China good, Americans bad!

Deeko

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There is this Chinese kid in my Humanities class, speaks very poor English, you can tell he immigrated here. Anyway, today we were discussing a story about a guy who keeps burning down the barns of people he works for. His 10 year old son eventually told one of the owners, while his father was in the process of burning it down. The owner goes and shoots the guy.

The kid in my class says "That man is stupid, human life is more precious than objects. You Americans always want to shoot everyone."
My professor decides to debate him, asking him what he would do if someone was trying to burn down his house. The kid says he would not use a gun. The prof said "ok, hypothetically, you have only 2 choices. Shoot the man trying to burn down your house that you worked 30 years to pay for, and save it, or let him burn it. You have no insurance." The kid wouldn't give an answer, kept saying he would shoot a warning shot or try to shoot him in the leg.

It went on for about 15 minutes. The kid kept saying that Americans are horrible because guns are so commonplace, we think its ok to shoot people trying to rob us...apparently its ok to defend yourself, but not with a gun? Assault with a deadly weapon is the same regardless of what that weapon is. He also went as far as to say he WOULDN'T shoot someone with a gun to his own mother's head, and that it would NOT have been ok to shoot Hitler, knowing what he would go on to accomplish.

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.
 

phatj

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i despise foreigners with that mindframe - as well as americans. (with that mindframe)
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Heaven forbid someone should come to this land carrying different opinions/philosophies.

You can have different opinions.

Its another thing to insult an ENTIRE COUNTRY of people, a country that HE IS A PART OF. He isn't just going to school here, his family moved here in high school. HE is an AMERICAN. He is insulting himself, essentially.
 

Looney

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Um, the guy wouldn't be defending himself, he would be defending his barn. And why can't he shoot in the air for a warning or in the leg? Why does he need to kill somebody?

 

melly

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Heaven forbid someone should come to this land carrying different opinions/philosophies.

You can have different opinions.

Its another thing to insult an ENTIRE COUNTRY of people, a country that HE IS A PART OF. He isn't just going to school here, his family moved here in high school. HE is an AMERICAN. He is insulting himself, essentially.

if he goes back to china, he's gonna get sars.


(joking, people, lighten up!)
 

bolido2000

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Many Chinese don't think China has comitted so many violations of human right violations with all the media control in China. I've met many who think the tiananmen massacre wasn't such, but something exaggerated by western media
 

Ynog

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Now lets see here what happened in Tiananmen Square? Oh ya must have been some poor warning shots.
 

joe678

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Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

tell him to take his SARS with him...
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phatj

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Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Heaven forbid someone should come to this land carrying different opinions/philosophies.



Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.


And Deeko's opinion is that the kid should go back to China.
 

imported_Tomato

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Heaven forbid someone should come to this land carrying different opinions/philosophies.

You can have different opinions.

Its another thing to insult an ENTIRE COUNTRY of people, a country that HE IS A PART OF. He isn't just going to school here, his family moved here in high school. HE is an AMERICAN. He is insulting himself, essentially.

In your original post, you said he immigrated here. Being physically located in the United States of America does not make you American.

If you're from Germany and you immigrate here as a teen, you may still identify as German.

If you're from Spain and you immigrate here, you may still identify as Spanish.

And so on and so forth.
 

phatj

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Originally posted by: caramel
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: Deeko

Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Heaven forbid someone should come to this land carrying different opinions/philosophies.

You can have different opinions.

Its another thing to insult an ENTIRE COUNTRY of people, a country that HE IS A PART OF. He isn't just going to school here, his family moved here in high school. HE is an AMERICAN. He is insulting himself, essentially.

if he goes back to china, he's gonna get sars.


(joking, people, lighten up!)



lololol. Deeko you better head to the doctor.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Um, the guy wouldn't be defending himself, he would be defending his barn. And why can't he shoot in the air for a warning or in the leg? Why does he need to kill somebody?

That was the guy in the story. Not the hypothetical situations the professor gave him. Its not ok to shoot someone who is trying to shoot you. Its not ok to shoot someone trying to kill someone close to you. You may defend yourself with another weapon, such as a knife.

Does that make sense to you? You can kill someone with a knife, but not a gun? And Americans are horrible because of this?
 

bolinger

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Typical American response for anyone disagreeing with the majority on a number of issues. Protesting the war? Move out! Don't like the economy? Move out! Don't think our government it perfect? Move out! Don't think every country and every person in the world wants to secretly be American? Move out!
 

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Originally posted by: Deeko

"That man is stupid, human life is more precious than objects."

Lol, why don't he go convince the Chinese government of that?
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: bolinger
Originally posted by: Deeko
Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Typical American response for anyone disagreeing with the majority on a number of issues. Protesting the war? Move out! Don't like the economy? Move out! Don't think our government it perfect? Move out! Don't think every country and every person in the world wants to secretly be American? Move out!

Well, if you hate it here and hate Americans, why would you stay?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Um, the guy wouldn't be defending himself, he would be defending his barn. And why can't he shoot in the air for a warning or in the leg? Why does he need to kill somebody?

That was the guy in the story. Not the hypothetical situations the professor gave him. Its not ok to shoot someone who is trying to shoot you. Its not ok to shoot someone trying to kill someone close to you. You may defend yourself with another weapon, such as a knife.

Does that make sense to you? You can kill someone with a knife, but not a gun? And Americans are horrible because of this?

No, that doesn't make sense at all then.

I'm all for gun ownership... and in that first story, i probably would have shot the guy burning the barn knowing my anger, but that doesn't mean i would be in the right.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: bolinger
Originally posted by: Deeko
Kid, go back to China if we are so terrible here.

Typical American response for anyone disagreeing with the majority on a number of issues. Protesting the war? Move out! Don't like the economy? Move out! Don't think our government it perfect? Move out! Don't think every country and every person in the world wants to secretly be American? Move out!

Well, if you hate it here and hate Americans, why would you stay?

Probably because the positives outweight the negatives... and maybe they're hoping to make it a better place. Just because they have a different opinion, doesn't mean they should move out.
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