Chik-fil-A opens a Hawaiian themed restaurant in Georgia

[SMOGZINN]

You judge a persons morals by the brand of chicken sandwiches they eat?

LOL

Uno

No, I judge people based on how they spend their money, for that is where their real morals lie.

 

[randay]

Way to not address the issue being talked about. The issue is not what CFA does, or if they have the right to do so. What I am saying is that you can't know how they spend the money you give them and still claim no responsibility for enabling it.

uh... people give them money in exchange for food. those people arent responsible for any political or religious views of CFA just like how CFA isnt responsible for how your next dump goes. yes, you can apply a certain amount of causation, but pretty much zero responsibility.

 

[SMOGZINN]

uh... people give them money in exchange for food.

That is true.

those people arent responsible for any political or religious views of CFA just like how CFA isnt responsible for how your next dump goes.

Those people are not responcible for CFA's views, they are responcibly for supporting them in the actions they take based on those views.

If you give a crack addict money, he is going to spend it on crack. That is called enableing.
By doing that you make yourself a part of the problem. You ENABLE him to smoke crack.

By buying chicken sandwiches from CFA you ENABLE them to commit hate crimes.

yes, you can apply a certain amount of causation, but pretty much zero responsibility.

Where there is causation there is responsibility. 'Just following orders' is not a defense and neither is 'I didn't swing the axe', by knowingly supporting them financially you make yourself a part of the crime.

What is sad is that you have allowed yourself to be convinced that because your contribution was so small that you have no blame.

 

[Ichinisan]

Chik-Fil-A the flavor of hate!

Why do you hate CFA?

 

[Ichinisan]

Chik-fil-uh has stated their religious beliefs will prevent them from ever opening a store here so, as far as I am concerned, they can go DIAF.

Where is "here?"

 

[randay]

Where there is causation there is responsibility. 'Just following orders' is not a defense and neither is 'I didn't swing the axe', by knowingly supporting them financially you make yourself a part of the crime.

a poor comparison there... we arent following orders or swinging the axe. we are the guy cutting down the tree so the axe handle can be made. or connecting the telephone wires so that the order can be given.

i bet you would blame the chicken farmers for hate crimes if you could....

btw i have never eaten at a CFA. they dont exist where i live. i also have no clue to what their religious/political views are, or any hate crimes they may have commited as a corporation. if they openly post these on their menus or restaurants some such, then i can see where you are coming from. do they?

and i do not agree that causation equals responsibility.

 

[Ichinisan]

No kidding. I pine for the good old days when we could execute gays right here in America simply for choosing to be gay.

Does CFA advocate execution of homosexuals?

 

[Ichinisan]

Pretending that you can abdicate yourself from responsibility by simply not caring is also stupid. How ever you try to fool yourself you are helping support the hate that they spew.

"Hate."

They "spew" Christian love from everything I've seen. Christians are supposed to love homosexuals and all people, even "sinners" -- because Jesus loved them, even as unrepentant sinners.

 

[Childs]

Don't you live in Sacramento? If so, there is one there.

There are two here in the Silicon Valley area.

Yeah, I saw they opened one in Sunnyvale and there was a huge line. When I got home I checked the menu online thinking I would check it out, but nothing seemed to warrant the parking hassle and the wait. Kind of reminds me what it was like when Krispie Kreme opened up in Mountain View.

As far as Hawaiian goes, I doubt Chic Fil A can do it better than L&L. Now I kinda want to get some Spam musabi for dinner.

 

[SMOGZINN]

a poor comparison there... we arent following orders or swinging the axe. we are the guy cutting down the tree so the axe handle can be made. or connecting the telephone wires so that the order can be given.

The point is that it does not matter where you stand in the line of people necessary to commit the crime. If you knowingly assist in the crime you are responsible for it.

i bet you would blame the chicken farmers for hate crimes if you could....

Truthfully, I find that an interesting question that I will have to think about.

if they openly post these on their menus or restaurants some such, then i can see where you are coming from. do they?

They don't put it on their menu's but they pretty proudly proclaim it anytime they get the chance.

and i do not agree that causation equals responsibility.

If causing it doesn't make you responcible then what does?

 

[SMOGZINN]

"Hate."

They "spew" Christian love from everything I've seen. Christians are supposed to love homosexuals and all people, even "sinners" -- because Jesus loved them, even as unrepentant sinners.

Hm, sometimes I have a really hard time telling the difference between hate and 'christian love'.

