Chicken nuggets to be processed in China

[PingSpike]

Why do people keep saying chicken nuggets are junk food as a justification for this? Just because some one wanted eat a chicken nugget once in awhile doesn't mean you wanted one with a falsified country of origin sticker that was was produced in a manner that allowed existing food safety regulations to be circumvented. Modern food safety standards and junk food need not be mutually exclusive.

It seems the argument is "I don't eat McDonald's food so people who bought made in USA chicken nuggets from the super market freezer after their kids begged for them deserve whatever crap they get."

 

[Jeff7]

Chicken Nuggets have always been processed food, whether it be McD's or anyone's. I don't choose to put that shit in my body....evar, nor should you. You have a choice. If you're looking to save a few cents, a bean burrito from Taco Bell is a better choice, but it's still like eating shit....just better shit, but in the end, it's all shit.

What sucks is that I'm certain we can get mass-produced foods that are still quite good and nutritious. It's just a bit easier and more profitable to add things to the food to make it pass through machinery more quickly, and worry about the health effects later - or else bury them in everything, making it more difficult to pin the blame on any one substance or company.

Besides that, the whole study of nutrition gets muddied up by people who tend to also be into BS like homeopathy or chi, as well as the industries themselves, which will supply researchers with the conclusions they need to arrive at if they're going to get anything funded or published.

 

[Juddog]

What sucks is that I'm certain we can get mass-produced foods that are still quite good and nutritious. It's just a bit easier and more profitable to add things to the food to make it pass through machinery more quickly, and worry about the health effects later - or else bury them in everything, making it more difficult to pin the blame on any one substance or company.

Besides that, the whole study of nutrition gets muddied up by people who tend to also be into BS like homeopathy or chi, as well as the industries themselves, which will supply researchers with the conclusions they need to arrive at if they're going to get anything funded or published.

I agree - recipes based on beans, for instance, can be quite healthy and yet still very cheap to produce, and still allow for American level quality control.

 

[JEDI]

surprised an injunction hasn't been issued to stop chicken from China till the lawsuits to stop chicken from China are settled.

 

[WelshBloke]

Why do people keep saying chicken nuggets are junk food as a justification for this? Just because some one wanted eat a chicken nugget once in awhile doesn't mean you wanted one with a falsified country of origin sticker that was was produced in a manner that allowed existing food safety regulations to be circumvented. Modern food safety standards and junk food need not be mutually exclusive.

It seems the argument is "I don't eat McDonald's food so people who bought made in USA chicken nuggets from the super market freezer after their kids begged for them deserve whatever crap they get."

There's a difference between nuggets made from chunks of chicken coated and fried and a slurry made from chemically treated, mechanically recovered meat that wouldn't have otherwise been fit to eat.

It just seems wierd to worry about quality when buying the second option.

 

[lxskllr]

There's a difference between nuggets made from chunks of chicken coated and fried and a slurry made from chemically treated, mechanically recovered meat that wouldn't have otherwise been fit to eat.

It just seems wierd to worry about quality when buying the second option.

There's a huge difference between 'not the healthiest choice' to 'fraudulently produced, and may cause serious health issues tomorrow'. China isn't a trusted food source. They can't even make drywall that isn't hazardous to health.

 

[Zee]

This is where the good chicken will get routed to the chinese elite and the cheap shit steroid chickens will be quietly mushed and sent back to US.

our gov't at its finest

 

[ElFenix]

There's a difference between nuggets made from chunks of chicken coated and fried and a slurry made from chemically treated, mechanically recovered meat that wouldn't have otherwise been fit to eat.

It just seems wierd to worry about quality when buying the second option.

mmm chik fil a nuggets

 

[WelshBloke]

There's a huge difference between 'not the healthiest choice' to 'fraudulently produced, and may cause serious health issues tomorrow'. China isn't a trusted food source. They can't even make drywall that isn't hazardous to health.

I'd argue that "pink slime" nuggets fall into the second category wherever they are made. I think it's too easy to use the "OMG China!" argument and ignore the crap we are prepared to put up with as long as we do it.

 

[lxskllr]

I'd argue that "pink slime" nuggets fall into the second category wherever they are made. I think it's too easy to use the "OMG China!" argument and ignore the crap we are prepared to put up with as long as we do it.

Any reports of pink slime harming someone? It might not be pleasant to see, and is made with the crappiest parts of the animal, but it won't kill you.

It's not even a question of industrial accidents, where bacteria gets introduced to the processing. Chinese companies fraudulently add unsafe ingredients to cut cost. They're also more likely to have 'accidents' due to lax oversight.

