good job, drop another 10 grand when you're already taking out a home equity loan. you understand what a home equity loan is? it means if you don't pay, your family is on the street. think about that before you "save gas money" by spending a bunch of dough on a bike. and don't even think about getting on a bike without life insurance, especially now that you've got at least one loan hanging over your family's head (plus maybe a mortgage and payments on the yukon?). do you think your wife can support your kid and the debt without you?
i know that sounds harsh, but it just sounds like you need a reality check. i'm sure a bike would be a blast, but there are plenty of cheaper and safer ways to have some fun and work off some steam.
i know that sounds harsh, but it just sounds like you need a reality check. i'm sure a bike would be a blast, but there are plenty of cheaper and safer ways to have some fun and work off some steam.
ah, the truth comes out. we have one upsidedown loan on the truck, almost certainly a huge upsidedown loan on the completely overkill yukon, a home equity loan, etc.
you say "i can afford it now," but you can't even afford the sh!t you already have. you don't even own the house you live in or the cars you drive. think about paying that stuff off before you make more big-ticket purchases.
You only live once. Get a Ducati 999R.
Ducati 999R
Edit: I'm only kidding. My wife won't let me get a bike, especially now that we have a baby.
Ducati 999R
Edit: I'm only kidding. My wife won't let me get a bike, especially now that we have a baby.
I agree. This is clearly the wrong hobby to get into with a son on the way. You are really acting irresponsible. I would suggest selling your car and getting a fun sports car. A motorcycle will really get inconvenient if you drive it to work everyday. What happens if you need to pickup groceries on the way.. or what if it starts raining or snowing. Plus, there's a good chance you'll get hurt.
<----- First horse I ever rode was a wild Mustang from out West. I was visiting family down in Troy, AL, and I used to really like horses. Well, the horse had never been ridden by anyone but my his owner, but he said I was light enough that it should be ok. Before that day only the owner and a 50lb sack of potatoes had ever sat on this horse. Within 10 seconds I was thrown head first into a fence. That horse simply didn't care to be ridden, and that is about how a 750 is to a new rider.
A good friend of mine bought a similar bike(I and another friend had a long talk with him about how dangerous it is) and within 2 months he wrecked it and broke his neck. Amazingly he wasn't paralyzed, but it is VERY dangerous to start out on a bike like that.
I would go for more than $1 million if it were me if you decide to get a bike. You will need enough money in insurance to:
--bury you
--pay off ALL debts (CC, car loans, student loans for both you and your wife, and all home loans)
--Replace your current salary for 5 years
--Fund your child's college education in 18 years
Here is my take on the situation... a bike sounds like a fun hobby, but you have bigger responsibilities to think about than your hobbies. You have a wife and a child on the way. If you are concerned about gas milage, look into getting a small, used car that has good gas economy. If you die, or worse yet, if you live through a crash and can't work, then not only are you screwed, but your wife and child are screwed as well.
I would take the money you were going to spend on a bike and use it to start a college savings account or some other type of educational investment for your child. In 18 or 19 years he may need that money to go school on.
I hate to be practical, but it is the way life goes. Think of your unborn child!
R
You now have responsibilities, grow up, you can always get your motorcycle AFTER your kid(s) are reared and educated.
HomeBrewerDude
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Yeah commuting on a motorcycle is not always pleasant. For some people maybe (my brother in law rides EVERYWHERE, only had a few minor lay downs) but for most people, the logistics of commuting on a motorcycle would be significant.
hahaha you have never had a bike before and you looking to get on a Supersport 750 thats one of the fastest bikes in the US... that 750 will beat the crap outa my Honda CBR929RR by over 10 mph on the top end.... which is 180mph...
you have a kid on the way... you have never ridden a bike and want a widowmaker as your first bike...
All i got to say is take out a 5 million dollar life policy in your sons name... hes gonna need it...
