China/India - Military Power (Pictures)

Aimster · Mar 8, 2005

SofaKing · Mar 8, 2005

Their military is growing fast, but they still won't be able compare with US for a long time. Expect them to catch up in a few decades, which is still a scary thought..

Aimster · Mar 8, 2005

ntdz · Mar 8, 2005

Yeah, show some United States military power.

KidViciou$ · Mar 8, 2005

keep it comin with these good pic series

Czar · Mar 8, 2005

love it, great threads 🙂

sometimes I wish anandtech allowed posting image in the thread

raildogg · Mar 8, 2005

jai6638 · Mar 8, 2005

awesome pics!

MegaWorks · Mar 8, 2005

More more more

Aimster post all of your pics lol!

Genx87 · Mar 8, 2005

Have to admit the SU-27 is a beautiful bird.

Proletariat · Mar 8, 2005

Damn some of that Israeli stuff looks hardcore.

My uncle, who is Indian and in the army, is really excited about the new Israeli/Indian military partnership.

Aimster · Mar 8, 2005

Does Israel make the Merkava? Is it based on any platform?
It looks very nice.

I will upload pictures from:
Pakistan, Iran, Greece, Turkey, South Korea tonight.

-Does anyone have information on the Iraq army before the Gulf War? What kind of air defense systems did they have? S-200?

MegaWorks · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: Aimster
Does Israel make the Merkava? Is it based on any platform?
It looks very nice.

I will upload pictures from:
Pakistan, Iran, Greece, Turkey, South Korea tonight.

-Does anyone have information on the Iraq army before the Gulf War? What kind of air defense systems did they have? S-200?

Yeah Israel does make the Merkava.

Do you have any Iranian pics, I'm going to look for the Iraqi Army before the first golf war.

Edit: My father friend is an Revolutionary guard Air force commander, I would like to know what kind of toys he's playing with.

maddogchen · Mar 8, 2005

Interesting, didn't know India made its own tank.

The Merkava I think is Israel's own design. Based off what they've learned from years of desert tank warfare. I think I saw a pic of one with a compartment in the back for soldiers too. Pretty cool.

WalkingDead · Mar 8, 2005

The US military has more ship, tank and jet in storage than both of those countries combined.

Doctrine wise, we about 20+ year ahead of either one of them.

The India's troop level remain the same for about the last 20 years. The Chinese had just cuted a quartar of a million troops the last few years. Neither India nor China are replacing their military hardware on one-to-one base. They're not growing. In fact both of their militaries are shrinking. We're the true growing military power.

raildogg · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: Aimster
Does Israel make the Merkava? Is it based on any platform?
It looks very nice.

I will upload pictures from:
Pakistan, Iran, Greece, Turkey, South Korea tonight.

-Does anyone have information on the Iraq army before the Gulf War? What kind of air defense systems did they have? S-200?

Israel designed its own main combat tank with its own research. Its designed to fight a war and to fight a city war with terrorists. It is very heavily armored, in fact one of the most armored and well protected tanks in the world. Also has great firepower.

India's main combat tank is slightly different. The Arjun tank is one of the heaviest tanks in the world and one of the roomiest inside. But there are some problems with it, like its weight and its ability to perform in the desert. I believe India is developing another tank called "Tank-Ex".

Before and during the Gulf war Iraq had newer versions of SAMs and Anti air artillery. They had various SA versions and several versions of SAMs.

Aimster · Mar 8, 2005

Well I must say that Israel tank is the best looking tank I've seen produced by a country other than the U.S/Russia.

I like the Pakistan made tank, but I think it is based off a T-90 platform.

Megaworks, I'll post some pictures of Iran up in a few mins.

Proletariat · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: WalkingDead
The US military has more ship, tank and jet in storage than both of those countries combined.

Doctrine wise, we about 20+ year ahead of either one of them.

The India's troop level remain the same for about the last 20 years. The Chinese had just cuted a quartar of a million troops the last few years. Neither India nor China are replacing their military hardware on one-to-one base. They're not growing. In fact both of their militaries are shrinking. We're the true growing military power.

Queue annoying patriot/zealot/idiot.

ECUHITMAN · Mar 8, 2005

It is great to see the reasons why the US spends BILLIONS of dollars on defense each year. With Russia out of the picture, we have to compete with someone, and China has openly said that it wants to have a navy that can rival the US.

Aimster · Mar 8, 2005

Raildogg what tanks are these:
Indian Tanks->
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0430.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0132.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0601.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0482.jpg

maddogchen · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: Aimster
Raildogg what tanks are these:
Indian Tanks->
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0430.jpg

That one looks like similiar to Russian tanks.

raildogg · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: WalkingDead
The US military has more ship, tank and jet in storage than both of those countries combined.

Doctrine wise, we about 20+ year ahead of either one of them.

The India's troop level remain the same for about the last 20 years. The Chinese had just cuted a quartar of a million troops the last few years. Neither India nor China are replacing their military hardware on one-to-one base. They're not growing. In fact both of their militaries are shrinking. We're the true growing military power.

Its not about troop levels anymore. There is a reason why China is cutting troop levels, they have realized that modern warfare is about quick, overwhelming amount of force using specialized units and not massive amount of troops during WW2. With air power and ability to use several types of missles and also with the rise of world naval power, there is little need to have huge standing armies.

China is replacing its ancient hardware with newer ones, but slowly. Remember, China and India combined have a budget many times less than America. Just imagine that. It will take years for them to even catch up. But they are on the rise while we are just trying not to maintain our economy. India is also replacing old military equipment. It's not about using quantity anymore, quality is needed.

During the first Iraq war and this one, Iraq outnumbered us 5 to 1 in tanks. Yet we didn't lose a single tank, why? Because the M1A1 (and M1A2) is one of the best tanks in the world. The non-upgraded version of the T-72 just couldn't stand up to it.

raildogg · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: Aimster
Raildogg what tanks are these:
Indian Tanks->
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0430.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0132.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0601.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0482.jpg

MegaWorks · Mar 8, 2005

Originally posted by: Aimster
Raildogg what tanks are these:
Indian Tanks->
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0430.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0132.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0601.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0482.jpg

T-90 is so sexy! 🙂

WalkingDead · Mar 8, 2005

Armchair generals only talk about who has shinny hardwares. The Pros talk about doctrines and logistic. The Iraqi keep losing wars is not just because they have bad hardwares but bad solders and imcompetent generals.

My point is that both india and china are currently focusing much more of their attentions on their economy than their military.

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