Chick at work is pregnant and is still smoking

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Maybe because it's their life?

MYOB

Actually, it's not just her life. Her baby is beyond the threshold where the fetus is now considered alive. The OP should be able to press charges against the mom for damages done to the baby inside her.

:roll:

First he'd have to prove it, as the percentages I posted showed that harm is in NO way sure, and only happens in very low numbers.

That's true, but why ban drunk driving since not every episode results in death or injury?

What other controls will you put on pregnant mothers, since nearly everything they do can have an effect on the child?

Nutritional restrictions?

Activity restrictions?

Do you see the slippery slope you are jumping blindly onto?

 

[thirdlegstump]

There's really no adverse effects on babies from smoking while pregnant. My mom was a heavy smoker when she was pregnant with me same with my gf's grandparents. Personally I think it's bs.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
lol let her suffer, she's going to end up with a fvcked baby. Not your body or your child, why worry, laugh at their wrong choices and suffering. That's how I feel when I see ppl buying cigarettes everyday. Not to be mean, that's reality

The ignorance is amazing.

There is an increased, but still VERY LOW chance of decreased birth weight in mothers that smoke. The vast, VAST majority of babies born to mothers who smoke during pregnancy are just fine.

It is simply amazing what propaganda will do.

Facts:

In 1998, 12 percent of babies born to smokers in the U.S. were of low birth weight, compared to 7.2 percent of babies of nonsmokers.

Cigarette smoking also appears to double a woman's risk of developing placental complications (which occur in about 1 percent of pregnancies).

Is it a good idea to smoke during pregnancy? Of course not.

But is it the end of the fscking world? No. Doubling an already low risk means that the risk, while higher, is still LOW.

Even if the the occurence of having a messed up baby while smoking is 1 % (from the quote you provided) , but still the numbers add up over time, and many of these babies suffered, so as their mothers.

Sh!t happens. Again, maybe the stress of quitting is a far higher danger than the low chance of harm from smoking.

In the end, it's none of your fscking business.

Did I said that earlier, of the none of your fvcking business sh!t?

Yes, but first you posted some ignorant apocalyptic sh!t about her baby being fscked up for sure.

Is that wrong to voice out my opinion, honestly her baby will be messed up.

Again, the odds are against your ignorant assumtion.

🙂 that's why i'm majoring in medicine, loving every minute of it.

 

[exilera]

Originally posted by: OBW96
My wife was just talking about something like this. Some lady who works with her was prego and smoking. Baby was born early and died.

Some people are idiots.

Wow, I really hope that lady feels like sh*t the rest of her life.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
There's really no adverse effects on babies from smoking while pregnant. My mom was a heavy smoker when she was pregnant with me same with my gf's grandparents. Personally I think it's bs.

your one of the lucky ones 🙂

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Amused

What other controls will you put on pregnant mothers, since nearly everything they do can have an effect on the child?

Nutritional restrictions?

Activity restrictions?

Do you see the slippery slope you are jumping blindly onto?

Smoking while pregnant will never help a baby.

Sometimes doctors order certains foods (which may not be good normally) into a pregnant Mom's diet to counteract something else. Same with activity or lack thereof.

They are different.

Your argument is simply that the percentages are so small. From your argument, firing a gun straight into the air shouldn't be illegal since the chances of hitting someone are so small.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
There's really no adverse effects on babies from smoking while pregnant. My mom was a heavy smoker when she was pregnant with me same with my gf's grandparents. Personally I think it's bs.

In your case, there wasn't. Doesn't means it's true in all cases.

 

[GasX]

Oh boy, another smoking nazi group hug pile on thread... :roll:

Breaking an incredibly addictive habit like smoking is not easy. It is unlikely that this woman is unaware that smoking is bad for her and her developing baby. You have no idea whether or not she is trying to quit. Anything you have to say on the matter is innappropriate and inordinately rude.

It's not your life. It's not your baby. STFU and judge not lest ye be judged.

 

[xSauronx]

a chick at work just had a baby, she smoked the whole time.

lucky for the baby it was healthy. i was surprised.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: Amused

What other controls will you put on pregnant mothers, since nearly everything they do can have an effect on the child?

Nutritional restrictions?

Activity restrictions?

Do you see the slippery slope you are jumping blindly onto?

Smoking while pregnant will never help a baby.

Sometimes doctors order certains foods (which may not be good normally) into a pregnant Mom's diet to counteract something else. Same with activity or lack thereof.

They are different.

Your argument is simply that the percentages are so small. From your argument, firing a gun straight into the air shouldn't be illegal since the chances of hitting someone are so small.

A doctor's order is not "law."

Apples and oranges.

Again, where does it stop? Is not the woman's body her own?

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Oh boy, another smoking nazi group hug pile on thread... :roll:

Breaking an incredibly addictive habit like smoking is not easy. It is unlikely that this woman is unaware that smoking is bad for her and her developing baby. You have no idea whether or not she is trying to quit. Anything you have to say on the matter is innappropriate and inordinately rude.

It's not your life. It's not your baby. STFU and judge not lest ye be judged.

