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Cobalt

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Originally posted by: Gravity
Originally posted by: db
A successful marriage is all about how you DEAL WITH YOUR DIFFERANCES.

Well said. 50% or so can't get it right. Your suggestion?

May I ask how old you were when you got married?
 

digitalsm

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2/3 of children of divorce that marry choose to never have children. That would be the plan but not likely to happen.

Children of divorce marry much later, if at all, well into their 30's or 40's. Thats the plan, I wanted to be established and well into a career before getting married

When a divorce occurs, children cease to experience life as a child. I've raised myself since I was 12

Children of divorce will likely not have their college paid for. Working two jobs and going to school

Children of divorce are at substantiallyhigher risk for drug use, suicide and pre-marital sex. Nope, nope, not enough

Children of divorce associate being happy with impending doom so they work to not appear to be happy. Not really

Children that grow up in intact but seriously dysfunctional families are better off than children of divorce, including families with violent parents. My family is seriously dysfunctional, my parents marriage was violent on both ends, and the divorce was probavly agood thing, it would have been far worse IMHO.



 

FeuerFrei

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Originally posted by: mrrman
Originally posted by: db
Marriage is all about how you DEAL WITH YOUR DIFFERANCES.

I think its the other way around...Divorce is how you deal with your differences...I know I am one of the stats...60% + of marriages fail

Marriage is all about compromise.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
My parents divorced when I was two years old. I don't do drugs, my college tuition is paid for by myself as well as federal aid. In the past, my father did help pay for my tuition.

What that was saying was, children of divorce as less likely to have their college tuition paid for by their parents.
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: Gravity
I read this book because I work with at risk children but also because I'm in a failing marriage. Marriages all around me are being destoyed, mine may be next.

So, after reading this book I wanted to report the following:

2/3 of children of divorce that marry choose to never have children.
Children of divorce marry much later, if at all, well into their 30's or 40's.
When a divorce occurs, children cease to experience life as a child.
Children of divorce will likely not have their college paid for.
Children of divorce are at substantiallyhigher risk for drug use, suicide and pre-marital sex.
Children of divorce associate being happy with impending doom so they work to not appear to be happy.
Children that grow up in intact but seriously dysfunctional families are better off than children of divorce, including families with violent parents.

Here's the BOOK I read on the subject. It's very sobering.

Just thought I'd lighten up your Friday/Saturday.

Discuss


other than the drugs part, is there anything wrong with any of this?
 

JulesMaximus

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I think a more appropriate conclusion would be that most people make bad decisions at some point or many times during their lives. Their offspring are pretty much along for the ride...what the fvck are you gonna do...Stay in a bad marriage because of useless statistics? Or divorce and move on with your life. Which is better for the children? I'd like to see a study on this.
 

RU482

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I tell you what, it really messes my kids up when my wife or I have to leave for more then a couple days. I can't imagine if I had to tell them "mommy doesn't live here anymore"
 

tk149

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Interesting responses in this thread. For those of you with real-life divorce experience, thank you for sharing.

I wonder if the actual divorce is the main trauma, or whether it's growing up in a one-parent household that causes those statistics. It'd be interesting to compare the "children of divorce" with children who have one deceased parent. Also, what about children who's primary caregiver remarried?
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: Gravity
I read this book because I work with at risk children but also because I'm in a failing marriage. Marriages all around me are being destoyed, mine may be next.

So, after reading this book I wanted to report the following:

2/3 of children of divorce that marry choose to never have children.
Children of divorce marry much later, if at all, well into their 30's or 40's.
When a divorce occurs, children cease to experience life as a child.
Children of divorce will likely not have their college paid for.
Children of divorce are at substantiallyhigher risk for drug use, suicide and pre-marital sex.
Children of divorce associate being happy with impending doom so they work to not appear to be happy.
Children that grow up in intact but seriously dysfunctional families are better off than children of divorce, including families with violent parents.

Here's the BOOK I read on the subject. It's very sobering.

Just thought I'd lighten up your Friday/Saturday.

Discuss


what a retarded book
 

ArmchairAthlete

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Children of divorce are at substantiallyhigher risk for drug use, suicide and pre-marital sex.

Where's my premarital sex.... I can do without the drugs just fine though.

Children that grow up in intact but seriously dysfunctional families are better off than children of divorce, including families with violent parents.

This just doesn't make sense....

2/3 of children of divorce that marry choose to never have children.
Children of divorce marry much later, if at all, well into their 30's or 40's.

I'd go along with those though, or at least I think they apply to me heh.
 

lavagirl669

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I disagree with ALL of those statistics or whatever they are.

I am a child of divorce, as are my siblings. My Son as well, as I went through
a divorce.

I chose to have a child
I married early
I DID experience life as a child
My college was fully paid for with scholarships and grants
I do not and have never used drugs, considered suicide or been promiscuous
I don't associate being happy with impending doom, I associate it with being
happy for what it is.
Whether in a dysfunctional family or a divorced family, I thik being "better off"
has nothing to do with either scenario.

I also think that book is a bunch of CRAP.

Should you decide to go through with your divorce, good luck with it...its rough, but
you will get through it and so will your children, just be a supportive and understanding parent and be there for them as much as possible.
 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: mrrman
Originally posted by: db
Marriage is all about how you DEAL WITH YOUR DIFFERANCES.

I think its the other way around...Divorce is how you deal with your differences...I know I am one of the stats...60% + of marriages fail

Thanks for fixing that quote.
 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: radioouman
Originally posted by: Gravity
I read this book because I work with at risk children but also because I'm in a failing marriage. Marriages all around me are being destoyed, mine may be next.

So, after reading this book I wanted to report the following:

2/3 of children of divorce that marry choose to never have children.
Children of divorce marry much later, if at all, well into their 30's or 40's.
When a divorce occurs, children cease to experience life as a child.
Children of divorce will likely not have their college paid for.
Children of divorce are at substantiallyhigher risk for drug use, suicide and pre-marital sex.
Children of divorce associate being happy with impending doom so they work to not appear to be happy.
Children that grow up in intact but seriously dysfunctional families are better off than children of divorce, including families with violent parents.

Here's the BOOK I read on the subject. It's very sobering.

Just thought I'd lighten up your Friday/Saturday.

Discuss


other than the drugs part, is there anything wrong with any of this?


Good question! Children from intact families are substantially LESS likely to experience them.
 

Gravity

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Mar 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I think a more appropriate conclusion would be that most people make bad decisions at some point or many times during their lives. Their offspring are pretty much along for the ride...what the fvck are you gonna do...Stay in a bad marriage because of useless statistics? Or divorce and move on with your life. Which is better for the children? I'd like to see a study on this.

Not that you've gotten the point at all...but the point is that children are irrevocably changed when a divorce occurs. Divorce has an impact and we, as a society, are doing it at an alarming rate, without thought to the consequences.

Therefore, staying married for the children is a legitimate strategy.

I think that's the theme of the book. The author goes on to rant and make recommendations to judges and politicians, like making it more difficult to get a divorce. Also recommendations for making marriage more attractive.

 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: tk149
Interesting responses in this thread. For those of you with real-life divorce experience, thank you for sharing.

I wonder if the actual divorce is the main trauma, or whether it's growing up in a one-parent household that causes those statistics. It'd be interesting to compare the "children of divorce" with children who have one deceased parent. Also, what about children who's primary caregiver remarried?

Good questions. As to the children of widows, they are better adjusted since their dad didn't abandon them, he died. He's in a better place, etc. The parental abaondonment is hard for kids to overcome.

When a widower remarries (man or woman) there is an adjustment period but it's not looked at as poorly by the children. When a divorced mom remarries the kids are often put lower on the priority list in an effort to make the marriage work. OTOH, some women/men elevate the children to a priority that puts huge stress on the new marriage sometimes causing it to fail. Remarriages fail at a much higher rate than initial marriages.
 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: lavagirl669
I disagree with ALL of those statistics or whatever they are.

I am a child of divorce, as are my siblings. My Son as well, as I went through
a divorce.

I chose to have a child
I married early
I DID experience life as a child
My college was fully paid for with scholarships and grants
I do not and have never used drugs, considered suicide or been promiscuous
I don't associate being happy with impending doom, I associate it with being
happy for what it is.
Whether in a dysfunctional family or a divorced family, I thik being "better off"
has nothing to do with either scenario.

I also think that book is a bunch of CRAP.

Should you decide to go through with your divorce, good luck with it...its rough, but
you will get through it and so will your children, just be a supportive and understanding parent and be there for them as much as possible.

THanks for sharing your experience. The research doesn't say all kids will suffer from these. I'm glad your experience was different. Thanks also for the encouragement.
 

meltdown75

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I can't comment on the book. Here's what happened in my experience.

