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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: aidanjm

the more you eat meat, the fatter, more unhealthy, impotent, ugly & diseased you get - so <shrug> whatever. :)
Bwhahahaha...

Meat does not make you fat, eating too many calories does.

Meat is not unhealthy, an unbalanced diet is.

Meat does not make you impotent.

Meat does not make you ugly.. LOL.. WTF?

Meat does not make you diseased, an unbalanced diet does.

LOL

I honestly took his post as just a joke, but if aidanjm is serious, then he is seriously brainwashed.
 

Continuity28

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Jul 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)

I hope your children enjoy birth defects and lower than average brain masses.

actually, their more likely to enjoy entended lifespans and a lifetime of bountiful health & well-being.


Kids should eat a slight amount of meat as children to allow their brain to mature and grow. The B6 and B12 in meat allows for a healthier growth of nerves and syanpses at a young age. The protein, glucosamine, and fat also allows for a more healthy growth of muscle, bone, and skin cells. But organic, non-grain fed animals are best. Open sea fish is good if ina non-polluted environment. As they grow older and require less of this, it is healthier to start limiting meat (I am not sure about no meat) and calories. Because as was stated about. Limiting meat and calories does prolong life as you get older.

But forcing your child, especially at a very young age, to be vegan could be a form of child abuse, IMHO. You could seriously hurt there potential by limiting there nutrition like that.

and you're a trained nutritionist, qualified to give dietary advice to parents raising children?

I can say that the only child I know who has been raised as vegetarian from birth is developing much, much more slowly than normal. He's over two years old and has a vocabulary of four words. He also did not walk until well after he was one year old.

I have a friend who is vegan, and his kid is "vegan". His kid is healthy, he is only two right now, but the difference is, he is still breast-fed, so he still gets nutrients that aren't in many plants. The mother isn't vegan. I have another friend whose kid is vegan and was taken off breast feeding after his first year, and is not developing as fast as other kids. He is healthy, just not as strong or active as the other kids which is bad for his mental development added to the fact that he isn't getting the neccessary nutrients to develop quicker.

And to aidanjm, I know plenty of nutritionist, and they would recommend the same thing I just said, unless they are hardheaded and will not allow your kid to have any meat. BTW, my father is a PHD is Biochimistry and Pharmacology, plus he does homeopathic medicine & nutrition now. Before going into the Computer field, in highschool and college, I worked in the biotech industry. And I eat quite healthy as well. I know personally at least three Nutritionists because I worked in the biotech industry and the PT industry before college. Plus, eating is basically common sense. To be honest, you don't have to ask someone to know that too little or too much of one thing is bad for you.

If humans were made to eat vegatables only, then we would have evolved only molars instead of incisors and canines.

Even our intestines are not quite like a cows, nor are they like a cat's either, somewhere in the middle...

If done in moderation, there is no health issue regarding eating meat. The only views I'll really respect are those for the concern of animals, not for health. Even the ability to think in such a way to say it's immoral to eat another animal, is to possess an intelligence in which many theories state is because of meat's influence on the human brain. Mutation. :p Those theories suggest, had humans not eaten meat, we wouldn't be as advanced as we are today, it says nothing about still eating meat being good or bad, but it's interesting none the less. :p
 

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)

I hope your children enjoy birth defects and lower than average brain masses.

actually, their more likely to enjoy entended lifespans and a lifetime of bountiful health & well-being.


Kids should eat a slight amount of meat as children to allow their brain to mature and grow. The B6 and B12 in meat allows for a healthier growth of nerves and syanpses at a young age. The protein, glucosamine, and fat also allows for a more healthy growth of muscle, bone, and skin cells. But organic, non-grain fed animals are best. Open sea fish is good if ina non-polluted environment. As they grow older and require less of this, it is healthier to start limiting meat (I am not sure about no meat) and calories. Because as was stated about. Limiting meat and calories does prolong life as you get older.

