Child pornography

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Farang
I was browsing through Wikipedia and let's forget about how I got to this point but I came across this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#United_States

On December 19, 2008, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, under presiding Judge Paul V. Niemeyer, ruled that the PROTECT Act of 2003 does apply to cartoons of child pornography, stating that "it is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exists". However, this appears to be in defiance of the 2004 Supreme Court ruling on the PROTECT Act. The 4th Circuit may have done this in order to persuade new justices on the Supreme Court to ignore the Supreme Court's prior precedent in regards to the PROTECT Act. Attorneys for the defendant (Dwight Whorley) say that they will appeal to the Supreme Court, asking them to re-iterate their prior verdict on the PROTECT Act.[84] He was sentenced to 20 years in jail for the possession of 20 anime.[85]

It seems wrong to me that a man can be locked up for 20 years for having comic books that depict child porn. If I draw a picture of a child having sex it seems I can be thrown in jail. If we compare this to a film like the Aristocrats, in which child sex is discussed openly and for the sake of being as crude as possible, how is drawing for the same purpose any different? Should we throw Bob Saget in jail for 20 years?

dont understand

2004 supreme court ruled that pedo cartoons are exempt from the 2003 Protect act???

in 2008, 4th us circuit says pedo cartoons are not exempt?

how can the 4th circuit override the supreme court?

wont any lawyer just cite the supreme court ruling and get his client out???

 

[her209]

Why is driving under the influence a crime if no car accident has occurred?

 

[SSSnail]

Where are the damn precogs when you need them?!

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: her209
Why is driving under the influence a crime if no car accident has occurred?

Without challenging the premise of that.. drunk driving leads to vehicular manslaughter, so should we lock up drunk drivers for 20 years also? Knowing this place I expect some of you crazies to say yes

 

[DomS]

OK, so anyone who draws violence is a murderer. So any violent cartoon or animation, comic book, or drawing. Or even movie. Anyone who draws any crime or looks at a picture of that type of crime is automatically that type of criminal.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Do you think that a person that is into child porn could possibly act on his/her infatuations?

So, we're going to start throwing people in jail for what they might do now??? 😕

You gazed at my daughter for 1 second too long!!! Off to jail with you!!! :|

i seemed to recall one place did make looking at kids to long a crime.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: her209
Why is driving under the influence a crime if no car accident has occurred?

Without challenging the premise of that.. drunk driving leads to vehicular manslaughter, so should we lock up drunk drivers for 20 years also? Knowing this place I expect some of you crazies to say yes

You guys are comparing apples to say, cow manure. It's that ridiculous.

When you're DUI, you do have all the instruments and catalyst for a serious accident to happen. When you draw shits on paper, you don't. You can fuck the piece of paper all you want but most you'd get out of it are paper cuts.

I don't agree with the ruling however.

 

[waggy]

man paper cuts on your penis? ouch.

 

[nutxo]

What if it was a midget dressed like a child?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Nope, that ain't right. Child pornography should be illegal only when real children are used to make it. End of story. Forget about whether or not toons can make someone who is already attracted to children into a full blown pedo. It probably doesn't make that much difference, but that's beside the point. I think child pornography in cartoon form is sick, but it doesn't hurt anyone and it doesn't even represent a root cause for pedophilia. It's merely something that people who are ALREADY attracted to children might like. The point is that we SHOULDN'T be outlawing stuff just because we don't like it. That's what this is.

 

[Baked]

Do not go to a family photo studio if you're sensitive about child pornography, they take pics w/ barely clad babies, all day long.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Baked
Do not go to a family photo studio if you're sensitive about child pornography, they take pics w/ barely clad babies, all day long.

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[TridenT]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Nope, that ain't right. Child pornography should be illegal only when real children are used to make it. End of story. Forget about whether or not toons can make someone who is already attracted to children into a full blown pedo. It probably doesn't make that much difference, but that's beside the point. I think child pornography, even in cartoon form, is sick, but it doesn't hurt anyone and it doesn't even represent a root cause for pedophilia. It's merely something that people who are ALREADY attracted to children might like. The point is that we SHOULDN'T be outlawing stuff just because we don't like it. That's what this is.

 

[Duddy]

I dare one of ya'll to draw a picture of anthrax and mail it to a government official!

