Chess Legend Bobby Fischer says U.S. is "Evil" 3-25-05

[dmcowen674]

I didn't know any details of this story when it first broke 9 months ago. Based on the Media headlines it was made out that Fischer was some sort of a Terrist. That he had crossed to the other side. Looks like the Republican Brainwashing had some effect on me before the Election too.

3-25-2005 Chess Legend Bobby Fischer: U.S. Is 'Evil'

"They talk about the axis of evil. What about the allies of evil ... the United States, England, Japan, Australia? These are the evildoers," Fischer said.

He thanked his "wonderful friends" in Iceland, which granted him citizenship after he was held in Japan on a U.S. extradition warrant.

Fischer was freed early Thursday after nine months' detention for trying to leave Japan using an invalid U.S. passport. Japan agreed to release him after he accepted Iceland's offer of citizenship.

Fischer railed against the governments of Japan and the United States, calling Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi "mentally ill" and a "stooge" of President Bush.

"This was a kidnapping because the charges that the Japanese charged me with are totally nonsense," he told Associated Press Television News on the flight.

On Friday, he again declared himself an unrepentant enemy of the "hypocritical and corrupt" United States, which he claims organized his "judicial kidnapping."

"They decided Fischer had to go to prison. He had to be destroyed ... they decided to cook up whatever charges they cooked up," he told reporters.

Fischer, 62, was wanted by the United States for violating sanctions imposed on the former Yugoslavia by playing an exhibition match against the Soviet Union's Boris Spassky there in 1992. He had fought deportation since he was detained by Japanese officials last July

The United States has an extradition treaty with Iceland, and could still try to have Fischer deported.

If convicted of violating U.S. sanctions imposed to punish then-President Slobodan Milosevic, Fischer could face 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

His Icelandic supporters vow that won't happen.

"I think he is safe now," said Thorstein Matthiasson, 39. "We have more courage than the Japanese."

 

[Schrodinger]

Ever listen to that interview/commentary he did on some foreign radio station (its a few years old I believe). Its quite funny and worth listening to if you can find it online. He comes across quite delusional and schizo.

 

[Aegeon]

I'm going to quote from an article written awhile ago that gives you an idea just how crazy Bobby Fischer is now. I suggest you read the full article if you want to really get an idea of the extent of his paranoia.

Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame

Paranoia, hubris, and hatred--the unraveling of the greatest chess player ever.

Bobby Fischer was singing the blues. As he wailed along with a 1965 recording by Jackie ("Mr. Excitement") Wilson, his voice--a gravelly baritone ravaged by age but steeled by anger--rumbled through the microphone like a broken-down freight train on rusty wheels: "You go walking down Broadway, watchin' people catch the subway I Take it from me, don't ask for a helping hand, mmm, 'cause no one will understand!" With each note he became increasingly strident. "Bright lights will find you, and they will mess you around! Let me tell you, millions will watch you! Have mercy now, as you sink right down to the ground!" Even if you knew nothing about Bobby Fischer, listening to him sing this song would tell you all you needed to know. "There just ain't no pity. No, no, no, in the naked city, yeah-New York City."

This unlikely duet, featuring Jackie Wilson and the world's first and only chess grand master fugitive from justice, was broadcast live, on July 6, 2001, by DZSR Sports Radio, a Manila-based AM station that has embraced Fischer as a ratings booster. In exchange for these rare interviews (Fischer hasn't given a magazine or TV interview in thirty years), Sports Radio management has happily provided Fischer with hours of free airtime to spin his classic R&B records and to lash out at his enemies, both real and imagined. Fischer categorizes these enemies-including the former New York mayor Ed Koch, both Presidents Bush, and the Times Mirror Corporation--as "Jews, secret Jews, or CIA rats who work for the Jews."

This radio broadcast was Fischer's seventeenth in the Philippines. The bizarre karaoke interlude was a departure of sorts, but otherwise the broadcast was no different from the previous sixteen. Fischer's talking points never vary.

* Bobby Fischer is being persecuted by world Jewry.

* The United States government is a "brutal, evil dictatorship" that has falsely accused Bobby Fischer of a crime and forced him to live in exile.

* Bobby Fischer has been swindled out of a "vast fortune" in royalties by book publishers, movie studios, and clock manufacturers (yes, clock manufacturers), who have brazenly pilfered his brand name, patents, and copyrights.

* The Jews are a "filthy, lying bastard people" bent on world domination through such insidious schemes as the Holocaust ("a money-making invention"), the mass murder of Christian children ("their blood is used for black- magic ceremonies"), and junk food (William Rosenberg, the founder of Dunkin' Donuts, is singled out as a culprit)...

The No. 1 transgression, however, the thing that has devastated Fischer embittered him, and made him screech at night, alone in his apartment, is the "Bekins heist."

