can beat... They have the technology so to speak?

Either Nvidia went full retard, or this is fake.


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PCIe 2.0... Starting to think this is fake. It's not exactly hard to fake gpuz.
 
The Titan still retains the single GPU crown, though, doesn't it? They don't need a new SKU to do that, based on the leaks I've seen. I'm guessing Titan wins 12-13 out 20 tests compared to a stock 290X. It's close but i'd say Titan retains the single GPU crown - so i'm just wondering if the 780ti was ever meant to fill that niche of single GPU crown.

I don't' believe it is (meant to be a new single GPU crown winner) - I personally think it brings Titan performance down to a 290X price level. Nothing more nothing less. So i'm guessing 780ti will be priced at 650$ while being even or close to even with the Titan. Titan technically still has the single GPU crown, I *think*, because while the 290X wins a lot of tests the Titan may win more overall when averaged out.

I think the most interesting aspect is:

1) aftermarket 780ti cards, *if* they are allowed
2) vanilla 780 price cuts

Of course, none of this is verified information so the usual pinch of salt disclaimer applies.
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
I'm having a hard time beliving Nvidia would do something this stupid.

A new sku for 5% more performance, which likely still won't be as fast as the 290X which they can beat... They have the technology so to speak?

Either Nvidia went full retard, or this is fake.


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PCIe 2.0... Starting to think this is fake. It's not exactly hard to fake gpuz.
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Or the 290X is not so UBER as we think?
 
I am hoping for $600 or for the GTX 780 driving used GTX 780 prices to the $500 mark 🙂

But I may for the first time buy a new vid card to get the discount on the Nvidia shield.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
I'm having a hard time beliving Nvidia would do something this stupid.

A new sku for 5% more performance, which likely still won't be as fast as the 290X which they can beat... They have the technology so to speak?

Either Nvidia went full retard, or this is fake.


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PCIe 2.0... Starting to think this is fake. It's not exactly hard to fake gpuz.
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Agree this move would make no sense, unless they have some new uber driver at its release. - titan just needs to go away so it can stop capping their lineup.
 
It has to be fake. Makes too little sense.
On the other hand people buy $400 gtx770 thinking they are getting faster card compared to 7970/280x on the basis: it is more expensive, it has to be faster. You get what you pay for, right? Brand value
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
If this is true it's a stupid card.

Titan performance advantage OC vs OC against the 780 was already a trivial joke, now this will occupy the insanely small gray matter between the two.

Pointless card is pointless.
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It's not pointless since it might mean GTX780 dropping to $499-549 to compete with R9 290 while 780 Ti goes against R9 290X.

I think AMD is going to take it 1 step further. I think they anticipated NV to respond with a faster GK110 and because of that they were waiting for the official announcement. Now if R9 290X is priced at $579, then a $649 780Ti and a price drop on 780 to $549 is still not good enough.

What's remarkable is that NV is so far reluctant to drop prices. R9 290 at $499 would obsolete all 4GB 770s.

MSI 770 4GB = $470
EVGA 770 4GB = $486
PNY 770 4GB = $496
EVGA Classified 770 4GB = $513

Looking forward to price wars.

What's confusing is that JHH said this is the fastest GPU they've ever built but both the Titan and K6000 are faster. 780Ti needed to be 2688 @ 980mhz or 2880 SP @ > 902mhz for this statement to be true.

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Aftermarket 780s are already faster than this new sku too, I guess Nvidia is just going to have 10 top end cards, each one 1% faster than the next.:whiste:
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That's not a valid comparison since there will be after-market 780Tis. Not sure why you are even comparing a reference 780Ti to an after-market 780.
 
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RussianSensation said:
It's not pointless since it might mean GTX780 dropping to $499-549 to compete with R9 290 while 780 Ti goes against R9 290X.

I think AMD is going to take it 1 step further. I think they anticipated NV to respond with a faster GK110 and because of that they were waiting for the official announcement. Now if R9 290X is priced at $579, then a $649 780Ti and a price drop on 780 to $549 is still not good enough.

What's remarkable is that NV is so far reluctant to drop prices. R9 290 at $499 would obsolete all 4GB 770s.

MSI 770 4GB = $470
EVGA 770 4GB = $486
PNY 770 4GB = $496
EVGA Classified 770 4GB = $513

Looking forward to price wars.

What's confusing is that JHH said this is the fastest GPU they've ever built but both the Titan and K6000 are faster. 780Ti needed to be 2688 @ 980mhz or 2880 SP @ > 902mhz for this statement to be true.



That's not a valid comparison since they will be after-market 780Tis. Not sure why you are even comparing a reference 780Ti to an after-market 780.
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While I completely disagree with your assumption that a $500 GTX 780 and a $650 GTX 780 Ti would make any sense, I do agree that they need a card BELOW the 780, not a new one 5% faster, slower than already released aftermarket 780s.

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That's not a valid comparison since they will be after-market 780Tis. Not sure why you are even comparing a reference 780Ti to an after-market 780.
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How is it not a valid comparison?

You think Nvidia is stupid enough to release a $650 GTX 780 Ti which is slower than the $550 aftermarket GTX 780s?

Or do you think we'll have $680 aftermarket 780s, a $650 780 Ti and a $550 780? Derp.

There is no room to maneuver a sku between the 780 and Titan.
 
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put 280X to $270 and GTX 770 to $300.
$370 for a aftermarket 770Ti. $450 for 290 and GTX 780. 780Ti and 290X at $600.

Stop exploring us GPU makers!

Remember everyone back in 2008 HD4850 landed beating 8800 ultra by a little margin and costing $200.
 
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