 

[Ichinisan]

Read up on the morals and values of Chik-fil-a and get back to us. You do know the company supported the execution of gays through their indirect sponsorship of religious political parties in Africa in don't you? Morals indeed.

I'm sure that's another misrepresented story that went viral after some deliberately-deceptive blogger posted it.

No mention of it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A#Same-sex_marriage_controversy

 

[Ichinisan]

Hm, sometimes I have a really hard time telling the difference between hate and 'christian love'.

"I disagree with you" or "I think what you're doing is a sin" does not mean the same thing as "I hate you."

This is where people go off the rails when it comes to Chick-Fil-A or any other organization owned/operated by Christians.

 

[IronWing]

I'm sure that's another misrepresented story that went viral after some deliberately-deceptive blogger posted it.

No mention of it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A#Same-sex_marriage_controversy

Now continue reading about where your lunch money was going.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

 

[randay]

If causing it doesn't make you responcible then what does?

because you cannot reasonably apply responsibility that far down the line. if you could, then you could say that the us treasury is responsible for hate crimes by printing money which is then used to buy a chicken sandwhich.

anyway... i get it, you dont like CFA. lets me and you not argue anymore about who is responsible. i would love to see a few examples of CFA's regilious views that you are against tho.

 

[ponyo]

This concept will bomb just like all other non-Chick-fil-a restaurants. I've been to Truett's Grill. It sucks. It's basically Chick-fil-sit down restaurant with required tip. Pointless.

 

[Ichinisan]

Now continue reading about where your lunch money was going.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

I read almost the whole thing. That Christian organization thinks homosexuality is wrong and they feel like their religion requires that they oppose legislation that might encourage "sinful" behavior. If they are truly Christian, they still love the individual "sinners." The reason they try to discourage the sin should be for the sake of the sinners and their immortal souls.

Disagree with them. Call them "hateful." Then do something like this...

In 2012, a security guard working at the FRC headquarters was shot by a man who saw the organization listed on the SPLC's web site.

Hypocrisy.

...and I guess you missed this:

FRC does not support the Uganda bill, and does not support the death penalty for homosexuality - nor any other penalty which would have the effect of inhibiting compassionate pastoral, psychological, and medical care and treatment for those who experience same-sex attractions or who engage in homosexual conduct

Gotta say, I don't agree with FRC, but there's no reason to exaggerate their anti-gay stance. As far as I can tell, they're anti-gay only because they are anti-sin.

 

[SAWYER]

I understand that, and fully support their right to believe that.


I agree with both of those statements.


And still we agree.



Way to not address the issue being talked about. The issue is not what CFA does, or if they have the right to do so. What I am saying is that you can't know how they spend the money you give them and still claim no responsibility for enabling it.

I don't care what they spend their money on, none of my business.

 

[Sinsear]

I love you Chik-Fil-A

 

[ussfletcher]

The pancakes do look meh, Cracker Barrell has the best pancakes

Really? I don't mean to bash your tastes, as everyone has their own preferences, but I've never understood how people enjoy Cracker Barrel. I've had several things on their menu (I've been there about a dozen times split between breakfast and dinner and have gotten different things each time) and I don't find any of the meals to be very appealing. I think the pancakes in the OP look just fine, but man I just can't accept favoring Cracker Barrel pancakes over those based on the picture.

 

[SAWYER]

Cfa honey roasted bbq sauce is the best condiment ever

 

[phucheneh]

I don't care what they spend their money on, none of my business.

I heard Hitler fried a mighty tasty chicken.

Even if you knew about the Jews, it's not like you're a bad guy just for stopping by Mrs Hitler's for a delicious ten-piece bucket at some point between 1939 and 1945, right? Shit, I just like the dude's chicken, get off your high horse, people.

 

[IronWing]

...and I guess you missed this:

They were called out on their support for a murderous policy and decided to backtrack.

As far as I can tell, they're anti-gay only because they are anti-sin.

Which is simply another way of saying they are anti-gay. However they took it a step further than most bigots. They happily ponied up the money to prop up those who would kill gays while cowardly hiding behind their sock-puppet god.

 

[SAWYER]

Well if in some people's opinion I am wrong for eating Cfa then that is fine, people can have their opinions. I love their spicy checked bisquits

 

[IronWing]

Well if in some people's opinion I am wrong for eating Cfa then that is fine, people can have their opinions. I love their spicy checked bisquits

That's fine. Felix went out his way to praise CFA's morals and values, that's all.