China issues new Internet controls

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<< BEIJING (AP) - China has issued its most intrusive Internet controls to date, ordering service providers to screen private e-mail for political content and holding them responsible for subversive postings on their Web sites.

The new rules, posted earlier this week on the Web site of the Ministry of Information Industry, represent Beijing's latest efforts to tighten its grip on the only major medium in China not already under state control.

The regulations also create new difficulties for a competitive industry trying to attract more overseas investment.

Foreign software makers must now guarantee in writing that their products do not contain hidden programs that would allow spying or hacking into Chinese computers. The rules also require computers playing an important role in Chinese networks to use only domestic software.

Many in the industry had hoped for a more liberal climate following China's entry into the World Trade Organization (news - web sites). But the rules pointed to Beijing's resolve to keep the Web from being used to spread opposition to Communist Party rule.

Under the new rules, general portal sites must install security programs to screen and copy all e-mail messages sent or received by users. Those containing ``sensitive materials'' must be turned over to authorities.

Providers are also responsible for erasing all prohibited content posted on their Web sites, including online chatrooms and bulletin boards.

The new rules include a long list of banned content prohibiting writings that reveal state secrets, hurt China's reputation or advocate the overthrow of communism, ethnic separatism or ``evil cults.''

The last category covers the Falun Gong (news - web sites) spiritual movement, which has frequently resorted to the Internet to defy a harsh two-year crackdown.

Pornography and violence are also prohibited.

Authorities have struggled to deal with the Internet since it took off in China in the mid-1990s. They want to prevent it from becoming a forum for political discontent without harming its value to business and education.

China issued its first guidelines on Internet content in late 2000, requiring providers to monitor online chatrooms and bulletin boards and keep records of users' viewing times, addresses and telephone numbers.

In a country where other major media only mouth the party line, the Internet is often a lively site of impassioned debate. When a fireworks explosion at a southern Chinese school killed dozens of children last year, a flurry of postings criticized the official version blaming a lone bomber and repeated foreign news reports that teachers had forced the children to make firecrackers.
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Keego

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ya know... I don't recognize your name but I've seen you in a bunch of threads today. hey :)
 
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<< ya know... I don't recognize your name but I've seen you in a bunch of threads today. hey :) >>


That's probably because I'm easily forgettable. :(

:)
 

iamshady

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Look at software and music pirating, China can never stop the freedom of the internet.
 

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<< China can go get fu*ked for all i care >>



cambodia too, an north korea as well, peckers , the lot of them
 

Piano Man

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China issues Internet controlling, the US DMV wants a national ID card. Both the same thing. Big Brother is watching.
 

Lord Evermore

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China can very well control what comes into their country. When they have complete control of businesses, they can guarantee that any ISP is filtering all content. (I foresee a boom in the firewall business in China soon.) I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes illegal for private citizens to use encryption apps (if it's not already illegal). Nothing will be able to get past a user's own ISP, so it will be possible to stop porn as long as the government puts the effort into cracking down on ISP's that don't follow the laws.
 

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<< China issues Internet controlling, the US DMV wants a national ID card. Both the same thing. Big Brother is watching. >>



Yes except China is using extremes.

This, however, does not make China or Chinese are "evil" or "anti-american" just because you do not share the same values. Think of your chinese friends before you go about saying things like "Let's nuke 'em all!". Imagine your friends. And the same goes for the Jews and Arabs.

It's really easy to say you are the enemy of an entire people when you have never even met a single representative.
 
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<< China issues Internet controlling, the US DMV wants a national ID card. Both the same thing. Big Brother is watching. >>


Not quite. Every aspect of the Chinese media is state controlled.
 
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As many people as there are in that country, how can the government still be as overbearing as they are? I mean, doesn't this crap piss the Chinese folks off enough to do something about it? Or are the majority content to live in their their little government-controlled world? I'm sorry if this comes off as ignorant, but when it comes to the inner workings of China ignorant is something I don't claim not to be.
 

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<< As many people as there are in that country, how can the government still be as overbearing as they are? I mean, doesn't this crap piss the Chinese folks off enough to do something about it? Or are the majority content to live in their their little government-controlled world? I'm sorry if this comes off as ignorant, but when it comes to the inner workings of China ignorant is something I don't claim not to be. >>



some people get pissed off, but most either a.) don't care (not everybody uses the internet after all)... or b.) don't feel like getting throw in prison. at least that's what i gathered from my month there.
 
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<< As many people as there are in that country, how can the government still be as overbearing as they are? I mean, doesn't this crap piss the Chinese folks off enough to do something about it? Or are the majority content to live in their their little government-controlled world? I'm sorry if this comes off as ignorant, but when it comes to the inner workings of China ignorant is something I don't claim not to be. >>


one word: fear
 

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<< China issues Internet controlling, the US DMV wants a national ID card. Both the same thing. Big Brother is watching. >>





well said.......



Jen
 

gopunk

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one word: fear

there's more to it than that. not everybody really cares about the internet over there. you think some farmer gives a rat's ass?
 

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<< Every aspect of the Chinese media is state controlled >>



and so is CNN, i'm sick and tired of those "official" infuences. What a bunch of garbage and propaganda.
 

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<< U.S. can go get fu*ked for all i care >>



care to elaborate? :disgust:
 
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<< U.S. can go get fu*ked for all i care >>




<< and so is CNN, i'm sick and tired of those "official" infuences. What a bunch of garbage and propaganda. >>


Good grief. What the fvck are you talking about? There are thousands of news sources in this country. :disgust:


 

Grunt03

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Ok all how about doing this.

Go through your house and seperate everything that you think is 100%
American made. Place it in a room all by itself. Then start a list of what
each item is made of or from. Then take this list and conduct a search
useing the internet or by calling the company and asking them directly.
Where do they purchase all of the meterals from. Where does that fabric
come from or the dye, the metal, the rubber or the plastic, the chipsets.

What you will find is most all of it comes from overseas. Heck you onlu have to
look at the childrens toys and you will find most of them are made in Hong Kong, Korea
Japan, China etc......

Read your own history and things like the radar was invented by a Japanese manwho tried to
get the Japanese Military to use the invention. Instead they put him in jail, he later escaped
came to the states, sold the patton to our military and we used it to drop the bomb on the inventors
country. I left out the part about we put him into the prison camp with the other Japanese.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Some petty bureaucreat has come across "The Bear and the Dragon" by Tom Clancy, he posted a memo on it to his superior hoping to attract favours from some secretary of state, then a few months later they come up with a new law.

As for why people don't revolt... it's very clear you can't imagine the pressure exercited by the regime. The population is pitted, each individual in part, against a state system whose resources, reach and size are evident, enough to mark permanently the more impressionable minds. The masses see and love "Big Brother", and even if they don't like the regime, they fear the uncertainty that looms behind "the devil you know". And if you don't know, and you can't be sure, that if you take an iron bar and storm the government building, others will follow, your zeal will disappear quicker than snow in July. Only heroes and saints go about alone and succeed to bring a change. Those who attempt it and fail are just known (if at all) as "mad" or, at best, "statistics".
 

Kilgor

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What does a Japanese guy inventing radar have to do with hating commies? I hate pinko?s with a passion, I could care less what ethnic background. Commies killed more people than Hitler ever dreamed of. I don?t hate all the Chinese just the commie ones.