Now if you had said hey i want to learn how to ride and Im gonna buy a responisible first bike like a Ninja 500 or a GS500 or even an SV 650 then ya id say go for it...
but your compelte lack of respect for the entire motorcycle hobby by selecting a supersport race ready 750 as your first bike shows you are a future darwin award winner...
and before you go mouthing off that "hey im mature enough to respect the power"
its not the power that will kill you.. its the bike is designed for experts it will do things 8x faster than a bike designed for beginners... turning braking acceleration... not to mention front wheel in the air under any kind of acceleration at all....
I have 20 years riding bikes from the time I was barely able to touch ground an a 90cc trail bike thorugh 12 bikes now up to my 2001 CBR929RR.. I hold a CCS/AMA race license as well as having a street license for 15 years now...
I have buried many people like you that just had to have that SS 600 750 or 1000 as thier first bike... and died within 1 year of buying the bike due to lack of experience being on a machine they had no business being on.
you all have good points. as for the guy that says i need to start a college education for my child, well, i have one. its the virginia plan. so, i dont have anything to worry about there. Also, i have ridden before, just on dirt. Maybe you guys are right about a 750 being too much bike right away. Maybe a sv650 or so would be best. I just dont want to grow out of the bike too quick. but then again, i guess i wont. its just the warning i am getting from all my friends that ride.
It is all good points most of you bring to the table and i appreciate it. My decision has pretty much been made to probably just get a different kind of toy... something like a 4 wheeler. Where i dont have to be involved in moving items and trucks and stuff. Maybe when i get older i will get a bike. But by then, my belly will be on the tank and it will have to be a cruiser then....
It is all good points most of you bring to the table and i appreciate it. My decision has pretty much been made to probably just get a different kind of toy... something like a 4 wheeler. Where i dont have to be involved in moving items and trucks and stuff. Maybe when i get older i will get a bike. But by then, my belly will be on the tank and it will have to be a cruiser then....
nakedfrog
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I've been toying with the idea of getting a bike myself for a couple years. If we buy the house I'm considering I'll think even more heavily about it. I'm just planning on a 250cc dual sport bike or something. The new house is more or less in the sticks, and yet still about the same distance from my work. After practicing on roads that few people drive on and out in the dirt, I'd considering taking it the 5-6 miles to work. Hopefully it's less rough on a bike to be driven 10-12 minutes/5-6 miles and then parked than it is on a car.
JulesMaximus
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Originally posted by: bR
Wrong bike.
Yeah, that's not going to be a comfortable commuter bike that's for sure. I'd get something geared a little more towards touring.
JulesMaximus
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You make it sound as if buying a powerful sport bike as your first bike can't be done. I have a friend who bought a Honda 750 sport bike as his first motorcycle. He took a 3 day training course offered through the dealer he bought the bike from and he used it for commuting for 3 years in Los Angeles traffic. Never laid it down once. He was a small framed guy though. I don't think someone 6'4" would be comfortable on a sport bike for 80 minutes a day, 5 days a week.
StageLeft
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I would love to have a bike. I've ridden them a bit and they're so fun.
That said, it's an irresponsible, IMO, hobby. Whether you are going to be the most responsible driver ever in existence or not, makes up only one side of the equation. The other side is that people don't see bikes as easily. They are more likely to be hit. And guess what happens when you're hit? You die. Your legs make up your side impact beams.
I would say get a safer hobby if you're going to be a dad. It's a thin line of being responsible vs. losing all enjoyable things in life, once you have a kid. On one end would be stamp collecting and on the other would be prototyping drag racing bikes on salt flags, but somewhere in there you need to weigh the risks and not wanting to be a cripple or having a childless father.
Statistics bear out that these things are dangerous, especially the bike you're looking at. Insurance premiums alone lend evidence to that, not even the fact that tons of people who ride them get a trip to the ER (or worse, the morgue!). There are people who've ridden for decades without an accident, but one thing is for sure: it's a dangerous hobby.
That said, it's an irresponsible, IMO, hobby. Whether you are going to be the most responsible driver ever in existence or not, makes up only one side of the equation. The other side is that people don't see bikes as easily. They are more likely to be hit. And guess what happens when you're hit? You die. Your legs make up your side impact beams.
