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whm1974

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$0.11 per dipping sauce? How is that much different than ketchup? It's not like the ingredients are anymore expensive. Either way, price it in with the chicken - it's insane. What stupid person eats nuggets/strips without a sauce?

Generally for like... a 12 piece nugget meal at Chik-Fil-A (which are pretty small nuggets) I need at least 3 - preferably 4.

Either way hoarding sauces like you're an ancient guardian is just ridiculous.
If you have high blood pressure then you need to be sparely with any sauces as well as what kinds you consume.
 

Chaotic42

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$0.11 per dipping sauce? How is that much different than ketchup? It's not like the ingredients are anymore expensive. Either way, price it in with the chicken - it's insane. What stupid person eats nuggets/strips without a sauce?

Generally for like... a 12 piece nugget meal at Chik-Fil-A (which are pretty small nuggets) I need at least 3 - preferably 4.

Either way hoarding sauces like you're an ancient guardian is just ridiculous.
Ketchup was just under $0.01. The usual formula was one sauce for six nuggets, two for ten, four for twenty. Of course, McDonald's is also considerably cheaper than CFA.
 
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Ketchup was just under $0.01. The usual formula was one sauce for six nuggets, two for ten, four for twenty. Of course, McDonald's is also considerably cheaper than CFA.

Seems ridiculous

BARBEQUE SAUCE: Sugar, Water, Vinegar, Tomato Paste, Soy Sauce (Wheat), Thickeners (1442, 415), Salt, Glucose Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Flavouring, Spices, Colour (150d), Preservative (211), Flavour Enhancer (635), Acidity Regulator (296).

KETCHUP PACKET
Ingredients: Tomato Concentrate from Red Ripe Tomatoes, Distilled Vinegar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Water, Salt, Natural Flavors.

Above are quotes from McDonalds of the ingredients in BBQ / Ketchup. What ingredient is in the BBQ that is over 11x the price of ketchup ingredients? Hell, the first 4 of the BBQ are in the ketchup which make up the majority of the mixture.
 

Chaotic42

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Seems ridiculous





Above are quotes from McDonalds of the ingredients in BBQ / Ketchup. What ingredient is in the BBQ that is over 11x the price of ketchup ingredients? Hell, the first 4 of the BBQ are in the ketchup which make up the majority of the mixture.
My guess is the rigid packaging and the quantity. I don't know off hand, but I'd imagine the sauce cups are 5 or 6 times the volume of a ketchup packet.
 

destrekor

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I love Chik-fil-a! This is a small reason why. I dislike some of the ownership's politics and beliefs but they do right by their workers. At least the ones they hire. lol

If in the Midwest -- specifically [probably] about anywhere within a day's drive (8 hours?) of Wisconsin* -- I highly recommend checking out Culver's. Their frozen custard is amazing, good burgers, and they always have fresh cheese curds as a side! And they too have super friendly staff. They manage their drive through quite well for a cook to order place. They give you a number and they'll bring food to you, whether in your car or in the store.

* This is a rough guess, but that's generally their footprint from what I recall. I don't have one super close to me but pass by one on my travels for work often enough.
 

destrekor

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My guess is the rigid packaging and the quantity. I don't know off hand, but I'd imagine the sauce cups are 5 or 6 times the volume of a ketchup packet.

Yup, partly product packaging cost itself (maybe a penny or two more though lol) but a major factor is volume of individual products for logistics/shipping purposes. They get less "servings" or packets per unit of shipping volume with any dipping sauce as opposed to soft packet-based items like ketchup, mustard, mayo, etc.
 

ultimatebob

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We have a few of these in Connecticut now, but the Southern themed decorations in them seem a bit much of a fast food restaurant. Popeye's seems to do a better job of bringing in some Southern charm without it being over the top.

The chicken sammich and waffle fries that I had were good, anyway, the diet lemonade not so much.
 
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Who you callin' stuped? :p You only need dipping sauces if the chicken is dry or tastes bad. Properly fried chicken requires nothing but salt and black pepper.

You're nuts. Fried chicken (e.g. KFC) isn't the same as standard Chicken strips / nuggets.

I dare say good sir - you are a savage if you do not use some sort of dipping sauce!
 

whm1974

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You're nuts. Fried chicken (e.g. KFC) isn't the same as standard Chicken strips / nuggets.

I dare say good sir - you are a savage if you do not use some sort of dipping sauce!
What about chicken strips/nuggets deep fried in peanut oil?
 
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Yup, partly product packaging cost itself (maybe a penny or two more though lol) but a major factor is volume of individual products for logistics/shipping purposes. They get less "servings" or packets per unit of shipping volume with any dipping sauce as opposed to soft packet-based items like ketchup, mustard, mayo, etc.

