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Zebo

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: dmens
What's the big deal? During the 80's, the media was horrified at Japan's imminent takeover of the American economy. The same idiots now say China will take over.

Perhaps those geniuses can explain to me how China plans on sustaining its previous rate of economic development. I say previous because its already starting to taper off in the past couple years.

Excuse me for pointing out your ignorance, but one of their bigger problems lately has been that their economy is growing too fast, not too slow.

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taper off?

a walmart woker in usa lives better than an engineer in China. That's all the really matters...standard of living. to be squeezed into a 400 ft^2 condo, and slave 60 hours a week in a smog infested crowded concrete jungle...or be able to stop and smell roses, even on minimum wage as in usa.
 

dmens

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Originally posted by: Zebo
No it's switzerland trust me. Problem is they keep the riff-raff like me out by requireing 2M in the bank to immigrate or I'd move there a long time ago... Now I got to much crap here so I'm not as liquid but if I had to choose from birth it would be CZ.

Yeah, Switzerland is nice. But I prefer the diversity of American life.
 

Gatecrasher3

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Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: dmens
The first post was hasty. A better question would be: how can China tone down to a healthy rate of economic development without a backlash.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_economy/395986.stm

Even with the slowdown, China's is still a bubble economy.

A healthy rate (~8%/a, which is what Japen sustained for decades) is above the point where Chinese authorities think there could be "social unrest", that poitn being ~7%.

As I said before, China has many problems just like all other countries. But their boom is neither new nor orignal, they are merely following in the footsteps of others.

Tell me, where do you guys (you and Zebo) see China in 50 years?
 
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Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way

Canada doesn't suck, but there is a significant mental illness that is very prevalent within a large portion of its population.
 
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Originally posted by: Infohawk
I think I speak for all conservatives when I say, "why do you hate America?" The US will ALWAYS be the greatest country on Earth.

With the way the Conservatives are behaving this week? I highly doubt it if this mockery of everything America was founded upon continues.

Jason
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way

He's partially right. Canada is...meh. A poorly organized way of life, wrong attitudes towards many things. But its bearable....could be a lot worse...like south of the border.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way

He's partially right. Canada is...meh. A poorly organized way of life, wrong attitudes towards many things. But its bearable....could be a lot worse...like south of the border.

Worse? How is America any worse off than Canada?

We have a higher per capita GDP and your country's main trading partner by far is America. We buy a lot of your products and without us, Canada would go kaput.

Wrong attitudes? Such as?

Oh and the defense of your country is provided by America. Tax the citizens up to their necks. Way to go.
 

Gatecrasher3

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there is a mental illness problem with every advanced country in the world.
speaking of China, statically, Chinese woman are the unhappiest people on earth. and by 2030 mental illness will be the #1 leading disease on earth.
enjoy!
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way

He's partially right. Canada is...meh. A poorly organized way of life, wrong attitudes towards many things. But its bearable....could be a lot worse...like south of the border.

Worse? How is America any worse off than Canada?

We have a higher per capita GDP and your country's main trading partner by far is America. We buy a lot of your products and without us, Canada would go kaput.

Wrong attitudes? Such as?

Oh and the defense of your country is provided by America. Tax the citizens up to their necks. Way to go.

I'm thinking he is talking about Mexico. ;)

I think...:confused:
 

smc13

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Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Yahoo news link


If things keep going the way they are going, maybe one day we will become the sweat shop workers?
Its never ceases to amazing me how everything makes a full circle, and the time of us gorging ourselves on the minds, spirits and souls of others is coming to an end.


WOOOO 100 posts!!


Um, you do realize that the phrase "full circle" means that things end up the same as they started. Aren't you talking about going 180 degrees?
 

Chinadefender

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Is it slightly funny when you know that many famous Chinese scholars worried about excessive technology importation and unbalanced growing structure.

By the way, an interesting thing is that China is actually the main financial supporter of US in Irap actions although the Chinese media would seldom said good about US' way in Iraq.

