China releases human rights plan

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blackangst1

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In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights. Although it remains to be seen what effectively will be done, it looks like they're on the right track.

China releases first human rights action plan



BEIJING ? China released its first human rights action plan Monday, pledging to improve the treatment of minorities and do more to prevent the torture of detainees but said that raising living standards would remain a central goal.

China has been criticized by other governments, the United Nations and activists for aggressively promoting economic reform over the past few decades while falling short on basic human rights such as freedom of speech, religion and the right to a fair trial.

The government responds to such criticism by pointing to its accomplishments in improving the lot of hundreds of millions of people.

"While respecting the universal principles of human rights, the Chinese government, in the light of the basic realities of China, gives priority to the protection of the people's rights to subsistence and development," said an introduction to the document released by the official Xinhua News Agency.

The two-year plan promises the communist government will do more to prevent illegal detention and torture, and to boost the overall living standard of minorities, women, the unemployed and the disabled.

But it says a central tenet of its policy remains ensuring Chinese people have the right to make money.

China drew up the plan as part of preparations for its first examination before the U.N. Human Rights Council earlier this year.

Joshua Rosenzweig, research manager for the Dui Hua Foundation, a U.S.-based human rights group, said the plan was notable because it seemed to have more input from academics, activists and other elements of civil society than the government's previous human rights reports.

He also said issuing a plan with benchmarks, instead of a report summing up past progress, was also an "important step."

On preventing prisoner abuse, the plan promises that detainees, their families and the community will be informed of detainees' rights as well as law-enforcement standards and procedures.

It calls for a physical barrier between detainees and interrogators and mandatory physical examinations for detainees before and after they are questioned to prevent abuse.

Prisoners should be allowed to meet with a dedicated prison staffer to complain if they have suffered abuse, it said.

A recent string of inmate deaths in China that have sparked public concern. Since Feb. 8, at least five prisoners have reportedly died while in detention awaiting trial, the youngest just 18 years old, state media reported earlier.

Such accusations are widespread, with rights groups and Chinese media frequently reporting cases of prisoners being beaten or tortured. Authorities have prosecuted some of the worst offenders, but the charges persist.

The section on the death penalty is brief, stating simply that the use of the penalty will be "strictly controlled and prudently applied."

China is believed to execute more people annually than any other country, but the actual figure remains a state secret for reasons that remain obscure.

Chinese convictions are swift, with trials for capital cases routinely taking just a day or two. Executions are meted out within a few months of conviction, despite a 2007 policy change that mandates all capital cases be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

Rosenzweig criticized the government for setting modest goals and not including more specifics.

"They have set some pretty soft targets for themselves," he said.
 

Schadenfroh

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In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights.
You do not need human rights to be a superpower.....
 

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China's lag in terms of human rights with respect to the rest of the world is one of the reason's they've become a world power so quickly. It isn't surprising they'd want to move as slowly and modestly as possible on this issue.

China is believed to execute more people annually than any other country, but the actual figure remains a state secret for reasons that remain obscure.

Chinese convictions are swift, with trials for capital cases routinely taking just a day or two. Executions are meted out within a few months of conviction, despite a 2007 policy change that mandates all capital cases be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

In the US, it costs the government years and millions of dollars to execute someone. In fact, it costs more money to execute a felon than to put them away for life. Funny how it just takes a few days in China.
 

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights.
You do not need human rights to be a superpower.....

Exactly, look at the former Soviet Union.
 

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights.
You do not need human rights to be a superpower.....

Exactly, look at the former Soviet Union.

Or the Bush administration
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights.
You do not need human rights to be a superpower.....

Never disagreed with that :)
 

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights.
You do not need human rights to be a superpower.....

Exactly, look at the former Soviet Union.

Or the Bush administration

A change in governemnt is different than a change of government

 

Dari

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Why is this even an issue? If we want to criticize others, perhaps we should start with ourselves or our allies, namely those in the region. Japan's police force is very harsh and the South Koreans are arresting journalists as we speak and stifling freedom of speech. Everything is relative, of course, but unless we're going to use this as a political weapon against the Chinese, I see no use discussing it too much.
 

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Meh only when the various Turic groups in XinJiang and the Tibetans in XiZang start to talk about a government that isn't out to purposely squash them will I believe it.

Dari - I suggest reading http://www.amazon.com/Xinjiang...Caucasus/dp/0765613182 - save for one chapter (each chapter is written by different professors - and that one chapter in particular seemed to railed ON AND ON about Muslim Terrorism like he had a axe to grind...it was also the worst written chapter in the book as it even cited WorldNetDaily as sources. I have no idea how that section was approved without major changes. In the end I found out it was an Israeli Professor who wrote that section...go figure) the rest of the book is really excellent, and describes how the locals are systematically denied the same benefits by the government, attacked and demonized when they organize even purely for social reasons focused on improving their own community (helping people overcome alcohol or drug addiction), and then ostracized for their apparent failure to be anything more than lazy bums (like blacks in the USA...but turn back the clock many years and add a twist of Chinese authoritarianism).
 

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
In the last 15 years China has really started positioning themselves to become a true superpower. Of course on issue has always been human rights. Although it remains to be seen what effectively will be done, it looks like they're on the right track.

China releases first human rights action plan

Get back to me on this subject when they stop butchering Tibetans.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Dari
Why is this even an issue? If we want to criticize others, perhaps we should start with ourselves or our allies, namely those in the region. Japan's police force is very harsh and the South Koreans are arresting journalists as we speak and stifling freedom of speech. Everything is relative, of course, but unless we're going to use this as a political weapon against the Chinese, I see no use discussing it too much.

I see plenty of use. We need to do both. The issue is to promote human rights, not to take sides and be inconsistent.

Most of the world is far worse than the US on human rights in many ways, and we should fight for rights, politically, in those places - even while we also need to deal with our own problems. For all our pride, for example, in our greatest civil rights progress in the last century - the end of segregation in the 1960's - few now would like to acknowledge how much the cold war competition played a role in ouir dealing with the problem, and how much public resistance there was to doing so.

We can point to wrongful acts of violence by others with legitimacy - and need to take more responsibility for our own wrongs such as two million Vietnamese killed.

When the issue of human rights is made into a partisan issue whether ignoring wrongs by our nation or other nations, the issue of rights loses, tied down by the partisanship.
 

OCGuy

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Releasing a plan = action? :roll:


China has a long way to go on human rights. While it is a good thing they actually have a plan, there are infant girls that are dying every day due to their policies. And that is just the surface.
 

rudder

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The government there needs to get a grip on other things as well... namely the pollution or else in 20 years we will be discussing their mutant rights record.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Releasing a plan = action? :roll:


China has a long way to go on human rights. While it is a good thing they actually have a plan, there are infant girls that are dying every day due to their policies. And that is just the surface.

No. Not at all. But its a step in the right direction. I have many friends in China and hope in my lifetime to see their country prosper. Theyre a wonderful people with a rich history.
 
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