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Do you think that a person that is into child porn could possibly act on his/her infatuations?

Does owning or drawing depicted child porn automatically make you a pedophile though? Like I said some art is crude for the sake of being crude, which is why I brought up to Aristrocrats/Bob Saget example (see youtube if you don't know it).

I'm sorry..but any man that is interested in women will not draw pictures depicting child porn.

i wouldnt be so sure on that. that's rather heavily infringing on free expression. if noone's getting hurt, i dont see the crime.

let's say someone buys a manga of 14 year olds having a romantic relationship that ultimately culminates in sex. is it child porn? should said person be charged for posession of child pornography? i dont think so. noone was hurt in the creation of said materials, and noone is going to be hurt by the posession of said materials. so whos the victim? where's the crime?

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Duddy
I dare one of ya'll to draw a picture of anthrax and mail it to a government official!

what does anthrax look like?

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Duddy
I dare one of ya'll to draw a picture of anthrax and mail it to a government official!

what does anthrax look like?

sort of like a naked boy.. draw a picture to get a better idea

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Do you think that a person that is into child porn could possibly act on his/her infatuations?

Does owning or drawing depicted child porn automatically make you a pedophile though? Like I said some art is crude for the sake of being crude, which is why I brought up to Aristrocrats/Bob Saget example (see youtube if you don't know it).

I'm sorry..but any man that is interested in women will not draw pictures depicting child porn.

i wouldnt be so sure on that. that's rather heavily infringing on free expression. if noone's getting hurt, i dont see the crime.

let's say someone buys a manga of 14 year olds having a romantic relationship that ultimately culminates in sex. is it child porn? should said person be charged for posession of child pornography? i dont think so. noone was hurt in the creation of said materials, and noone is going to be hurt by the posession of said materials. so whos the victim? where's the crime?

The only one hurt with child cartoon porn are the poor officers who have to look at it and waste their time enforcing this law. Think of the officers!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Baked
Do not go to a family photo studio if you're sensitive about child pornography, they take pics w/ barely clad babies, all day long.

Fuck...I have pictures of my son when he was an infant bathing with no clothes on...I suppose that makes me a child pornographer? :|

This shit is ridiculous.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: Duddy
I dare one of ya'll to draw a picture of anthrax and mail it to a government official!

what does anthrax look like?

sort of like a naked boy.. draw a picture to get a better idea

:laugh:MFAO!!!:thumbsup:

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Baked
Do not go to a family photo studio if you're sensitive about child pornography, they take pics w/ barely clad babies, all day long.

Fuck...I have pictures of my son when he was an infant bathing with no clothes on...I suppose that makes me a child pornographer? :|

This shit is ridiculous.

the police have already been called, they're on their way.

i advise you to assume the position.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Cartoon child pornography is legal. Check any booru site such as e621, danbooru, sanbooru, overbooru, etc. etc. and search for the tag "loli"

It does exist. I dont particularly care one way or the other. If they're getting off to that, well, better that than the real thing IMO.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
If you think child-porn toons are OK, you must think they are attractive. Anyone who is despised by the thought will not defend such horseshit.

Yeah, if only your personal revulsion were sufficient cause to arrest someone. Two words: victimless crime.

In anticipation to your response: "two words: sick fuck" Did I get it right? Typical, reactionary nonsense. Anyone who doesn't bend over backwards to throw the constitution out the window in order to "protect the children" is clearly a pedophile. You must be high.

:beer:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Baked
Do not go to a family photo studio if you're sensitive about child pornography, they take pics w/ barely clad babies, all day long.

Fuck...I have pictures of my son when he was an infant bathing with no clothes on...I suppose that makes me a child pornographer? :|

This shit is ridiculous.

the police have already been called, they're on their way.

i advise you to assume the position.

Fuck you and the cops. 😛

I've done nothing wrong or that any parent of a newborn child hasn't done.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: DomS
OK, so anyone who draws violence is a murderer. So any violent cartoon or animation, comic book, or drawing. Or even movie. Anyone who draws any crime or looks at a picture of that type of crime is automatically that type of criminal.

You're forgetting one little thing: This is America, where graphic violence is perfectly acceptable while everyone freaks out about sex.