China develops 64-bit workstation CPU

[ToeJam13]

According to an article in China?s ?People?s Daily? newspaper, Chinese engineers at BLX IC Design Corporation have successfully released a 64-bit ?Pentium-III class? microprocessor for use in workstations and embedded systems.

The CPU is named ?Godson-II?. It is a custom RISC processor compatible with the MIPS instruction set. It offers both 64-bit integer and floating-point decoders with speeds between 300 to 500 MHz. It works with Linux/MIPS, NetBSD/MIPS, VxWorks and WinCE/MIPS operating systems.

What makes the processor so unique is that it consumes only 5W (1.8V core, 3.3V I/O) using a 0.18-micron process.

The processor is not compatible with IA32 (x86), iAMD64 or IA64 instruction sets. It is a MIPS only beast. Several news sites have been reporting that its Pentium compatible, most likely they made the assumption after hearing ?Pentium-class?.

More information about the processor can be found at EETimes and Techimo.

Luckily without Windows 2000 or XP support, you will not be finding this processor down at your nearest Wal-Mart. Perhaps it was a good thing that MIPS support was dropped after Windows NT-SP2.

 

[dannybin1742]

i wonder how many patents they infringed making it............. china has no respect for patent law, this is extremely evident in biotech research, i highly doubt that its any different for any other field

 

[Insomniak]

Thread description is funny because it makes fun of the Chinese.

 

[Zebo]

They taking over that too eh? All tools, electrontrics, clothes, etc etc etc. what do we got left anymore? Pharmacuticals, little auto, boeing and intel. Whens that going to move to red china?

Were gonna be dirt farmers in 20 years the way things are moving.

 

[ToeJam13]

Other countries have been making processors for some time and have not caught up. Many have speculated that Japan or Taiwan would have grabbed the crown from the US in microprocessor design. This has not yet happened.

Although it could be speculated that overall more chips are designed in those countries than in the US, many of those chips are less sophisticated than high-end processors designed in North America. Furthermore, many high-end chips that are produced in Japan and Taiwan are licensed clones. For example, Hitachi made 68000 clones, NEC made MIPS clones, Fujitsu made Sparc clones and everyone made 8086 clones.

Regardless, two of the largest in-house chipset designers in Asia today would have to be Taiwan's VIA and Japan?s Sony. VIA makes numerous computer logic chipsets and continues to design x86 compatible chips under the Cyrix brand. Sony makes large numbers of DSP chips for audio/video equipment, as well as being a co-developer of the Cell processor.

While the high-end remains an American dominated field, it?s the middle and low-end markets that are slowly being gobbled up by China. It is getting expensive to manufacture goods in the US and Japan. Even Canada, Mexico, Taiwan and Korea are getting expensive. China can undercut them all, and it has a powerful US partner to help bring those goods to our markets?

On that subject, you may want to watch an episode of PBS?s Frontline that talks about how Wal-Mart is setting prices for manufacturers. It?s said that China can sell goods at a profit for less than the manufactured price in the States.

If China could develop its own x86 processor, the low end PC field might be dominated by them. However, why build x86 machines to run Windows when you can build MIPS machines and run Linux? You have to pay an American company to run Windows. Linux is free.

 

[Zebo]

You might want to read this than guessing (hoping?) Real high end too.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050217-4623.html

I work in the defense industry and even with security issues there jobs and contracts are being farmed out to potential enemies who steal anything, especially IP, that's not nailed down (Read China). The politicans and CEO's don't care, it's all about the quick buck, if you need anymore proof just look at natl debt how they sold us out.

Believe me you only need a very small R&D staff here. All the boeing , intel, Pharma, auto can and will move the red china. They make $1.50 a day. We make $30 and hour. Once the know how crosses Pacific it's lost forever. Then they start thier own R&D. Look at Sony vs. RCA who was king at one time.

 

[Hyperlite]

Interesting...
I see your point Zebo, its a tough situation...btw Zebo, ever heard of a Chatsworth, Ca. Company called Natel Engineering?

