China executes two internet users!

Chadder007

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Amnesty International: China Executes Two Internet Users.

By Mike Magee

Human Rights Organizations Amnesty International issued a warning today on its Web site that Internet users in mainland China could be killed by the State for expressing their opinion online.

Thirty three people were named as "prisoners of conscience" today, for apparently doing little more than expressing their opinions online.

Two "subversives" have already died in custody, it claimed.

And the statement, which it released today, also warns that overseas companies were colluding in a crack down we first reported last August.

One paragraph states: "Foreign companies, including Websense and Sun Microsystems, Cisco Systems, Nortel Networks, Microsoft have reportedly provided important technology which helps the Chinese authorities censor the Internet. Nortel Networks along with some other international firms are reported to be providing China with the technology which will help it shift from filtering content at the international gateway level to filtering content of individual computers, in homes, Internet cafes, universities and businesses."

The report asked China ? avowedly a police state ? to release anyone detained or jailed for using the Internet to express their views or to share information.

American companies are helping China track down people that the government wants to detain for "online subversion".

It has designated 33 people detained for using the Internet as "prisoners of conscience".

Two people have already died in custody, the report said. AI says that anyone surfing the Internet in China could be at risk of "arbitrary detention and imprisonment".

There are around 60 million Internet users in mainland China, with the numbers rising steadily.

More about it here....

EDIT: Here is possibly how they died "The execution explanation
Two of those detained for Internet-related offences have died in custody, apparently as a result of torture or ill-treatment at the hands of the police. Both are members of the Falun Gong spiritual movement, which was banned as a "heretical organization" in July 1999.
 

Jzero

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Misleading title? I don't read "died in custody" the same way as "executed."

In fact, I'm not sure which is worse since "died in custody" implies that they must have been mistreated if not flat-out tortured, where execution implies that they were killed intentionally in response to their "crimes."

Hmmmm
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Misleading title? I don't read "died in custody" the same way as "executed."

In fact, I'm not sure which is worse since "died in custody" implies that they must have been mistreated if not flat-out tortured, where execution implies that they were killed intentionally in response to their "crimes."

Hmmmm

Here ya go...
" Those violating the laws and regulations which aim to restrict free expression of opinion and circulation of information through the Internet may face imprisonment and according to recent regulations some could even be sentenced to death."
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: Jzero
Misleading title? I don't read "died in custody" the same way as "executed."

In fact, I'm not sure which is worse since "died in custody" implies that they must have been mistreated if not flat-out tortured, where execution implies that they were killed intentionally in response to their "crimes."

Hmmmm

Here ya go...
" Those violating the laws and regulations which aim to restrict free expression of opinion and circulation of information through the Internet may face imprisonment and according to recent regulations some could even be sentenced to death."

From here:
Two of those detained for Internet-related offences have died in custody, apparently as a result of torture or ill-treatment at the hands of the police. Both are members of the Falun Gong spiritual movement, which was banned as a "heretical organization" in July 1999.

They face execution, sure, but first they get tried in kangaroo court. These 2 weren't executed, they were killed in custody.
Although as I said before, I'm not sure which is worse. I just read this earlier and was surprised to read that apparently they were executed when I had originally believed otherwise, and when in reality they were not.
 

McPhreak

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I don't know whats so shocking about this. China's a communist country. Speak out against the Chinese government and you get imprisoned. Doesn't matter if it's online or in the streets. Simple as that.
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: McPhreak
I don't know whats so shocking about this. China's a communist country. Speak out against the Chinese government and you get imprisoned. Doesn't matter if it's online or in the streets. Simple as that.
In a sense China is not a communist country, but it is a police state & dictatorship.

 

CubicZirconia

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In a sense China is not a communist country, but it is a police state & dictatorship.

Technically China isn't communist, but then technically no governments are truly communist.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: redly1
Note to self....cancel plans to go to LAN party in China

you better make damn sure you gotta go there for good reason... LAN party is really pushing it... I might even risk and go... :Q
 

StageLeft

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VERY freaking iffy blaming that on American companies. I'm sure that the US companies never agreed to "provide china with the means to track internet users so that China can then kill them". I mean come on
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Still, this is another reason why China SUCKS ASS. What a sh*ty gov't. I feel bad for the one billion people who have to put up with that garbage.
 

gopunk

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i think falun gong had much more to do with it than the internet. falun gong is some crackpot cult anyways, don't believe what the hippies here tell you.
 

Mday

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Originally posted by: gopunk
i think falun gong had much more to do with it than the internet. falun gong is some crackpot cult anyways, don't believe what the hippies here tell you.

falun gong is not a cult. it's not a religion. it's not really even a belief. it's a group of old ppl who have been pretty much disowned by a communist country... china no longer gives a job to everyone, so, these ppl are unemployed, and need something to do...