China's stipulation on NBA players

[Nitemare]

Looks like they want half of whatever the players make before taxes..

ESPN

12 million a year..

- 6 million for China

- 5 % agent fees

- x ammount for trainer, interpreter, and such..

Looks like Yao is going to be paying a bunch of money to play in the US...

 

[Instagib]

Thats a bunch a crap. I would flee if I was him.

 

[gopunk]

<< Thats a bunch a crap. I would flee if I was him. >>



it's actually not a bunch of crap, considering how china grooms these players.

 

[Fausto]

<< it's actually not a bunch of crap, considering how china grooms these players. >>


You mean like how they groom their female swim team? Yeah, those steroids can really add up.

Fausto

 

[Nitemare]

I think they consider certain players national treasures and it would hurt their local quality..

Not to mention the thousands of Chinese people who want to be like Yao...

taking the government approved posters off the wall and putting up a controversial US one....

What is the world coming to...

 

[gopunk]

well here's the thing, the government pays for his training, food, clothing, everything. he IS a national treasure, like any top athelete there is. they basically get raised by the state.

 

[astriy]

whatever, athlete's are overpaid anyway

 

[spanky]

<< Thats a bunch a crap. I would flee if I was him. >>



so where exactly would he go? he doesn't exactly blend in anywhere

 

[Fausto]

<< well here's the thing, the government pays for his training, food, clothing, everything. he IS a national treasure, like any top athelete there is. they basically get raised by the state. >>


Right, but the same argument applies to any of our athletes living and training out in CO at the national team facilities there. Many of the track/field and other athletes have been "raised" by the US since they were old enough to be identified as a national-caliber talent. You don't see us asking for a cut when they go play a pro sport in another country.

Fausto

 

[Instagib]

<<

<< Thats a bunch a crap. I would flee if I was him. >>



so where exactly would he go? he doesn't exactly blend in anywhere >>



I would seek asylum in the US

 

[gopunk]

<<

<< well here's the thing, the government pays for his training, food, clothing, everything. he IS a national treasure, like any top athelete there is. they basically get raised by the state. >>


Right, but the same argument applies to any of our athletes living and training out in CO at the national team facilities there. Many of the track/field and other athletes have been "raised" by the US since they were old enough to be identified as a national-caliber talent. You don't see us asking for a cut when they go play a pro sport in another country. >>




no, no u.s. athletes have been groomed like the chinese athletes have. does our government take care of their families? i don't think so. there is no comparison. btw, if they are leaving for another country, it usually means they aren't that great over here. so it's not like we're losing anything.

 

[Instagib]

It's only money though.

 

[Fausto]

<< no, no u.s. athletes have been groomed like the chinese athletes have. does our government take care of their families? i don't think so. there is no comparison. >>


I dunno...I'd be curious to see a side-by-side comparison of cash outlay for China and US athlete "care". (I have no idea, just curious)



<< btw, if they are leaving for another country, it usually means they aren't that great over here. so it's not like we're losing anything. >>


True. European League Football probably isn't the big pie in the sky for most college players ("Gosh, I sure hope I get drafted by the "Claymores") However, what does China really lose other than one person? It's not like everyone has a TV and can follow his exploits and have that glowing national pride feeling. They should be happy they've produced an athlete who can duke it out with the best (arguably based on olympic results) in the world and get the hell over it.

Fausto

 

[gopunk]

True. European League Football probably isn't the big pie in the sky for most college players ("Gosh, I sure hope I get drafted by the "Claymores") However, what does China really lose other than one person? It's not like everyone has a TV and can follow his exploits and have that glowing national pride feeling. They should be happy they've produced an athlete who can duke it out with the best (arguably based on olympic results) in the world and get the hell over it.

actually they do want to keep him for national pride. athletes are a great source of pride for china. it is bad for any country for talent of any kind to leave. it is all happy and good for the country who is receiving the talent, but as the originating country, you do NOT want to be in the position of basically putting resources into raising and training people that will just leave. we don't have this problem here because america is a rich and powerful country, but for other countries, they need to be concerned with such things.

 

[ys]

Hey, what's wrong with making some investment and finally get good return?
We all capitalists at heart, aren't we.

 

[wyvrn]

I'm glad the Mavs got Zhizhi for much less than that.

 

[Pacfanweb]

<<it's actually not a bunch of crap, considering how china grooms these players. >>

Yeah, they have a helluva track record in grooming basketball players. The guy would have been better "groomed" by playing HS and AAU ball in the US.


<< btw, if they are leaving for another country, it usually means they aren't that great over here. so it's not like we're losing anything.>>

If you're talking Olympic athletes, you're wrong. When an Olympic athlete turns pro, he doesn't owe the US a thing. If a basketball player goes overseas to play, he's still making some big money. Just because a baller can't play in the NBA doesn't mean he can't make some serious $$$.

 

[HamSupLo]

I would apply for a green card if i were him.

Here's some interesting info on his potential:

Yao has been to the U.S. with his team and as an amateur, but this will be his first time as a prospective NBA player. Players like Fresno State's Melvin Ely and Alabama's Erwin Dudley went up against Yao in the World University Games semifinals in Beijing last August. Yao blocked a game winning shot by Ely and China went on to win the gold. Both Dudley and Ely said Yao is an immovable force in the middle when he gets the ball. They both said he simply couldn't be stopped from getting a shot off if he has it close to the basket but he can be denied the ball.

 

[poopaskoopa]

My allegiance probably won't go beyond the coaches and the players.... They should be happy if they get so much as a Lexus... 50% of pre-tax income(plus the other cuts to various organizations) is a lot... It's not like they taught him to be 7-foot whatever... That's not to say things should be different for guards and forwards though. If he wants to give them the money, good for him, but if not...

p.s. I'm a golden member!!!

 

[b0mbrman]

<< <<it's actually not a bunch of crap, considering how china grooms these players. >>

Yeah, they have a helluva track record in grooming basketball players. The guy would have been better "groomed" by playing HS and AAU ball in the US. >>


But if they hadn't groomed him, he'd probably just be a really tall teacher, doctor, or whatever...

 

[Fausto]

<< they need to be concerned with such things. >>


They need to be concerned with bringing their social and political structure into the 20th damn century and not haggling with the US on principle over the "buyout" price of their 7 foot tall national treasure.

I see where you're coming from, but China does not "own" this guy however much they have invested in him. As such, they have no right to ask for a handout from the US for him to play here based mostly on principle (the principle of being annoying as hell to the US whenever possible). Besides, I don't see them pulling this same crap with the thousands of chinese PhD's that live and work in the US for american companies. Isn't that the same thing, though on a less glamorous scale than that of a pro athlete? It's a huge brain drain that could be working to improve China and its technology, but they are instead working for us.

Fausto

 

[soccerbud34]

i'll be skeptical about Yao until he proves he can play with proven centers such as Shaq or Tim Duncan

 

[DDCSpeed]

The reason why China is getting so much money is because he is still under contract with a Chinese Basketball team. Therefore the money is paid to buy the contract for every year he is under the contract. Its the same thing with pitchers from Japan.

 

[Lucky]

<< btw, if they are leaving for another country, it usually means they aren't that great over here. so it's not like we're losing anything.>>

If you're talking Olympic athletes, you're wrong. When an Olympic athlete turns pro, he doesn't owe the US a thing. If a basketball player goes overseas to play, he's still making some big money. Just because a baller can't play in the NBA doesn't mean he can't make some serious $$$.[/i] >>





Excuse me for talking for gopunk, but he said they arent that great over here, he didnt say they cant make money. But in any case, I cant see the money being anywhere near comparable what some NBA players make.

 

[Lucky]

<< The reason why China is getting so much money is because he is still under contract with a Chinese Basketball team. Therefore the money is paid to buy the contract for every year he is under the contract. Its the same thing with pitchers from Japan. >>





so why was this based on a law if you what you say is correct? It seems the new law applies to all foreign althetes. I didnt see where it said for those under contract.