Parents separated when I was 11-12. Very messy, including a 2 week period where the kids were basically being "hidden" from the father. Try that one on for size and see how it sticks with you. Being hidden from one of your own parents when you don't know what the F is going on - that'll leave a mark. Parents moved back in together after a couple years apart, somewhat restoring a fragile sense of family, but only for a while. Sure, dick me around more. Divorce was made official. Joint custody of the worst kind was implemented - revolving 2-week stays at each household. Boyfriends & girlfriends for each parent to boot, each with their own trash offspring brought into the picture, often living under the same roof. All the while, my parents are constantly competing with one another, trash-talking, and generally acting like idiots. Mom married the first guy she met, an abusive alcoholic that LOVED to wake me up in the middle of the night and scream obscenities in my face while my Mom pretended not to hear, I guess. Many many nights of that sh!t. Saw a lot of crazy damn sh!t I can't even bring up here. My father also remarried but not until he had dated scores of women, each one of them leaving their own little sh!tstain on my psyche. My mother's husband ended up being killed on the job in a gas line explosion (he was a pipeline welder) so I never did get to bring our relationship to resolve, although I did knock his ass out on the night of my sister's wedding. Dad thought it would be nice to invite Mom & hubby over after the reception. Hubby (incredibly drunk again) was convinced that my Dad had allowed my dog in the house so he could attack him. So he grabbed the dog by the lower and upper jaw and began to twist his head. Well my dog let out a yelp and I let out a right hook. My mom was bawling and screaming "I love you". Very chaotic, very ridiculous and left me feeling like some kind of crazy fvck.

Anyhoo, yeah. Way TMI but that is for the sake of the OP - I hope you enjoyed it. I sure as hell did.

As for all the other factors, well they probably all apply in my case. I somehow managed to get a BA, a great job and a fantastic woman who I have been married to for almost two years. If you ever see one of those posts that say, "What are your goals in life" or "What do you want out of life", you might think it's cheesy for someone to say, "A happy home for my children." Read the above and you'll see why it is so important to some people - it's because they never had it and they demand it for their own children.

Divorce sucks ass - everyone whose parents are still together, take the time to thank them for providing you a happy, secure and stable environment to grow up in. My kids (should I ever be blessed with them) will NEVER EVER see or experience the BULLSH!T that I went through growing up.

Sorry for the level of detail but I guess I needed this opportunity to vent. I left out all the crazy stuff anyway.

- Melt
 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
I can't comment on the book. Here's what happened in my experience.

Parents separated when I was 11-12. Very messy, including a 2 week period where the kids were basically being "hidden" from the father. Try that one on for size and see how it sticks with you. Being hidden from one of your own parents when you don't know what the F is going on - that'll leave a mark. Parents moved back in together after a couple years apart, somewhat restoring a fragile sense of family, but only for a while. Sure, dick me around more. Divorce was made official. Joint custody of the worst kind was implemented - revolving 2-week stays at each household. Boyfriends & girlfriends for each parent to boot, each with their own trash offspring brought into the picture, often living under the same roof. All the while, my parents are constantly competing with one another, trash-talking, and generally acting like idiots. Mom married the first guy she met, an abusive alcoholic that LOVED to wake me up in the middle of the night and scream obscenities in my face while my Mom pretended not to hear, I guess. Many many nights of that sh!t. Saw a lot of crazy damn sh!t I can't even bring up here. My father also remarried but not until he had dated scores of women, each one of them leaving their own little sh!tstain on my psyche. My mother's husband ended up being killed on the job in a gas line explosion (he was a pipeline welder) so I never did get to bring our relationship to resolve, although I did knock his ass out on the night of my sister's wedding. Dad thought it would be nice to invite Mom & hubby over after the reception. Hubby (incredibly drunk again) was convinced that my Dad had allowed my dog in the house so he could attack him. So he grabbed the dog by the lower and upper jaw and began to twist his head. Well my dog let out a yelp and I let out a right hook. My mom was bawling and screaming "I love you". Very chaotic, very ridiculous and left me feeling like some kind of crazy fvck.

Anyhoo, yeah. Way TMI but that is for the sake of the OP - I hope you enjoyed it. I sure as hell did.

As for all the other factors, well they probably all apply in my case. I somehow managed to get a BA, a great job and a fantastic woman who I have been married to for almost two years. If you ever see one of those posts that say, "What are your goals in life" or "What do you want out of life", you might think it's cheesy for someone to say, "A happy home for my children." Read the above and you'll see why it is so important to some people - it's because they never had it and they demand it for their own children.

Divorce sucks ass - everyone whose parents are still together, take the time to thank them for providing you a happy, secure and stable environment to grow up in. My kids (should I ever be blessed with them) will NEVER EVER see or experience the BULLSH!T that I went through growing up.

Sorry for the level of detail but I guess I needed this opportunity to vent. I left out all the crazy stuff anyway.

- Melt


Strangely like my own experience. My dad took my two youngest siblings and hid them for a YEAR!!

Other similarities too....thanks for sharing Melt.

I agree with your goal of having a less chaotic life for your kids.