China establishes 'air-defence zone' over East China Sea

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Dari

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China is escalating tension in the region yet again. Confrontations like this can only end one way and one way only.

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China establishes 'air-defence zone' over East China Sea
China has demarcated an "air-defence identification zone" over an area of the East China Sea, covering islands that are also claimed by Japan.
China's Defence Ministry said aircraft entering the zone must obey its rules or face "emergency defensive measures".
The islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, are a source of rising tension between the countries.
Japan lodged a strong protest over what it said was an "escalation".
"Setting up such airspace unilaterally escalates the situations surrounding Senkaku islands and has danger of leading to an unexpected situation," Japan's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
Taiwan, which also claims the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands, expressed regret at the move and promised that the military would take measure to protect national security.
'No specific target'
In its statement, the Chinese Defence Ministry said aircraft must report a flight plan, "maintain two-way radio communications", and "respond in a timely and accurate manner" to identification inquiries.
"China's armed forces will adopt defensive emergency measures to respond to aircraft that do not co-operate in the identification or refuse to follow the instructions," said the statement.
It said the zone came into effect from 10:00 local time (02:00GMT) on Saturday.
State news agency Xinhua showed a map on its website covering a wide area of the East China Sea, including regions very close to South Korea and Japan.
Responding to questions about the zone on an official state website, a defence ministry spokesman, Yang Yujun, said China set up the area "with the aim of safeguarding state sovereignty, territorial land and air security, and maintaining flight order".
"It is not directed against any specific country or target," he said, adding that China "has always respected the freedom of over-flight in accordance with international law".
"Normal flights by international airliners in the East China Sea Air Defence Identification Zone will not be affected in any way."
The islands have been a source of tension between China and Japan for decades.
In 2012, the Japanese government bought three of the islands from their Japanese owner, sparking mass protests in Chinese cities.
Since then, Chinese ships have repeatedly sailed in and out of what Japan says are its territorial waters.
In September this year, Japan said it would shoot down unmanned aircraft in Japanese airspace after an unmanned Chinese drone flew close to the disputed islands.
China said that any attempt by Japan to shoot down Chinese aircraft would constitute "an act of war".
Last month Japan's defence minister, Itsunori Onodera, said China's behaviour over the disputed East China Sea islands was jeopardising peace.
BBC World Service East Asia editor Charles Scanlon says the confrontation over the small chain of uninhabited islands is made more intractable by conflicting claims for potentially rich energy resources on the sea bed.
But the issue has now become a nationalist touchstone in both countries, making it hard for either side to be seen to back down, he says.
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I am not so sure because they've already sunk a Veitnamese trawler over territorial disputes.
 
Binarycow

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Anyone who knows about SE Asia would know the basic fact that the Chinese are about trust-worthy to their neighboring countries as a hungry fox in a chicken coop. They are first-class hypocrites.
 
OverVolt

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Doesn't help that Japan is now a country of indebted 85 year old pensioners with a ton of nuclear plants shut down :p

Its almost like China can sense the weakness and is bullying Japan. Hmm.
 
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Dari

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OverVolt said:
Doesn't help that Japan is now a country of indebted 85 year old pensioners with a ton of nuclear plants shut down :p

Its almost like China can sense the weakness and is bullying Japan. Hmm.
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Indebted to themselves. But, it'd be interesting for China to test that theory. They'd learn a hard lesson.
 
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tweaker2

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The USA has close ties with Japan, and in this case, the military umbilical they share comes into play.

As far as I can recall, the USA has remained in the background on this issue due to the sensitive nature of this three way relationship.

In my mind, all China has to do is demand that Japan relinquish all claims on most of those islands as war reparations and fight part of the battle at the UN where China has a better chance of seeking redress in this regard.
 
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If commie china and chinese think they are so bad ass and tough, come and take on Russia and take back all the vast land that Russia took from them since 1850s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aigun
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They take most of there tech from russia. It's like a ally to them as they to are communist. There aircraft engines are also supplied by them.

China knows that Russia cannot be defeated by them. And so, it is waiting for the time when the equation would change. But, that won't happen anytime soon as russia is also a deterrent for capitalist countries like USA and there NATO alliance against a severe military action, against china which is a bigger concern for them.
 
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redhotiron2004 said:
They take most of there tech from russia. It's like a ally to them as they to are communist. There aircraft engines are also supplied by them.

China knows that Russia cannot be defeated by them. And so, it is waiting for the time when the equation would change. But, that won't happen anytime soon as russia is also a deterrent for capitalist countries like USA and there NATO alliance against a severe military action, against china which is a bigger concern for them.
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And yet commie china and brainwashed chinese are acting like they are bad asses and such. With their proven history versus competent military forces, I would not brag.

Much easier to push around much smaller neighbors with ridiculous statements of "historic evidences" or "undisputable territories" to claim the whole sea/ocean. Just like a skinny nerd with a class of kung fu and then tried to take on the 10 years old kids in the neighborhood but would not dare to take on the true big bad ass bully that has been raping his female relatives and looting his family for years.

Ally? Let see = http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...vy-accused-of-sinking-Chinese-cargo-ship.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/18/world/asia/russia-china-fishing-vessel/index.html

Commie china and chinese would not dare to say anything about that. Not even in china newspapers or anywhere on the net (weibo). No statement of "that was an act of war" or "we will show them the ring of fire" and other usual big talk bullsh1t. In Asia, people called that "pull a china" (all hot air and talk and no action or run away with tail between legs). :D
 
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Dari said:
Wtf else would sink it, the Mongolians? Africans?
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Storm? Stupidity? The Philippines? The US Navy covering up a meeting with aliens in the middle of the ocean?

Dari where are you from you seem to have a very specific regional take on this subject.
 
davmat787

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Dari said:
Wtf else would sink it, the Mongolians? Africans?
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Seriously? Do you think the only way a ship is lost at sea is from military action? Have you heard of the Titanic? Rogue waves? Poor maintenance? Poor seamanship? The Dragons triangle? The list is near endless.
 
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