I've never said it was easy to stop smoking, nor have I said she shouldn't smoke (just not while pregnant), but that baby has no choice in the matter and while I can't say it is going to hurt the baby, I can definitely say it won't help and it may hurt.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, where does it stop? Is not the woman's body her own?

This is where I have a problem. My wife and I talk about this all the time and it is her body and she should be able to do with it what she wants. In order to make smoking illegal while pregnant we would need a lot more evidence as to the effect it has on the fetus.

It doesn't change the fact that if something does go wrong with the baby and it can be proven to be a result of the smoking, then she should be charged with the appropriate crime.

It would be an interesting situation - it's not illegal unless something goes wrong and then it becomes illegal. Is there anything else like it?

That is why this is such a heated discussion 🙂

 

[raildogg]

many people i work with also smoke.

they say that they don't smoke after work as much. they also say that smoking keeps them distracted

i've been smoking like 1 cigarette every 2 days now. not good

 

[DaShen]

Get CPS on her. That is just grossly irresponsible.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: xSauronx
a chick at work just had a baby, she smoked the whole time.

lucky for the baby it was healthy. i was surprised.

Why?

Read the literature (not the BS Tom Cruise reads) and you will see that there is a correlation between smoking and a number of pregnancy / birth wieght issues. Like a bazillion other things in this world it increases the risk of some bad things happening from highly unlikely to mostly unlikely. It is not something that direclty leads to inevitable problems.

Should women smoke during pregnancy? No.

Will women smoke during pregnancy? Yes, and unless it is your blood relative, you have ZERO say in the matter.

Based on the attitudes displayed in this and other anti-smoking threads, I am going to predict that in 10 years, smokers will be shot on site. Anyone drinking caffeinated beverages will be arrested. Anyone drinking more than 2 8oz glasses of sugary soda or juice will be forced into rehab. And anyone not eating a bran muffin for breakfast will be ticketed.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: Amused
Again, where does it stop? Is not the woman's body her own?

This is where I have a problem. My wife and I talk about this all the time and it is her body and she should be able to do with it what she wants. In order to make smoking illegal while pregnant we would need a lot more evidence as to the effect it has on the fetus.

That is why this is such a heated discussion 🙂

We have all the evidence we need. It doubles already low risks.

But that's irrelevant. What you want is to control what a woman does with her own body, to make yourself feel better.

It's a VERY dangerous and sliipery slope, and you don;t even seem to notice.

Future headlines in Jax's world:

Springfield Woman Arrested and Jailed for Watching Horror Movie While Pregnant.

Chicago Woman Jailed for Eating McDonalds While Pregnant

Shelbyville Woman, 7 Months Pregnant, Held in Protective Custody for Suffering Too Much Work Related Stress

 

[KMFJD]

And wtf would CPS be able to do? Nothing since it is not illegal...stop wasting time telling others what to do and MYOB

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Amused

We have all the evidence we need. It doubles already low risks.

But that's irrelevant. What you want is to control what a woman does with her own body, to make yourself feel better.

It's a VERY dangerous and sliipery slope, and you don;t even seem to notice.

Slippery slope is an interesting argument because there are plenty of things we can't inject/insert into our bodies (pregnant or otherwise) that are very similar.

If slippery slope were true than we wouldn't be able to drink alcohol in copious amounts or smoke to our heart's content.

It has nothing to do with making me feel better because whether that child contracts lung diseases or is born too early is or stillborn won't affect me in the least. In fact I could care less about that child since his/her mom seems to as well.

I am taking this stance since negative outcomes are clearly foreseeable and therefore are no different than other situations (which are punishable by law) which have similar foreseeable outcomes.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: MetalMat
I would say she is about 4-6 months pregnant and is still smoking every day :| I always wanna tell her something about it but I doubt she will listen to me......

That really irritates me, why do fvckin 80% of the people I work with smoke :| :|

say something.
so what if she bitches back. it will still make her think.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so what if she bitches back. it will still make her think.

You are a nosy bitch who can mind her own fvcking business.

I know that was unwarranted and you are going to bitch about my post, but at least it will make you think...

 

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so what if she bitches back. it will still make her think.

You are a nosy bitch who can mind her own fvcking business.

I know that was unwarranted and you are going to bitch about my post, but at least it will make you think...

pwned! :beer:

 

[slycat]

Originally posted by: OBW96
My wife was just talking about something like this. Some lady who works with her was prego and smoking. Baby was born early and died.

Some people are idiots.

thats prolly her point ...and the point of the woman mentioned by the OP.

 

[shilala]

If you don't want to say something to her, give me her phone number and I will.
I'd love to.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so what if she bitches back. it will still make her think.

You are a nosy bitch who can mind her own fvcking business.

I know that was unwarranted and you are going to bitch about my post, but at least it will make you think...

pwned! :beer:

Bwhahahaha

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: shuan24

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so what if she bitches back. it will still make her think.

You are a nosy bitch who can mind her own fvcking business.

I know that was unwarranted and you are going to bitch about my post, but at least it will make you think...

pwned! :beer:

Bwhahahaha

Nice :beer: