China Troubled by US Nuke Offer to India

[Chinadefender]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: kalster
Its a astonishing that China being a communist country is scared of 1 of the largest democrary in the world possesing nucelar weapons, India unlike China doesnt have any history of supporting dictatorships like Pakistan or North Korea

China and India have been to war and are in constant dispute over territory and border limits. Making India a more capable defender will be seen as a threat by Bejing.

It's about time the U.S. became friends with India to contain China. They're the only ones who have to a chance to rival China's growth (and a small chance at that).

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The only result would be that NPT would be absolutely a piece of paper.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Chinadefender

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: kalster
Its a astonishing that China being a communist country is scared of 1 of the largest democrary in the world possesing nucelar weapons, India unlike China doesnt have any history of supporting dictatorships like Pakistan or North Korea

China and India have been to war and are in constant dispute over territory and border limits. Making India a more capable defender will be seen as a threat by Bejing.

It's about time the U.S. became friends with India to contain China. They're the only ones who have to a chance to rival China's growth (and a small chance at that).

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The only result would be that NPT would be absolutely a piece of paper.

That's an empty threat by China, since countries try to get nuclear weapons regardless of NPT.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
OK. So no country else would want to take non-proliferation responsibility, why should China alone take this responsibility???

Proliferation makes profits and prevents lots of suspicion and accuse. OK. If you have money, you may come to buy.

Welcome to this nuke world.

So lets be clear, China can sell nukes to whoever it wants because the US is going to build some light water reactors for India who already possesses nuclear weapons? Great arguement, you should be in the debate club. It's interesting to see how your tone changes when the one that could be aquiring nuclear material is a country your's has been to war with.

Lets also not forget that China is selling the tech to countries that ARE signatories to the NPT treaty and the US isn't in this case.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
Sadly you have nothing to know about Non-proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) . It is common that some guys would come out blah blah without reading a bit more.

http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/

Nuclear power station has relationship with nuclear weapons, despite which reactor it is.

So even the civilian nuclear technology and material transfer, and the nuclear powers are still in strict supervision under NPT.

And India has not even signed NPT!!! Understand?

It could also be expected that Pakistan would also ask for it. If talking about politics, Pakistan plays a much more important role in the war against terrorism.

Do not forget that Russia had to cease the civilian nuclear cooperation with Iran under huge international pressure. Russia would be happy now. France might also restart the cooperation with Iran.

I do not mean to be against any country. But if it continues, proliferation of Nuclear Weapons could not be stopped. Surely some guys may like it.

OK. So no country else would want to take non-proliferation responsibility, why should China alone take this responsibility???

Proliferation makes profits and prevents lots of suspicion and accuse. OK. If you have money, you may come to buy.

Welcome to this nuke world.

An extremely minimal risk since they already have breeder reactors. They can just dump natural uranium into those and turn out plutonium. If really pressed for material, they could in theory use the CANDU reactors they have since fuel can simply be shifted through the reactor while in operation.

It would be pointless for them to go through the trouble of reprocessing the spent fuel output from our light water designs.

The extent of Russia's nuclear involvement with Iran was the completion of the Bushehr reactor (which they did) and to provide fuel for it which would be shipped back to Russia when depleted.

I am very skeptical about China's motives since it is very likely that they assisted Pakistan with their weapons program. That technology then made its way to NK and Iran via AQ Khan.

 

[Chinadefender]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Chinadefender
OK. So no country else would want to take non-proliferation responsibility, why should China alone take this responsibility???

Proliferation makes profits and prevents lots of suspicion and accuse. OK. If you have money, you may come to buy.

Welcome to this nuke world.

So lets be clear, China can sell nukes to whoever it wants because the US is going to build some light water reactors for India who already possesses nuclear weapons? Great arguement, you should be in the debate club. It's interesting to see how your tone changes when the one that could be aquiring nuclear material is a country your's has been to war with.

Lets also not forget that China is selling the tech to countries that ARE signatories to the NPT treaty and the US isn't in this case.

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At least you should give the link showing clear evidence that China broke NPT.🙂 Do not forget China has also joined Zangger Committee.

China has exported nuclear materials to Canada, France, Germany and also US, and also imported nuclear materials from Frace, Russia and Canada. All those deals are for civilian nulcear purposes under NPT and related committee.

The point is that India has not even joined NPT, and openly refused to sign it for many times.

If wanting to debate whether China broke NPT, just let governments debate in UN nuclear supersion authorities. But I believe it would not be you or me.

If you want to use empty accuse like Iraq WMD in this forum, I do not mind you would be my clown. 😎

After all, if US do not mind NPT die or not, it makes no difference that China or Russia or UK or France mind it or not.

Welcome to this nuke world!:laugh:

 

[Chinadefender]

I never think that NPT is perfect and those committees are perfectly efficient.

But at least they are there and play an important role against proliferation.

And those who have signed it should have at least a bit respect to international treaty.

Perhaps facts prove that US is an exception.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: kalster
Its a astonishing that China being a communist country is scared of 1 of the largest democrary in the world possesing nucelar weapons, India unlike China doesnt have any history of supporting dictatorships like Pakistan or North Korea

China and India have been to war and are in constant dispute over territory and border limits. Making India a more capable defender will be seen as a threat by Bejing.

Good.

Welcome to the new world. We should abide by the ideals of the UN. India is. Maybe China should.

Edit: And I wish Vic or Gunslinger would come in here. I'm no sucker for India. I'm a sucker for the ideals of the UN. Maybe it makes me a hopeless idealist socialist but whatever 🙂