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China Rocks!

Actually, this was originally designed as part of a secret plot to foil their "one-child-only" policy. It backfired after the factory at which the plotter worked started exporting to the US.



I'm surprised this made the news. It seems that if no one knew about it, it would be less of a threat. It makes me wonder how many other things are quietly recalled due to similar effects, but no one finds out why...
 
Its getting to the point where you have to think twice about buying anything made in China that could potentially be harmful in any way & thats covering a lot of ground.
 
Originally posted by: Captante
Its getting to the point where you have to think twice about buying anything made in China that could potentially be harmful in any way & thats covering a lot of ground.
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That's not true, there is always toy cars.

Oh wait, toy cars are now being recalled too. Lead paint. (same article in the OP)
 
probably become popular with the ravers and then a chick will sue because she got raped after knowingly sucking on a toy that contains a date-rape drug.
 
Where does the fault lie in this case, manufacturing or the design process? If it was a design flaw, it doesn't matter where the toys come from.
 
I've seen the commercials for Aqua Dots all over TV on the cartoon stations my son watches. He's even said that he wants them...of course I'm not stupid enough to buy that crap because I know that as soon as he plays with it once he'll get bored with it and I'll have bags of these stupid beads lying around the house. I'm sure millions of these have been sold though based on the commercial bombardment I've witnessed on TV in the last 6-8 months.
 
So the Chinese are trying to poison our kids. Lead paint to lower their already low IQ and now putting them to sleep...permanently.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
with pics
http://consumerist.com/consume...pretty-cool-319759.php

chinese products are nuts lol
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From a quote a couple links down:
I'm guessing the chemical in question is 1,4-butanediol, which the body metabolizes to GHB. There are a number of products that contain 1,4-butanediol as it's a common solvent for inks and paints. This isn't really that big a deal.
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From wiki:
Uses

1,4-Butanediol is used industrially as a solvent and in the manufacture of some types of plastics and fibers. In organic chemistry, 1,4-butanediol is used for the synthesis of ?-butyrolactone (GBL). In the presence of phosphoric acid and high temperature, it dehydrates to the important solvent tetrahydrofuran.[1]. At about 200 °C in the presence of soluble ruthenium catalysts, the diol undergoes dehydrogenation to form butyrolactone.[2]

It is also used as a recreational drug known by some users as "One Comma Four", "One Four Bee" or "One Four B-D-O". It exerts effects similar to ?-hydroxybutyrate (GHB), which is a metabolic product of 1,4-butanediol.[3]

Anecdotal reports indicate that 1,4-butanediol produces a strong toxic feeling not present with GHB when ingested.[4][5] These reports also indicate that it may cause damage to the liver as well as to other vital organs.[6][7] Abuse has also resulted in addiction and death.[8][9][10]

[edit] Pharmacokinetics

1,4-Butanediol is converted into GHB by the enzymes alcohol dehydrogenase and aldehyde dehydrogenase and differing levels of these enzymes may account for differences in effects and side effects between users.[11][12] Because these enzymes are also responsible for metabolizing alcohol there is a strong chance of a dangerous drug interaction.[12][13] Emergency room patients who overdose on both alcohol and 1,4-butanediol often present with symptoms of ethanol intoxication initially and as the ethanol is metabolized the 1,4-butandiol is then able to better compete for the enzyme and a second period of intoxication ensues as the 1,4-butanediol is converted into GHB.[12]

[edit] Pharmacodynamics

1,4-Butanediol seems to have two types of pharmacological actions. The major psychoactive effects of 1,4-butanediol are due to the fact that it is metabolized into GHB, however there is some evidence that 1,4-butanediol may have inherent alcohol-like pharmacological effects that are not due to this conversion.[13]
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So I guess we can put this down as similar to huffing glue: It'll get you high and it's readily and easily available, but you still gotta be a moron to try it.
 
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Where does the fault lie in this case, manufacturing or the design process? If it was a design flaw, it doesn't matter where the toys come from.
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It lies equally with the manufacturer, the company that designed it, and with the companies who sell it. I am getting so skeptical of the shit we import from China by the millions of tons on a daily basis...it's ridiculous what our economy and our society has become. Fucking bunch of whores to cheap goods no matter what the cost.

Send millions of jobs overseas? No problem.
Sacrifice quality? No problem.
Kill a few children? No problem.

After all, you can never have too many walmart mega-centers right?
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
with pics
http://consumerist.com/consume...pretty-cool-319759.php

chinese products are nuts lol
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From a quote a couple links down:
I'm guessing the chemical in question is 1,4-butanediol, which the body metabolizes to GHB. There are a number of products that contain 1,4-butanediol as it's a common solvent for inks and paints. This isn't really that big a deal.
Click to expand...