Right - pretty much what I was thinking... Okay so instead of one of those stupid packets for ketchup it comes in a Plastic #6 (styrophome) container. Size is approx 2x the volume of the ketchup packet... I would still peg that as ONLY a 2-3c increase MAX.

I still don't get the major price increase from 1c per ketchup packet to 11c per bbq pack.

People may use more of the BBQ (I have no idea if thats true or not) but that overall doesn't have a factor in the cost of each container. If anything one can argue that if they use more BBQ packs they can ship them more in bulk.
 

whm1974

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I guess let me clarify: To my understanding - everything @ Chik-Fil-A is fried in Peanut oil - which is unlike the other fast food joints that I presume fry in vegetable oil.
I had chicken fried in peanut oil at Chinese restaurants before and I enjoy the taste.
 

ponyo

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I guess let me clarify: To my understanding - everything @ Chik-Fil-A is fried in Peanut oil - which is unlike the other fast food joints that I presume fry in vegetable oil.
Waffle fries are cooked in canola oil instead of peanut. It used to be peanut but they changed it several years ago. Only the chicken is fried in peanut oil.
 

whm1974

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Waffle fries are cooked in canola oil instead of peanut. It used to be peanut but they changed it several years ago. Only the chicken is fried in peanut oil.
Bummer as being fried in peanut oil taste a lot better.
 

JEDI

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I'll take the contrary view, and say CfA is kinda meh. The default fries suck(Didn't know you could request cooking them correctly), and the chicken is tasty, but kind of overpriced.
They do have courteous, conscientious employees, and the physical shop is always in top shape, but I don't see the need to stop in often.
overpriced compared to burgers maybe.
but McD's equivalent chicken sandwich is $3. it's on their $1/$2/$3 value menu.
cfa chicken sandwich is $3.79 in my area.

if it's on mcd's value menu then im assuming they are not making much profit on it.

if i wanted a chicken sandwich, i would gladly pay the extra .79 for the better ambiance while eating.

i also didnt know i could order the fries crispy.
will try that next time
 

zerocool84

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The waffle fries at Chic FIL A are to me akin to the fries at In N Out, very bad. I will never order the fries and just get the sandwich.
 

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I love Chik-fil-a! This is a small reason why. I dislike some of the ownership's politics and beliefs but they do right by their workers. At least the ones they hire. lol

If in the Midwest -- specifically [probably] about anywhere within a day's drive (8 hours?) of Wisconsin* -- I highly recommend checking out Culver's. Their frozen custard is amazing, good burgers, and they always have fresh cheese curds as a side! And they too have super friendly staff. They manage their drive through quite well for a cook to order place. They give you a number and they'll bring food to you, whether in your car or in the store.

* This is a rough guess, but that's generally their footprint from what I recall. I don't have one super close to me but pass by one on my travels for work often enough.

Culver's ranks way up there.
 
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rh71

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Overrated. Line was out the door when it first opened here. Food was too expensive for what we got. Near $30 for 4 of us and I was still hungry after. It was nothing special compared to other fast food. I honestly don't see why people would go a 2nd time.
 

MtnMan

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They have put the "fast" in fast food, and it's pretty tasty also. Inside or drive thru, it's amazingly fast. Looooong line at drive thru, got my food in 2 minutes or less. Inside, if you pay with cash, you get your food faster than the counter person can count out your change.
 

ponyo

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They have put the "fast" in fast food, and it's pretty tasty also. Inside or drive thru, it's amazingly fast. Looooong line at drive thru, got my food in 2 minutes or less. Inside, if you pay with cash, you get your food faster than the counter person can count out your change.
That's what makes their customer service even more amazing. All the Chick-Fil-A locations are slammed with customers from morning to night and yet they still provide amazing friendly service to everyone while keeping the stores well stocked and clean. The stores are incredibly well run and efficient. Average CFA store does almost twice the annual sales of McDonald's store while being open only 6 days a week. It's crazy if you think about it.

And the most amazing thing is the quality of the CFA food hasn't dropped or changed much over the years. I had my first Chick-Fil-A sandwich and waffle fries in 1983. Today in 2019, the Chick-Fil-A sandwich and waffle fries pretty much tastes the same as back in 1983. That's freaking amazing. Think about how crappy all other fast foods have gotten over the years due to cost cutting and ingredients change. Back in 1983, Burger King Whopper used to be great burger. Now it sucks ass and is almost inedible. Same thing with Pizza Hut pizza. Same with pretty much all fast food. But not Chick-Fil-A. The chicken breast might have gotten slightly thinner over the years but the taste hasn't changed.