* Millions of dollars' worth of personal memorabilia, painstakingly collected and stockpiled by Bobby Fischer in a ten-by-ten- foot Bekins storage room in Pasadena, California, has been stolen from him in a secret plot involving the Rothschilds (Jews), Bill Clinton (a secret Jew), and unnamed Bekins executives (CIA rats who work for the Jews)...

But even the Fischer apologists had to throw up their hands when he took to the Philippine airwaves on September 11, 2001. In an interview broadcast this time by Bombo Radyo, a small public-radio station in Baguio City, Fischer revealed views so loathsome that it was impossible to indulge him any longer. Just hours after the most devastating attack on the United States in history, in which thousands had died, Fischer could barely contain his delight. "This is all wonderful news," he announced. "I applaud the act. The U.S. and Israel have been slaughtering the Palestinians, just slaughtering them for years. Robbing them and slaughtering them. Nobody gave a s*it. Now it's coming back to the U.S. F**k the U.S. I want to see the U.S. wiped out."

Fischer added that the events of September 11 provided the ideal opportunity to stage a long-overdue coup d'état. He envisioned, he said, a "Seven Days in May scenario," with the country taken over by the military; he also hoped to see all its synagogues closed, and hundreds of thousands of Jews executed. " Ultimately the white man should leave the United States and the black people should go back to Africa," he said. "The white people should go back to Europe, and the country should be returned to the American Indians. This is the future I would like to see for the so-called United States." Before signing off Fischer cried out, " Death to the U.S.!"

http://www.chessmaniac.com/Bobby_Fischer/Bobby_Fischer_Articles40.shtm

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Aegeon
I'm going to quote from an article written awhile ago that gives you an idea just how crazy Bobby Fischer is now. I suggest you read the full article if you want to really get an idea of the extent of his paranoia.

Bobby Fischer's Pathetic Endgame

Paranoia, hubris, and hatred--the unraveling of the greatest chess player ever.

Bobby Fischer was singing the blues. As he wailed along with a 1965 recording by Jackie ("Mr. Excitement") Wilson, his voice--a gravelly baritone ravaged by age but steeled by anger--rumbled through the microphone like a broken-down freight train on rusty wheels: "You go walking down Broadway, watchin' people catch the subway I Take it from me, don't ask for a helping hand, mmm, 'cause no one will understand!" With each note he became increasingly strident. "Bright lights will find you, and they will mess you around! Let me tell you, millions will watch you! Have mercy now, as you sink right down to the ground!" Even if you knew nothing about Bobby Fischer, listening to him sing this song would tell you all you needed to know. "There just ain't no pity. No, no, no, in the naked city, yeah-New York City."

This unlikely duet, featuring Jackie Wilson and the world's first and only chess grand master fugitive from justice, was broadcast live, on July 6, 2001, by DZSR Sports Radio, a Manila-based AM station that has embraced Fischer as a ratings booster. In exchange for these rare interviews (Fischer hasn't given a magazine or TV interview in thirty years), Sports Radio management has happily provided Fischer with hours of free airtime to spin his classic R&B records and to lash out at his enemies, both real and imagined. Fischer categorizes these enemies-including the former New York mayor Ed Koch, both Presidents Bush, and the Times Mirror Corporation--as "Jews, secret Jews, or CIA rats who work for the Jews."

This radio broadcast was Fischer's seventeenth in the Philippines. The bizarre karaoke interlude was a departure of sorts, but otherwise the broadcast was no different from the previous sixteen. Fischer's talking points never vary.

* Bobby Fischer is being persecuted by world Jewry.

* The United States government is a "brutal, evil dictatorship" that has falsely accused Bobby Fischer of a crime and forced him to live in exile.

* Bobby Fischer has been swindled out of a "vast fortune" in royalties by book publishers, movie studios, and clock manufacturers (yes, clock manufacturers), who have brazenly pilfered his brand name, patents, and copyrights.

* The Jews are a "filthy, lying bastard people" bent on world domination through such insidious schemes as the Holocaust ("a money-making invention"), the mass murder of Christian children ("their blood is used for black- magic ceremonies"), and junk food (William Rosenberg, the founder of Dunkin' Donuts, is singled out as a culprit)...

The No. 1 transgression, however, the thing that has devastated Fischer embittered him, and made him screech at night, alone in his apartment, is the "Bekins heist."

* Millions of dollars' worth of personal memorabilia, painstakingly collected and stockpiled by Bobby Fischer in a ten-by-ten- foot Bekins storage room in Pasadena, California, has been stolen from him in a secret plot involving the Rothschilds (Jews), Bill Clinton (a secret Jew), and unnamed Bekins executives (CIA rats who work for the Jews)...