From wiki:
Uses

1,4-Butanediol is used industrially as a solvent and in the manufacture of some types of plastics and fibers. In organic chemistry, 1,4-butanediol is used for the synthesis of ?-butyrolactone (GBL). In the presence of phosphoric acid and high temperature, it dehydrates to the important solvent tetrahydrofuran.[1]. At about 200 °C in the presence of soluble ruthenium catalysts, the diol undergoes dehydrogenation to form butyrolactone.[2]

It is also used as a recreational drug known by some users as "One Comma Four", "One Four Bee" or "One Four B-D-O". It exerts effects similar to ?-hydroxybutyrate (GHB), which is a metabolic product of 1,4-butanediol.[3]

Anecdotal reports indicate that 1,4-butanediol produces a strong toxic feeling not present with GHB when ingested.[4][5] These reports also indicate that it may cause damage to the liver as well as to other vital organs.[6][7] Abuse has also resulted in addiction and death.[8][9][10]

[edit] Pharmacokinetics

1,4-Butanediol is converted into GHB by the enzymes alcohol dehydrogenase and aldehyde dehydrogenase and differing levels of these enzymes may account for differences in effects and side effects between users.[11][12] Because these enzymes are also responsible for metabolizing alcohol there is a strong chance of a dangerous drug interaction.[12][13] Emergency room patients who overdose on both alcohol and 1,4-butanediol often present with symptoms of ethanol intoxication initially and as the ethanol is metabolized the 1,4-butandiol is then able to better compete for the enzyme and a second period of intoxication ensues as the 1,4-butanediol is converted into GHB.[12]

[edit] Pharmacodynamics

1,4-Butanediol seems to have two types of pharmacological actions. The major psychoactive effects of 1,4-butanediol are due to the fact that it is metabolized into GHB, however there is some evidence that 1,4-butanediol may have inherent alcohol-like pharmacological effects that are not due to this conversion.[13]
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So I guess we can put this down as similar to huffing glue: It'll get you high and it's readily and easily available, but you still gotta be a moron to try it.
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Yeah, that's why you put child protective locks on your cabinets when you have young children...because they're morons. :roll:

This is a product that is being marketed directly to and for children. Only a complete idiot would assume that a child would never ingest one of these things. Let's make it out of poison since only a moron would ingest poison right? No matter how cool it looks? :|
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
This is a product that is being marketed directly to and for children. Only a complete idiot would assume that a child would never ingest one of these things. Let's make it out of poison since only a moron would ingest poison right? No matter how cool it looks? :|
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Better keep your kids away from this stuff, then. You should probably stop using this stuff until your child is 18, be very very cautious with this stuff, and certainly never even dream of letting your child within 500 yards of this stuff.

In fact, you should probably keep them under lock and key. Just make sure the lock doesn't have any sharp edges on it.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
This is a product that is being marketed directly to and for children. Only a complete idiot would assume that a child would never ingest one of these things. Let's make it out of poison since only a moron would ingest poison right? No matter how cool it looks? :|
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Better keep your kids away from this stuff, then. You should probably stop using this stuff until your child is 18, be very very cautious with this stuff, and certainly never even dream of letting your child within 500 yards of this stuff.

In fact, you should probably keep them under lock and key. Just make sure the lock doesn't have any sharp edges on it.
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Um yeah...because those are things you might let your child play with because they are actually children's toys. I always let my child play with gasoline, hair care products, glue, and let's not forget "Forbidden. You do not have permission to access this document." I always let my child play with those things.

Have you ever had a child of your own? I suppose you'd leave bleach and other cleaning products just lying around? Maybe put them in baby bottles just to test the intelligence of your child?

Edit-My son is 5 years old and while I don't think he'd put one of these things in his mouth or swallow it you never know with children. You really have to assume that if your child does accidentally ingest a small plastic toy, which is a distinct possibility, and it doesn't lodge in his throat and choke him, which is the major concern with small toys, that it won't kill him if he does. I don't think that's too much to ask.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Edit-My son is 5 years old and while I don't think he'd put one of these things in his mouth or swallow it you never know with children. You really have to assume that if your child does accidentally ingest a small plastic toy, which is a distinct possibility, and it doesn't lodge in his throat and choke him, which is the major concern with small toys, that it won't kill him if he does. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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My original point was that the "OMG RAVERS WILL LUV THIS" people were, perhaps, overstating the significance of this chemical. When you did your "why do you hate children?" spiel, I pointed out that the relatively insignificant amount of the stuff that would make it into a child's system in the fairly rare event of a piece being swallowed was nothing compared to the far greater danger posed by almost every other object found in a household.

Here is a picture of me as a baby. And yet, here I am today. Sheer blind luck, or a sense of caution developed through experience?
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Edit-My son is 5 years old and while I don't think he'd put one of these things in his mouth or swallow it you never know with children. You really have to assume that if your child does accidentally ingest a small plastic toy, which is a distinct possibility, and it doesn't lodge in his throat and choke him, which is the major concern with small toys, that it won't kill him if he does. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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My original point was that the "OMG RAVERS WILL LUV THIS" people were, perhaps, overstating the significance of this chemical. When you did your "why do you hate children?" spiel, I pointed out that the relatively insignificant amount of the stuff that would make it into a child's system in the fairly rare event of a piece being swallowed was nothing compared to the far greater danger posed by almost every other object found in a household.

Here is a picture of me as a baby. And yet, here I am today. Sheer blind luck, or a sense of caution developed through experience?
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was a thread about a child's toy. I didn't realize it was really about ravers.

Of course there are things in the house that pose a greater danger. That's why you don't let your kids play with those things. This is a child's toy though...not a chemical cleaner or gasoline.

BTW-I didn't see anything in that article that stated you needed to consume large quantities of this children's toy for it to cause you harm. We have hundreds of thousands of children's toys that were made in China recalled because of lead paint, now we have this story about another children's toy that can potentially kill your child if ingested. Yeah, there's nothing to worry about. If your kid dies it's just natural selection.
 
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