Two years have passed.....;)
 

Gatecrasher3

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Originally posted by: smc13
Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Yahoo news link


If things keep going the way they are going, maybe one day we will become the sweat shop workers?
Its never ceases to amazing me how everything makes a full circle, and the time of us gorging ourselves on the minds, spirits and souls of others is coming to an end.


WOOOO 100 posts!!


Um, you do realize that the phrase "full circle" means that things end up the same as they started. Aren't you talking about going 180 degrees?


yaa your right man
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: raildogg

Worse? How is America any worse off than Canada?

We have a higher per capita GDP and your country's main trading partner by far is America. We buy a lot of your products and without us, Canada would go kaput.

Wrong attitudes? Such as?

Oh and the defense of your country is provided by America. Tax the citizens up to their necks. Way to go.

The generic "Canada's defense is provided by America" line. I disagree that America is worse off than Canada with you, but come on!
 

OS

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China is overrated as the next economic superpower. Their banking/financial system is broken as f*ck. Their real estate market is a big ass bubble run by rampant speculation. China will suffer a major economic collapse long before they have any real chance of beating the US economically.

read up
read up some more

One of the worst parts of the situation is that the savings rate of the chinese is extremely high, something like 25%, but the money all goes into a corrupt and broken ass banking system which is a diaster waiting to happen.
 
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Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
there is a mental illness problem with every advanced country in the world.
speaking of China, statically, Chinese woman are the unhappiest people on earth. and by 2030 mental illness will be the #1 leading disease on earth.
enjoy!

Canada's mental illness is far beyond anything that any other country experiences.
 

Gatecrasher3

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really? i did not know this....
well nothing brings out the protesting, idealistic, freedom fighting youth in me like the topic of me like mental illness, or also known as the soul hole

I think Canada is getting bad because when someone immigrates into a new country and give up their culture and history and adapt to their new countries way of life, their rate of depression sky rockets. And because Canada is made up of a large portion of immigrants, this problem is happening today.
 

Martin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3
Originally posted by: dmens
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Methinks you should travel more often...

HAHAHA. I've travelled far more than every US-hating leftist that tells real Americans to "go experience other cultures and perspectives".

By the way, I'm a Canadian citizen, born in Toronto. Also, Canada sucks.


Canada sucks? why is that? im not mad or anything i just want to know why you feel that way

He's partially right. Canada is...meh. A poorly organized way of life, wrong attitudes towards many things. But its bearable....could be a lot worse...like south of the border.

Worse? How is America any worse off than Canada?

We have a higher per capita GDP and your country's main trading partner by far is America. We buy a lot of your products and without us, Canada would go kaput.

Wrong attitudes? Such as?

Oh and the defense of your country is provided by America. Tax the citizens up to their necks. Way to go.

Do you even know what I'm talking about? Because with trade, defence and taxes, you seem to be on some completely different wavelength.
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: mhillary
China is making it big, but it will always stay behing America.

"Always" is a word not to be used when writing about history and international relations.
China will for sure be the next ruling superpower. It hardly is a surprising piece of news. Paul Kennedy wrote about this in his 1989 book "Rise and Fall of the Great Powers". every superpower in history reached a zenith and then began a slow or sudden decline. Nothing last forever. Of course people living in the Roman Empire age thought it would have last forever. But of course it did not. Same happened during Alexander the Great time, or during Napoleon's France or Queen Elisabeth UK, or the huge Spanish Empire. Eventually every ruling power faces its phisiological decline and leave to another country the role of ruling power.
 
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"China is going to take over the world...the US is doomed...blah, blah, blah.'

Do the morons repeating that mantra have any inkling whatsoever how much the US has invested in China and the current economic upswing there? People in the US are making money hand over fist because of this. The only idiots in the US are those not jumping on that particular train. China's emergence as an economic power will only benefit the US and make it even stronger economically, not eradicate it. Look what it's done for our steel and concrete industries, just to name a couple.