I would say get a safer hobby if you're going to be a dad. It's a thin line of being responsible vs. losing all enjoyable things in life, once you have a kid. On one end would be stamp collecting and on the other would be prototyping drag racing bikes on salt flags, but somewhere in there you need to weigh the risks and not wanting to be a cripple or having a childless father.
Statistics bear out that these things are dangerous, especially the bike you're looking at. Insurance premiums alone lend evidence to that, not even the fact that tons of people who ride them get a trip to the ER (or worse, the morgue!). There are people who've ridden for decades without an accident, but one thing is for sure: it's a dangerous hobby.
Couple of things here, mostly rehash...
First up, a GSX-R is not a comfortable bike to ride for a long period of time. The ergonomics are solely designed for performance, not for cruising. Your height/weight would make the probably WORSE as well.
And of course, until you get some riding experience, do not get a sport bike, espeically something like a GSX-R. They can be fun once you have experience, but definitely not for a first bike.
I reccomend a SV650 as well. Very nice bike, good power, and easy to ride. It has enough performance to satisfy most people as well, presuming you know how to ride it.
First up, a GSX-R is not a comfortable bike to ride for a long period of time. The ergonomics are solely designed for performance, not for cruising. Your height/weight would make the probably WORSE as well.
And of course, until you get some riding experience, do not get a sport bike, espeically something like a GSX-R. They can be fun once you have experience, but definitely not for a first bike.
I reccomend a SV650 as well. Very nice bike, good power, and easy to ride. It has enough performance to satisfy most people as well, presuming you know how to ride it.
Have you answered the question of how your wife is feeling about it?
I am reminded of what my husband did when he found out #2 was on the way...suddenly he absolutely HAD to learn how to fly. We were flat broke, but somehow several thousand dollars later, he had his pilot's license a couple months after our daughter was born. I was thrilled with the timing of this little escapade. Did I mention that he didn't have life insurance?
I am reminded of what my husband did when he found out #2 was on the way...suddenly he absolutely HAD to learn how to fly. We were flat broke, but somehow several thousand dollars later, he had his pilot's license a couple months after our daughter was born. I was thrilled with the timing of this little escapade. Did I mention that he didn't have life insurance?
my wife supports everything i want to do. she says if its what i really want... then she supports it.
Well, I guess if you really want one nobody can really talk you out of it but at least invest in a decent life insurance policy or something for your family...and maybe make sure it has coverage for cases where you can't work anymore due to paralyzation and whatnot. Not to be morbid or anything, but you should really make sure your family's covered if you're planning on increasing your own risk of death substantially. And hey, I want a motorcycle too haha.
Heck, even though riding the airplane is statistically extremely safe, it still makes me feel a little better that if I did manage to get killed my family could pay off my college loans and get back all the money they dumped into my college education thanks to the travel insurance. Of course that's probably just because I'm paranoid haha.
On a side note, my family stays off motorcycles these days because of what happened to other family members, which is probably part of why I don't ride a motorcycle even though I really really really want one.
Heck, even though riding the airplane is statistically extremely safe, it still makes me feel a little better that if I did manage to get killed my family could pay off my college loans and get back all the money they dumped into my college education thanks to the travel insurance. Of course that's probably just because I'm paranoid haha.
On a side note, my family stays off motorcycles these days because of what happened to other family members, which is probably part of why I don't ride a motorcycle even though I really really really want one.
A honda 750 from even a few years ago isnt even in the same league as a GSXR 750 or a CBR600RR or any of the supersport 600s we have these days...
honda hasnt built a "supersport classed 750" since the days when I was young anyway...
600s from the 80s are not bad beginner bikes either.... they are not the same animal as a modern sportbike...
I stand by everything I wrote... and beign that you didnt know Honda's Sportbikes since 1988 have been only CBR 600s and CBR900s and 1000s they havent sold a competive 750 since 84-88 with the Interceptor and it was a V style motor as well not an Inline as the modern sportbikes...
and yes the Interceptor still exists but it is NOT a sportbike... its a touring bike on a detuned motor that is VERY tame.. that yes a beginner could prolly ride with no problems except for the weight..
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