But even the Fischer apologists had to throw up their hands when he took to the Philippine airwaves on September 11, 2001. In an interview broadcast this time by Bombo Radyo, a small public-radio station in Baguio City, Fischer revealed views so loathsome that it was impossible to indulge him any longer. Just hours after the most devastating attack on the United States in history, in which thousands had died, Fischer could barely contain his delight. "This is all wonderful news," he announced. "I applaud the act. The U.S. and Israel have been slaughtering the Palestinians, just slaughtering them for years. Robbing them and slaughtering them. Nobody gave a s*it. Now it's coming back to the U.S. F**k the U.S. I want to see the U.S. wiped out."

Fischer added that the events of September 11 provided the ideal opportunity to stage a long-overdue coup d'état. He envisioned, he said, a "Seven Days in May scenario," with the country taken over by the military; he also hoped to see all its synagogues closed, and hundreds of thousands of Jews executed. " Ultimately the white man should leave the United States and the black people should go back to Africa," he said. "The white people should go back to Europe, and the country should be returned to the American Indians. This is the future I would like to see for the so-called United States." Before signing off Fischer cried out, " Death to the U.S.!"

http://www.chessmaniac.com/Bobby_Fischer/Bobby_Fischer_Articles40.shtm

Careful, he has friends here!

 

[kylebisme]

I'm not trying to defend the guy here, as I don't really know enough about him or his situation to argue the topic. But this struck me as really ignorant:

Originally posted by: Condor

* Bobby Fischer has been swindled out of a "vast fortune" in royalties by book publishers, movie studios, and clock manufacturers (yes, clock manufacturers), who have brazenly pilfered his brand name, patents, and copyrights.

The guy was a chess champion, it is far from unlikely that he may have had licencing agreements with clock manufacturers. I mean it takes a pretty stupid person to not make the connection to the special clocks used in competitive chess; rather taints the credibility of the article.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
The guy was a chess champion, it is far from unlikely that he may have had licencing agreements with clock manufacturers. I mean it takes a pretty stupid person to not make the connection to the special clocks used in competitive chess; rather taints the credibility of the article.

While that might a fairly accurate criticism, the rest of the article is extremely well researched. The author goes into detail about how his "Bekins heist" is a figment of Fischer's imigination with only a vague resemblance to reality.

The article was written by By Rene Chun and originally published in Atlantic Monthly, Dec 2002, Vol. 290 Issue 5.

 

[CycloWizard]

What's the point of prosecuting someone for violating sanctions against a country that no longer exists? How ridiculous.

Anyone know if he still plays chess? Doesn't sound like it, but it would be interesting to see him go up against Kasparov and the new chess computers.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I'm not trying to defend the guy here, as I don't really know enough about him or his situation to argue the topic. But this struck me as really ignorant:

Originally posted by: Condor

* Bobby Fischer has been swindled out of a "vast fortune" in royalties by book publishers, movie studios, and clock manufacturers (yes, clock manufacturers), who have brazenly pilfered his brand name, patents, and copyrights.

The guy was a chess champion, it is far from unlikely that he may have had licencing agreements with clock manufacturers. I mean it takes a pretty stupid person to not make the connection to the special clocks used in competitive chess; rather taints the credibility of the article.

Apparently you have never seen or used a Fischer Chess Tournament Clock.

Just do a search and the web is full of them using Fischers name.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I'm not trying to defend the guy here, as I don't really know enough about him or his situation to argue the topic. But this struck me as really ignorant:

Originally posted by: Condor

* Bobby Fischer has been swindled out of a "vast fortune" in royalties by book publishers, movie studios, and clock manufacturers (yes, clock manufacturers), who have brazenly pilfered his brand name, patents, and copyrights.

The guy was a chess champion, it is far from unlikely that he may have had licencing agreements with clock manufacturers. I mean it takes a pretty stupid person to not make the connection to the special clocks used in competitive chess; rather taints the credibility of the article.

Apparently you have never seen or used a Fischer Chess Tournament Clock.

Just do a search and the web is full of them using Fischers name.

I think that was his point...

:roll:

Bobby Fischer broke US law & refuses to accept the consequences.

Whether you agree with the law or not has no bearing on whether or not you are subject to it. He made his choice, & can now live with the consequences.

He was detained by Japan for having an invalid passport, nothing more. It's his own stupid fault for trying to travel.

Viper GTS

 

[Red Dawn]

Any funds spent by our government trying to get him deported and prosecuted are a colossal waste of money IMO

 

[fornax]

Viper, I wouldn't mind our administration trying to get hold of Fischer --- laws are laws, after all --- as long as the Bush senior and Clinton administration officials (including probably him) who broke exactly the same sanctions by delivering weapons and money to Croatia and Bosnia are indicted and subject to the same prosecuratorial vigor that Bobby Fischer is.