But forcing your child, especially at a very young age, to be vegan could be a form of child abuse, IMHO. You could seriously hurt there potential by limiting there nutrition like that.

and you're a trained nutritionist, qualified to give dietary advice to parents raising children?

I can say that the only child I know who has been raised as vegetarian from birth is developing much, much more slowly than normal. He's over two years old and has a vocabulary of four words. He also did not walk until well after he was one year old.

I have a friend who is vegan, and his kid is "vegan". His kid is healthy, he is only two right now, but the difference is, he is still breast-fed, so he still gets nutrients that aren't in many plants. The mother isn't vegan. I have another friend whose kid is vegan and was taken off breast feeding after his first year, and is not developing as fast as other kids. He is healthy, just not as strong or active as the other kids which is bad for his mental development added to the fact that he isn't getting the neccessary nutrients to develop quicker.

And to aidanjm, I know plenty of nutritionist, and they would recommend the same thing I just said, unless they are hardheaded and will not allow your kid to have any meat. BTW, my father is a PHD is Biochimistry and Pharmacology, plus he does homeopathic medicine & nutrition now. Before going into the Computer field, in highschool and college, I worked in the biotech industry. And I eat quite healthy as well. I know personally at least three Nutritionists because I worked in the biotech industry and the PT industry before college. Plus, eating is basically common sense. To be honest, you don't have to ask someone to know that too little or too much of one thing is bad for you.

If humans were made to eat vegatables only, then we would have evolved only molars instead of incisors and canines.

Even our intestines are not quite like a cows, nor are they like a cat's either, somewhere in the middle...

If done in moderation, there is no health issue regarding eating meat. The only views I'll really respect are those for the concern of animals, not for health. Even the ability to think in such a way to say it's immoral to eat another animal, is to possess an intelligence in which many theories state is because of meat's influence on the human brain. Mutation. :p Those theories suggest, had humans not eaten meat, we wouldn't be as advanced as we are today, it says nothing about still eating meat being good or bad, but it's interesting none the less. :p

Yes, larger brains/more complex thinking ability has a lot to do with the consumption of meat. It is an excellent, readily available source of protein and fat.
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Look, I'm all for eating healthy, but.. people like you give vegans a bad name. Don't you understand that?

If you don't want to support the meat industry, that's great. But don't go spouting bullsh!t about how being vegan is a cure-all.

Meat is not evil. Humans have been eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years.

We have canine teeth. We have advanced protein digestion mechanisms.

Infact, if it weren't for our newfound vast understanding of nutrition, a vegan diet would not even be possible since those who choose such diets would pretty much wither and die of the same ailments you claim meat "causes".
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)

I hope your children enjoy birth defects and lower than average brain masses.

actually, their more likely to enjoy entended lifespans and a lifetime of bountiful health & well-being.


Kids should eat a slight amount of meat as children to allow their brain to mature and grow. The B6 and B12 in meat allows for a healthier growth of nerves and syanpses at a young age. The protein, glucosamine, and fat also allows for a more healthy growth of muscle, bone, and skin cells. But organic, non-grain fed animals are best. Open sea fish is good if ina non-polluted environment. As they grow older and require less of this, it is healthier to start limiting meat (I am not sure about no meat) and calories. Because as was stated about. Limiting meat and calories does prolong life as you get older.

But forcing your child, especially at a very young age, to be vegan could be a form of child abuse, IMHO. You could seriously hurt there potential by limiting there nutrition like that.

and you're a trained nutritionist, qualified to give dietary advice to parents raising children?

I can say that the only child I know who has been raised as vegetarian from birth is developing much, much more slowly than normal. He's over two years old and has a vocabulary of four words. He also did not walk until well after he was one year old.

I have a friend who is vegan, and his kid is "vegan". His kid is healthy, he is only two right now, but the difference is, he is still breast-fed, so he still gets nutrients that aren't in many plants. The mother isn't vegan. I have another friend whose kid is vegan and was taken off breast feeding after his first year, and is not developing as fast as other kids. He is healthy, just not as strong or active as the other kids which is bad for his mental development added to the fact that he isn't getting the neccessary nutrients to develop quicker.

