Child of 2 lesbians speaks...

[JSt0rm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

What is the problem again?

 

[mizzou]

marriage, historically, could be the bonding of two families to create a new lineage.

The problem is now marriage is a contractual relationship, it's nothing really about bringing two families together. Herego, the "Asking for permission for daughters hand"

Let's stop calling it marriage, who cares who lives with who nowadays


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinship

 

[Brigandier]

19 and an excellent orator, makes me wonder why he wants to be an engineer (besides the almost defacto guarantee of employment).

Disclaimer: I agree with everything he said.

Too bad personal experience cannot be generalized into a conclusion...

 

[sandorski]

Of course he likes Chicks, I mean, well, it's obvious.

 

[bfdd]

? BREAKING NEWS THEY HAVE OPINIONS TOO!

Shit I could have told you it is fine. My cousins(guys) were raised by their mom and lesbian partner, they both are more "normal" than I am.

 

[Binarycow]

pretty good speech. 100 years from now, the children of our children's children will read in their history book and will wonder how people back then had the nerve to vote for something as ugly as this. Just like why we cannot understand how slavery was acceptable, women could not vote, WW2 internment camp, etc.

 

[Newbian]

Did they show the moms and are they hot?

 

[Jaskalas]

Did they show the moms and are they hot?

You're right, it doesn't work otherwise.

 

[ichy]

Did they show the moms and are they hot?

Sadly I doubt it

 

[Ausm]

? BREAKING NEWS THEY HAVE OPINIONS TOO!

Shit I could have told you it is fine. My cousins(guys) were raised by their mom and lesbian partner, they both are more "normal" than I am.

resisting comment.

 

[Texashiker]

Child of 2 lesbians speaks...

Its impossible for 2 lesbians to have a child, unless one of them is a hermaphrodite.

What is the problem again?

The title implies that 2 lesbians had a child, which we know from biology class is physically impossible.

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Humans have a strong desire to reproduce, why do you think we like sex so much?

When we see 2 men together, or 2 women together, the majority of us know its not doing anything to further the species. Gay couples conflict with our natural drive to reproduce.

If gays want to pull themselves out of the breeding population, that is fine with me, but do not take children from man:woman couples that can not have children.

Gays know they took a path that would not allow them to have children naturally. If you want a child, pick someone from the opposite sex to have have sex with, or have artificial-insemination.

 

[shortylickens]

He speaks well for a 19 year old.
Almost as good as me.

As for the issue at hand: Its pretty much only close-minded overly-religious folks that have a serious problem with homosexuality. But they do wield lots of power.

 

[Texashiker]

As for the issue at hand: Its pretty much only close-minded overly-religious folks that have a serious problem with homosexuality.

As a Christian, I used to object to homosexuality, mainly due to the old testament.

But 2 things have pointed me in a different direction:

Jesus said to love one another. He did not say love everyone except for gays.

I do not object to gays because of their lifestyle, I object to gays adopting children when the decided to travel down a path that they "knew" would not allow them to have a relationship which would produce children.

If you know driving the wrong way on a highway will cause a wreck, do not expect people to move out of your way. Being in a gay relationship is like going the wrong way. Most people know if they want to reproduce they have to pick someone of the opposite sex to travel through life with. Gays travel in the opposite direction as everyone else who has a natural man:woman relationship.

There is a difference in choosing to be in a relationship that will not produce a child, and having a physical illness or condition that prevents the man:woman from having a child.

I think it was in 2009 or 2010 there was a TV show about a cruise ship for gay couples. The whole purpose of the cruise ship was for gay couple of meet someone of the opposite sex to have sex with and to get pregnant. I have no issues with that, at all.

 

[shortylickens]

Very good sir. Though I must apologize. I wasnt trying to suggest that all Christians automatically hate gays, cuz I know that isnt true either.

 

[Agfadoc]

I could care less if Gays want to be married, there is no tax benefit and it's not quite bliss anyway. Look at the divorce rate in America, 50%. I give them the same odds.

The only problem I have is cramming it down my throat (not literally). I accept that you are different than me, keep your house in order and don't encroach upon my rights and I could care less what you do, but let me raise MY kids the way that I want.

You can't have it both ways, you can't demand your freedom to raise a child without any external pressure, then turn around and demand external pressure to accept you.

Example being raised in California, the gay right groups were trying to force schools to teach "being gay" to kindergarten and first graders.. Look, these kids can barely recognize sex differences, why on earth would you want to teach kids of this age about being gay? Why do you think there is a backlash?

Fences make good neighbors, stay on your side and I'll stay on mine. Cross the line and we will have problems.

 

[blackangst1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

What is the problem again?

I dunno, but these two studies seem to indicate a fatherless home is detrimental. *shrug*

 

[yllus]

I do not object to gays because of their lifestyle, I object to gays adopting children when the decided to travel down a path that they "knew" would not allow them to have a relationship which would produce children.

They chose a path that meant that they could not procreate naturally. They did not choose a path that deemed it impossible for them to adopt one of the tens of millions of children in the world who are unwanted or orphaned.

 

[Craig234]

As a Christian, I used to object to homosexuality, mainly due to the old testament.

But 2 things have pointed me in a different direction:

Jesus said to love one another. He did not say love everyone except for gays.

That's one thing, not two, but a fine thing.

I do not object to gays because of their lifestyle, I object to gays adopting children when the decided to travel down a path that they "knew" would not allow them to have a relationship which would produce children.

They didn't choose to be gay. You're ignorant. And heterosexuals who choose not to have children are allowed to marry. That's an excuse for discrimination.

If you know driving the wrong way on a highway will cause a wreck, do not expect people to move out of your way. Being in a gay relationship is like going the wrong way.

No, it's not. That's you being a bigot.

Most people know if they want to reproduce they have to pick someone of the opposite sex to travel through life with. Gays travel in the opposite direction as everyone else who has a natural man:woman relationship.

Gays are 'natural'. Things that are uncommon doesn't mean 'unnatural'. Like albinos.

There is a difference in choosing to be in a relationship that will not produce a child, and having a physical illness or condition that prevents the man:woman from having a child.

They don't choose to be gay.

I think it was in 2009 or 2010 there was a TV show about a cruise ship for gay couples. The whole purpose of the cruise ship was for gay couple of meet someone of the opposite sex to have sex with and to get pregnant. I have no issues with that, at all.

Who cares? Irrelevant.

You need to learn the basics of human sexuality.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Some of my gay friends are some of the least tolerant people I know. You'd think it would be otherwise. I don't get the 'You must accept me as I am but YOU are a bigot if you don't think as I do" attitude. And its not just on 'gay' issues. Many are rabidly anti-religion, ok fine.. but also on things like the environment, social programs, etc. You better agree with THEIR views or else.

Fortunately, being the tolerant person I am I overlook these flaws and accept people for who they are.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Its impossible for 2 lesbians to have a child, unless one of them is a hermaphrodite.

If a heterosexual couple adopts a child, are they allowed to say "this is my child" or do they have to qualify it as "this is a child that I did not physically reproduce to create but adopted and raised as my own offspring?"

There is a difference in choosing to be in a relationship that will not produce a child, and having a physical illness or condition that prevents the man:woman from having a child.

You've used the word "choice" an awful lot. Are you only in a heterosexual relationship because you choose to be? The only thing preventing you from banging dudes is you making a conscious choice to procreate, because, you know, biology and shit? That doesn't sound right...

 

[Blackjack200]

There is a difference in choosing to be in a relationship that will not produce a child, and having a physical illness or condition that prevents the man:woman from having a child.

And what if a man marries a woman that he already knew could not bear children? Should they also be excluded from adoption because he made a "choice"? Or should people marry the person they love and use science/society to build their lives in a way that benefits both themsevles and their communities?

I think it was in 2009 or 2010 there was a TV show about a cruise ship for gay couples. The whole purpose of the cruise ship was for gay couple of meet someone of the opposite sex to have sex with and to get pregnant. I have no issues with that, at all.