Aside from all of that, fuck China. We give them enough of our money, and the only reason we haven't rocketed them to oblivion is they'd kick our asses. Human rights abuses are A-OK as long as an American company is getting money from the deal :^S

 

[Broheim]

wasn't it recently that quite a few pets died from tainted treats made in China.

 

[ElFenix]

wasn't it recently that quite a few pets died from tainted treats made in China.

yes. made of chicken

 

[Broheim]

yes. made of chicken

and we're now putting them in charge of chicken nuggets...

 

[PingSpike]

I'd argue that "pink slime" nuggets fall into the second category wherever they are made. I think it's too easy to use the "OMG China!" argument and ignore the crap we are prepared to put up with as long as we do it.

And I think you're missing the point intentionally. If you purchase a product that states it's country of origin is the United States you expect it (quite reasonably) to adhere to that country's food regulations. And if it didn't and caused a problem that country's regulatory body could correct the behavior and there would be a domestic entity that could be made responsible for the consequences. That is important to some people and the knowledge can be denied to them in this instance. Worse really, products will essentially have a falsified label to everyone who has not studied the nuanced details.

Moreover, the laundering of foodstuffs is unlikely to remain only in the realm of the much reviled "pink slime" nuggets and will surely be extended to other items. Assuming it hasn't already, which I'd be surprised if it hasn't.

 

[Engineer]

Senators contacted. Might start a petition on Change.org.

 

[Zee]

which is better to start. change.org? or is it that petition whitehouse gov thing that asks the administration to respond once there is enough signatures

 

[sdifox]

maybe I should start a website selling Canadian food made with locally sourced ingredients to Americans :biggrin:

 

[Nintendesert]

Why do people keep saying chicken nuggets are junk food as a justification for this? Just because some one wanted eat a chicken nugget once in awhile doesn't mean you wanted one with a falsified country of origin sticker that was was produced in a manner that allowed existing food safety regulations to be circumvented. Modern food safety standards and junk food need not be mutually exclusive.

It seems the argument is "I don't eat McDonald's food so people who bought made in USA chicken nuggets from the super market freezer after their kids begged for them deserve whatever crap they get."

Exactly this. Anyone dismissing this because they don't like nuggets are short sighted fuckstains that don't realize this is going to be like all the other industries China has inroads on. They're going to start processing more than just nuggets and eventually it's going to be something everyone likes and then it will be something we can't get away from. Our food is one horrible industry to start turning over to China.

 

[Engineer]

Exactly this. Anyone dismissing this because they don't like nuggets are short sighted fuckstains that don't realize this is going to be like all the other industries China has inroads on. They're going to start processing more than just nuggets and eventually it's going to be something everyone likes and then it will be something we can't get away from. Our food is one horrible industry to start turning over to China.

From a safety standpoint and a jobs standpoint, I agree 100000000000000000%.

 

[Svnla]

In other news, China is planning to send plenty of cheap and nutritious fish to the US.

Their source of fish = http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/w...-killed-by-waste-from-chinese-plant.html?_r=0

 

[TheAdvocate]

Exactly this. Anyone dismissing this because they don't like nuggets are short sighted fuckstains that don't realize this is going to be like all the other industries China has inroads on. They're going to start processing more than just nuggets and eventually it's going to be something everyone likes and then it will be something we can't get away from. Our food is one horrible industry to start turning over to China.

Yes. Call your reps. Stop this.

 

[Jeff7]

maybe I should start a website selling Canadian food made with locally sourced ingredients to Americans :biggrin:

Works for me.

(It's more likely than us doing anything psychotically destructive...like producing things in our own country and minding our trade deficit.)

 

[drinkmorejava]

This is why I literally only buy honey from people in my area that collect it from their own bee hives. I have to pay a bit more, but I know the crap in the major stores only has a 50/50 chance of being real honey.

Can you explain the honey thing. Why do I care if there is no pollen? It doesn't sound any different than buying skim milk. Is skim milk not milk because it has been filtered and heated up?

 

[lxskllr]

Can you explain the honey thing. Why do I care if there is no pollen? It doesn't sound any different than buying skim milk. Is skim milk not milk because it has been filtered and heated up?

No pollen means you can't ID it's place of origin. There may be health benefits associated with "impurities" also, but in the context it's the ID that matters.

 

[Jeff7]

No pollen means you can't ID it's place of origin. There may be health benefits associated with "impurities" also, but in the context it's the ID that matters.

And as I understand it, "honey" must have pollen in it if it is to be labeled as such.