And to aidanjm, I know plenty of nutritionist, and they would recommend the same thing I just said, unless they are hardheaded and will not allow your kid to have any meat. BTW, my father is a PHD is Biochimistry and Pharmacology, plus he does homeopathic medicine & nutrition now. Before going into the Computer field, in highschool and college, I worked in the biotech industry. And I eat quite healthy as well. I know personally at least three Nutritionists because I worked in the biotech industry and the PT industry before college. Plus, eating is basically common sense. To be honest, you don't have to ask someone to know that too little or too much of one thing is bad for you.

If humans were made to eat vegatables only, then we would have evolved only molars instead of incisors and canines.

Even our intestines are not quite like a cows, nor are they like a cat's either, somewhere in the middle...

If done in moderation, there is no health issue regarding eating meat. The only views I'll really respect are those for the concern of animals, not for health. Even the ability to think in such a way to say it's immoral to eat another animal, is to possess an intelligence in which many theories state is because of meat's influence on the human brain. Mutation. :p Those theories suggest, had humans not eaten meat, we wouldn't be as advanced as we are today, it says nothing about still eating meat being good or bad, but it's interesting none the less. :p

Cruelty to animals sucks, but it is a neccessary evil to eat meat. If you go to a farm, they are just as "cruel", just less unsanitary. The slaughtering of the animal is quick either way you do it. It is the keeping and feeding of the animal that is more messed up if not for "moral" reasons, at least for health reasons.
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: DaShen

Cruelty to animals sucks, but it is a neccessary evil to eat meat. If you go to a farm, they are just as "cruel", just less unsanitary. The slaughtering of the animal is quick either way you do it. It is the keeping and feeding of the animal that is more messed up if not for "moral" reasons, at least for health reasons.
Yeah.

If it really bothers you that bad, you do not have to support the huge "cruel" farms.

Buy organic.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)
You sure are quick to pass judgment, and ignorant.

Also, humans are omnivores. What does your nutritionist say about that?

Omnivores for the win.
 

Continuity28

Golden Member
Jul 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)
Also, humans are omnivores. What does your nutritionist say about that?

Omnivores for the win.

There's lots of evidence in almost every part of the human body to support this.

The groups usually bring evidence against eating meat completely, when really the evidence they show more specifically shows we can't ONLY eat meat. We "can" avoid meat altogether, but that involves using special blends and supplements that quite possibly end up worse for the human body than the meat itself. (In moderation mind you) Therefore, I don't think eating meat as it should be eaten (in moderation) is harmful at all, rather, beneficial and in fact may be necessary in human's past evolution/mutation over thousands of years.
 

JasonSix78

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Mar 5, 2005
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My girlfriend just sent me a big 'ol box of Kansas City Steakburgers. I think I'll have an extra one for aidjanmlalalala the next time I grill out.

-Jason
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
non-vegans disgust me, the only consolation, your arteries are stiff and inflexible, the meat you eat hastens your early death :)

If god didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of tasty meat.

My arteries are fine fvck you very much.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ryan
The only real meat I eat is chicken :(

I eat mostly chicken and fish. I do eat pork every once in a while and I do enjoy a tasty burger or fillet mignon every now and then. :p
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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"...urging KFC to treat the 850 million chickens who end up in its boxes and buckets each year with at least an ounce of dignity"

Yeah, lets have their names and a Obituary in the bucket for the poor little fsckers. :roll:
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Chickens are tasty.
KFC is decent, but Popeyes' is soooo much better.

That being said, I don't really give a crap about animal rights. I am indifferent towards the "feelings" of the chickens as they are prepared for the slaughter. I don't care if chickens feel pain. When someone does horrible torture to an animal, I say to myself "good thing they aren't doing that to a fellow human being." Don't get me wrong, I think it's pointless to hurt an animal just for the sake of hurting it, but if the animal is being hurt for a purpose, then I see nothing wrong with it. Furs, Skins, Food, etc ... all things that animals are usefull for, may as well use them.