 

[Zebo]

Ya heard of them but not familiar w/ them. Is'nt Litton (NG) up there too? All of LA just runs together in my mind with no demarcation points. I Grow up in Costa Mesa same city as Chatsworth I'm sure.

 

[Sentinel]

Luckily without Windows 2000 or XP support, you will not be finding this processor down at your nearest Wal-Mart. Perhaps it was a good thing that MIPS support was dropped after Windows NT-SP2.

so true...

 

[DrMrLordX]

I wouldn't worry about it. China is destroying itself from the inside. I would NOT want to be living there right now. They pollute so heavily that it is a becoming a serious health risk to their own citizens. Remember that their cheap labor and lax environmental laws are what allow them to crank out so many goods for such a low price. If they continue to pollute, their workforce will eventually begin to fail from sickness. If they attempt to reduce pollution, the price of manufacturing goods will increase.

Throw in some fully-automated factories in post-industrial nations like Japan or the US that employ exactly 0 workers, and China may be SOL.

Furthermore, a 300-500 mhz MIPS is nothing truly special. It took them this long to best that 200 mhz Dragon processor of their? Bleh. VIA's CPUs are more impressive, and they ain't much.

 

[chinkgai]

i wonder how many people will find it offensive if the title read this instead:


"Africa develops 64-bit workstation CPU
Topic Summary: "Pentium-III class performance", great with "Kentucky Fried Chicken"


im not offended, but im just wondering...

 

[1stoff]

Originally posted by: chinkgai
i wonder how many people will find it offensive if the title read this instead:


"Africa develops 64-bit workstation CPU
Topic Summary: "Pentium-III class performance", great with "Kentucky Fried Chicken"


im not offended, but im just wondering...

we all know that will not happen for a very long time (Africa), China gets flak/ridicule for the simple fact that it is true they STEAL everything that is'nt nailed down pertaining to high tech IT

re: not offended - then why bring it up

 

[chinkgai]

Originally posted by: 1stoff

we all know that will not happen for a very long time (Africa), China gets flak/ridicule for the simple fact that it is true they STEAL everything that is'nt nailed down pertaining to high tech IT

re: not offended - then why bring it up

if you read after the comma part, it says im wondering k thx

 

[ToeJam13]

Originally posted by: chinkgai
i wonder how many people will find it offensive if the title read this instead:

"Africa develops 64-bit workstation CPU
Topic Summary: "Pentium-III class performance", great with "Kentucky Fried Chicken"

im not offended, but im just wondering...

South Africa used to be very technologically advanced in the 1970s and 1980s. Had politics not gone the way they had, I could easily have seen some home grown processors come out of that country.

Of course now its going the way of the rest of the continent... moving back 2000 years of progress.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: 1stoff

Originally posted by: chinkgai
i wonder how many people will find it offensive if the title read this instead:


"Africa develops 64-bit workstation CPU
Topic Summary: "Pentium-III class performance", great with "Kentucky Fried Chicken"


im not offended, but im just wondering...

we all know that will not happen for a very long time (Africa), China gets flak/ridicule for the simple fact that it is true they STEAL everything that is'nt nailed down pertaining to high tech IT

re: not offended - then why bring it up

Why do people always see that as a bad thing? That's how you start when you're not established yet. Copy the established company. That's how all companies start, china or not. You will never find a company that just starts from nothing and starts competiting with intel or the sort. They all start from copying established technology.
Even intel and amd copies each other all the time. Heck they even have that patent sharing agreement.
I'd say this CPU is a good first step for China. It's definitely an achievement for them, and a jump into the hi-tech industry. They aren't quite there yet, but it's a good step in the transition from manufacturing to high tech.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
I wouldn't worry about it. China is destroying itself from the inside. I would NOT want to be living there right now. They pollute so heavily that it is a becoming a serious health risk to their own citizens. Remember that their cheap labor and lax environmental laws are what allow them to crank out so many goods for such a low price. If they continue to pollute, their workforce will eventually begin to fail from sickness. If they attempt to reduce pollution, the price of manufacturing goods will increase.

Throw in some fully-automated factories in post-industrial nations like Japan or the US that employ exactly 0 workers, and China may be SOL.

