Chickens raised in the Matrix

Anonemous

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http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/17737677872/food-project-proposes-raising-chickens-in-vertical

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Philosopher Paul Thompson from Purdue University has suggested “The Blind Chicken Solution.” He argues that chickens blinded by “accident” have been developed into a strain of laboratory chickens that don’t mind being crowded together as much as normal chickens do. As a result, he argues, we should consider using blind chickens in food production as a solution to the problem of overcrowding in the poultry industry. He argues that it would be more humane to have blind chickens than ones that can see.

But Ford goes a step further and proposes a “Headless Chicken Solution.” This would involve removing the cerebral cortex of the chicken to inhibit its sensory perceptions so that it could be produced in more densely packed conditions without the associated distress. The brain stem for the chicken would be kept intact so that the homeostatic functions continue to operate, allowing it to grow.

Ford proposes this solution for two reasons: To meet the rising demand for meat, particularly poultry, and to improve the welfare of the chickens by desensitizing them to the unpleasant reality of their existence.

After this “desensitization,” the chickens could then be stacked into huge urban farms with around 1,000 chickens hooked up to large vertical frames — a little like the network of pods the humans are connected to in The Matrix. The feet of the chickens would also be removed in order to pack more in. There could be dozens of these frames in the vertical farming system, which Ford refers to as the Centre for Unconscious Farming. Food, water and air would be delivered via a network of tubes and excrement would be removed in the same way. This technique could achieve a density of around 11.7 chickens per cubic meter instead of the current 3.2 chickens achieved in broiler houses.

A challenge for Ford’s system would be the lack of muscular stimulation. However, Ford proposes using electric shocks similar to that used in other lab meat experiments.

“The realities of the existing systems of production are just as shocking.” Ford argues that his solution is no more shocking than existing food-production techniques. “The realities of the existing systems of production are just as shocking,” he told Wired.co.uk, “but they are hidden behind the sentimental guise of traditional farming scenes that we as consumers hold in our minds and see on our food packaging.”

He added: “There are numerous differences between the current dominant production systems and the one I am proposing, but the fundamental difference is the removal of suffering. Whether what I am proposing is an appropriate means to achieve the removal of suffering is open to interpretation. In reality this should be decided at the level of the individual consumer, at the counter, handing over their money and ‘voting’ for their system of preference.”

Ford believes that the Headless Chicken Solution has the same intentions as the lab-grown meats we have seen developed recently. “The intentions are the same — the synthesis of animal protein without the suffering,” he says. However, he believes that the inability to synthesize blood vessels will prove to be a major challenge for those seeking to create 3-D chunks of lab meat.

The likeness to The Matrix has not gone unnoticed by Ford. “The similarities are patent, although in The Matrix the dominant species were kind enough to provide the subspecies with a alternate reality, which was far better than the their ‘real’ post-apocalyptic world,” he told us. “This was a lovely gesture by ‘The Machines,’ but the chickens in this system will not be privy to such a luxurious appendage to an already elaborate system, especially in this age of austerity.”
 

Beev

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I 100% completely, fully, absolutely support this, but I know shitty PETA will pitch a fit.
 

SlitheryDee

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I like the lobotomized chicken idea better than the blind chicken idea. The way I see it, it doesn't matter if you kill them before or after you grow them to edible size, but it does matter if you blind them and make them live their lives packed together in the darkness.
 

Beev

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Should be done to any animals we eat, honestly. Removes the inhumane aspect and leaves us with delicious meats.
 

darkewaffle

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While I think the current state of the meat industry is pretty bad, this is pretty fucked up too. I dunno, I guess it might be a net gain in that there would be less suffering; but it's treating the symptom and not the cause.
 

SagaLore

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D:

I'm going to stick with my organic non-gmo vegetarian fed cage free / free range chicken, thanks.
 

Beev

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Yeahhhhhh, we will NEVER as a species be herbivores. Ever. Too many people like meat, and as we progress we'll find ways to make it less unhealthy.

Meat is going nowhere. Send your GMO's my way.
 

darkewaffle

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Yeahhhhhh, we will NEVER as a species be herbivores. Ever. Too many people like meat, and as we progress we'll find ways to make it less unhealthy.

Meat is going nowhere. Send your GMO's my way.

I'd actually say over the progress of the past few thousand years, we've done nothing but make meat more unhealthy lol.
 

CurseTheSky

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I'm going to stick with my organic non-gmo vegetarian fed cage free / free range chicken, thanks.

I never really gave it a ton of thought, but I'm starting to lean this way as well. I agree that removing the "suffering" aspect is positive, but the actual end goal for any "improvements" like this is to render more sell-able product in a given area, thus (hopefully) making more profit.

The next step, perhaps, will be to find a way to grow chickens that are genetically engineered to not have unnecessary organs, or even bones. Since they'll be living on machines anyway and won't be moving around, those parts just get in the way of the butchering process, right?

Gross.
 

Matthiasa

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Hmm more humane and more of it... not sure the issue except that it would be stupid expensive compared to normal chicken.
Would be good for those that like white meat from chicken. (the all white meat chicken :p)

If we could find a way to just grow combination of nutrients needed for various meats such that they look and taste like meat without the having to raise an animal as a side effect of it.
They think 12 chickens per m^2 is a lot a ~m^3 of meat for every m^3 of space would be so much better. :eek:
 
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xSkyDrAx

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As horrifying as this sounds it does sound a lot better than their current conditions. People have to get over the idea of how people use to farm chicken..which we don't even do anymore really. Have to separate the idea of growing meat from actual farming.

Though it's still not something that I think they should display to the public in any consistent fashion since it WILL scare the crap out of a lot of people. They should just develop the tech, lobby the right people and get on with it. If it's more efficient/profitable and humane then I don't see there would be much opposition other than PETA(ironically) type agencies.
 

Born2bwire

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I like the lobotomized chicken idea better than the blind chicken idea. The way I see it, it doesn't matter if you kill them before or after you grow them to edible size, but it does matter if you blind them and make them live their lives packed together in the darkness.

It does sound distasteful :)awe:) but this seems like a logical progression towards the ethically neutral solution of directly growing meat cells.
 

xSkyDrAx

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I'm going to stick with my organic non-gmo vegetarian fed cage free / free range chicken, thanks.

The thing is you will NEVER meet public demands with this type of production. Sure you can have some but where will everyone else get their chicken? Am I expected to eat less chicken so you can have your 'normally' raised chicken?

People eat meat. Plain and simple and if there's a way to make more of it while lessening the current suffering of those animals then I'm all for it. We all know, more or less, the conditions that current mass production chicken are raised in so anything better than that is well better.

My only hope is that it doesn't cause all sorts of health problems for people but currently there aren't that many options of where you get your chicken from. Hopefully as the tech progresses there will be ways of making the chicken comparable to normally grown ones.
 

purbeast0

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i dont know ... someting about this seems very wrong/odd to me.

i also don't like that picture in the OP for some reason.

but then again, i eat chicken like 4-5 times a week and i don't think for 1 second how they are actually killed and prepared for me to eat. i'd turn a blind eye to pretty much any of these ideas.
 

KeithTalent

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i dont know ... someting about this seems very wrong/odd to me.

i also don't like that picture in the OP for some reason.

but then again, i eat chicken like 4-5 times a week and i don't think for 1 second how they are actually killed and prepared for me to eat. i'd turn a blind eye to pretty much any of these ideas.

All of this.

KT