I think of Poe's law when you type this kind of shit.

 

[ShawnD1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

What is the problem again?

The problem is that they like women. Women suck!

Of course he likes Chicks, I mean, well, it's obvious.

Only because his lesbian parents brainwashed him to like women. If he had normal parents, he would have been gay like everyone else.

I dunno, but these two studies seem to indicate a fatherless home is detrimental. *shrug*

Lesbians are basically 80% men anyway, so that argument is out. Stereotypes aside, that's actually true to some degree. Lots of studies show that lesbian women have behavior very similar to straight men. The way they approach problems, they way they handle emotions, they way they bond with people, etc. Those weird studies looking at relations to finger length conclude that lesbian women and straight men have similar hand proportions; the ring finger is longer than the index finger. Gay men and straight women were similar as well; index finger is equal to or longer than the ring finger. It almost starts to blur the line describing which sex someone is. If someone acts like a man in every way and even their general body shape resembles that of a man (or boy), is it fair to say they're 100% women? Do manly lesbians raise children the same way straight women do, or does it look more like the way a man raises a child?

Balance is probably the most important part. One of my friends has a girly dad and a butchy mom. The roles are totally switched but she has the same parental experience as people who have an asshole dad and submissive mom. If someone has a butchy lesbian parent and a girly lesbian parent, that should be balance enough. At least in theory.

 

[WHAMPOM]

As a Christian, I used to object to homosexuality, mainly due to the old testament.

But 2 things have pointed me in a different direction:

Jesus said to love one another. He did not say love everyone except for gays.

I do not object to gays because of their lifestyle, I object to gays adopting children when the decided to travel down a path that they "knew" would not allow them to have a relationship which would produce children.

If you know driving the wrong way on a highway will cause a wreck, do not expect people to move out of your way. Being in a gay relationship is like going the wrong way. Most people know if they want to reproduce they have to pick someone of the opposite sex to travel through life with. Gays travel in the opposite direction as everyone else who has a natural man:woman relationship.

There is a difference in choosing to be in a relationship that will not produce a child, and having a physical illness or condition that prevents the man:woman from having a child.

I think it was in 2009 or 2010 there was a TV show about a cruise ship for gay couples. The whole purpose of the cruise ship was for gay couple of meet someone of the opposite sex to have sex with and to get pregnant. I have no issues with that, at all.

So all infertile couples should not adopt/raise children?? Laught riot you are!

 

[WHAMPOM]

I could care less if Gays want to be married, there is no tax benefit and it's not quite bliss anyway. Look at the divorce rate in America, 50%. I give them the same odds.

The only problem I have is cramming it down my throat (not literally). I accept that you are different than me, keep your house in order and don't encroach upon my rights and I could care less what you do, but let me raise MY kids the way that I want.

You can't have it both ways, you can't demand your freedom to raise a child without any external pressure, then turn around and demand external pressure to accept you.

Example being raised in California, the gay right groups were trying to force schools to teach "being gay" to kindergarten and first graders.. Look, these kids can barely recognize sex differences, why on earth would you want to teach kids of this age about being gay? Why do you think there is a backlash?

Fences make good neighbors, stay on your side and I'll stay on mine. Cross the line and we will have problems.

Some one forcing you to adopt a "GAY" life style? No? Then practise what you preach and don't force your life style on others.

 

[shortylickens]

Some of my gay friends are some of the least tolerant people I know. You'd think it would be otherwise. I don't get the 'You must accept me as I am but YOU are a bigot if you don't think as I do" attitude. And its not just on 'gay' issues. Many are rabidly anti-religion, ok fine.. but also on things like the environment, social programs, etc. You better agree with THEIR views or else.

Fortunately, being the tolerant person I am I overlook these flaws and accept people for who they are.

Yeah over at my community college the gay kids are probably our most hateful, closed minded group of students. I try to tell myself they've been treated like shit their whole lives and have a right to be angry. Then I remember they're just children and their "whole lives" dont amount to much. If they go mouthing off to the wrong person in the real world they will likely get beat up or killed.