Furthermore, a 300-500 mhz MIPS is nothing truly special. It took them this long to best that 200 mhz Dragon processor of their? Bleh. VIA's CPUs are more impressive, and they ain't much.

And in proportion we pollute FAR more.. what's your point?
Automated factories in japan and US still cost a lot more for simple items than manual labor in China. Heck even cars, the primary industry US manufactures, is cheaper with manual labor in China. Only reason why they do it in the US is because shipping/tariffs are so costly that it makes it cheaper to do it domestically.

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
i wonder how many patents they infringed making it............. china has no respect for patent law, this is extremely evident in biotech research, i highly doubt that its any different for any other field

It's not like patent law as-is has any respect of "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" anyway...

Not that what the Chinese do is just. It's just that patent law needs to be reworked to take into account certain flaws in the system that are being exposed, and therefore those enforcing it don't have the cleanest of hands.

 

[RobCur]

I think they are just wasting their time. How about try to make something faster, consume less power, and cost less to manufacture?

 

[Red and black]

Copying information is not stealing. The original person who had the information still has it. Call it "illegal copying" if you like, but what meaning does that phrase have across country borders? You'd have to start talking about the Berne Convention and what not.

I advocate copying information, so as to avoid duplicated effort.

 

[Duvie]

China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

 

[Snowice]

Originally posted by: Duvie
China is a master at backwards engineering.....I am not impressed cause most of the ideas they used are likely stolen...as mentioned above they respect no international patents and counterfeit everything...A country of thieves basically...a billion thieves....

AMD64 (939) 3000+@2.64ghz 8x330fsb (1.54v)
Venus 12 TT w/ 80mm adjustable fan (Made in China)
MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum (Made in China)
OCZ 600 Powerstream (Made in China)
(2x512) GSkill @ pc4400 (550ddr)
BFG 6800 OC (385/900) @ Quadro FX4000 (Made in China)
2x36.7GB Raptor HDD ***soon to be in Raid 0***
80GB Seagate SATA HDD
Liteon 16x DVD-rom (Made in China)
NEC-3500 DL DVD writer (Made in China)

WOW, THOSE ARE ALL MADE BY THIEVES!!!

 

[Duvie]

Dont get taiwan mixed up with China....I respect Taiwan's rights to be independent from the commies....China may not see it but Taiwan is the real brains fo the operation and has been for sometime....

Please link all verifications that those products are in fact made in China...I dont care if it is fabbed there but where would it have been "designed".

Wow....though other then the BFG (which the great american tech support I paid for) it is all crap!!!!

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Throw in some fully-automated factories in post-industrial nations like Japan or the US that employ exactly 0 workers, and China may be SOL.

Forget that idea, labour is so cheap in China that it costs less than to upkeep those automated machines.

And how exactly does a US based plant that employs zero workers help the economy? Oh yeah, because companies just love to 'give back to the community.' Witness the wonders the auto industry has done for cities like Detroit.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
I wouldn't worry about it. China is destroying itself from the inside. I would NOT want to be living there right now. They pollute so heavily that it is a becoming a serious health risk to their own citizens. Remember that their cheap labor and lax environmental laws are what allow them to crank out so many goods for such a low price. If they continue to pollute, their workforce will eventually begin to fail from sickness. If they attempt to reduce pollution, the price of manufacturing goods will increase.

Throw in some fully-automated factories in post-industrial nations like Japan or the US that employ exactly 0 workers, and China may be SOL.

Furthermore, a 300-500 mhz MIPS is nothing truly special. It took them this long to best that 200 mhz Dragon processor of their? Bleh. VIA's CPUs are more impressive, and they ain't much.

And in proportion we pollute FAR more.. what's your point?
Automated factories in japan and US still cost a lot more for simple items than manual labor in China. Heck even cars, the primary industry US manufactures, is cheaper with manual labor in China. Only reason why they do it in the US is because shipping/tariffs are so costly that it makes it cheaper to do it domestically.

Thank you, what a bunch of freaking haters. Do you hate it just because its CHina doing it? I cant wait for China to start Kicking ass! Go China go!

 

[NokiaDude]

D@mm those chinese sons of a b!tches!