On one hand, we have an individual who broke the sanctions; on the other hand, we have the whole US administration who did the same. Where is the indignation, indictiments, jailed officials? Not to mention that a lot of our financial and material help at that time went through Al-Qaida and various unsavory groups who were arming the Bosnian muslims.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
What's the point of prosecuting someone for violating sanctions against a country that no longer exists? How ridiculous.

Anyone know if he still plays chess? Doesn't sound like it, but it would be interesting to see him go up against Kasparov and the new chess computers.

he still plays, something called Fischer Random, the pawns are at their normal place but the rest of the peaces are distributed randomly on the first row. No longer can people predict the game from the start.

but yes, the man is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaazy

edt.
think I remember Kasparov liking Fischers version and the both of them wanted it to be come an official chess version with championships and everything

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: fornax
Viper, I wouldn't mind our administration trying to get hold of Fischer --- laws are laws, after all --- as long as the Bush senior and Clinton administration officials (including probably him) who broke exactly the same sanctions by delivering weapons and money to Croatia and Bosnia are indicted and subject to the same prosecuratorial vigor that Bobby Fischer is.

On one hand, we have an individual who broke the sanctions; on the other hand, we have the whole US administration who did the same. Where is the indignation, indictiments, jailed officials? Not to mention that a lot of our financial and material help at that time went through Al-Qaida and various unsavory groups who were arming the Bosnian muslims.

:thumbsup:

 

[arsbanned]

Sadly, there is truth in what the man says.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Sadly, there is truth in what the man says.

Yeah, especially when he discusses 9/11.

Oh wait, no. That disqualifies just about everything he says. Sorry.

 

[arsbanned]

I'm referring to the abuse of power the U.S. has employed in trying to destroy him.

 

[Jadow]

we should send Deep Blue after him.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: fornax
Viper, I wouldn't mind our administration trying to get hold of Fischer --- laws are laws, after all --- as long as the Bush senior and Clinton administration officials (including probably him) who broke exactly the same sanctions by delivering weapons and money to Croatia and Bosnia are indicted and subject to the same prosecuratorial vigor that Bobby Fischer is.

On one hand, we have an individual who broke the sanctions; on the other hand, we have the whole US administration who did the same. Where is the indignation, indictiments, jailed officials? Not to mention that a lot of our financial and material help at that time went through Al-Qaida and various unsavory groups who were arming the Bosnian muslims.

Ah, yes, because the lily-white virginial Serbs were persecuted into committing the genocide that is proven beyond any doubt. Nevertheless, the situation in the Balkans is too complex to even bother debating here, especially with the witch-hunt mentality of the fvckwits like the OP.

 

[kage69]

Ah, yes, because the lily-white virginial Serbs were persecuted into committing the genocide that is proven beyond any doubt. Nevertheless, the situation in the Balkans is too complex to even bother debating here, especially with the witch-hunt mentality of the fvckwits like the OP.

Your ad hom ladden retort disproves the hypocrisy involved, how exactly? The Balkans isn't the issue, the selective application of the law is.

 

[NightTrain]

Fischer is a loon.

"But I'm hoping for the Seven Days in May scenario, where sane people will take over the U.S., military people. They will imprison the Jews, they will execute several hundred thousand of them at least."

Fischer: I think the Jews want to drive the elephants to extinction, because the trunk of the elephant reminds them of an uncircumcised penis.

Interviewer: Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Fischer: No really, I am absolutely serious about that.

 

[StageLeft]

If that article is true, the guy needs meds, STAT!

 

[mordantmonkey]

i'm not a chess master by any means, but i get tired of people playing with the same tired old openings. i enjoy fischer random a lot more. keeps the game interesting and makes it much more challenging.

on another note, why the hell is the US gov't wasting it's time on this. don't they have more baseball players to subpoena?

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't know any details of this story when it first broke 9 months ago. Based on the Media headlines it was made out that Fischer was some sort of a Terrist. That he had crossed to the other side. Looks like the Republican Brainwashing had some effect on me before the Election too.

3-25-2005 Chess Legend Bobby Fischer: U.S. Is 'Evil'

"They talk about the axis of evil. What about the allies of evil ... the United States, England, Japan, Australia? These are the evildoers," Fischer said.

He thanked his "wonderful friends" in Iceland, which granted him citizenship after he was held in Japan on a U.S. extradition warrant.

Fischer was freed early Thursday after nine months' detention for trying to leave Japan using an invalid U.S. passport. Japan agreed to release him after he accepted Iceland's offer of citizenship.

Fischer railed against the governments of Japan and the United States, calling Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi "mentally ill" and a "stooge" of President Bush.

"This was a kidnapping because the charges that the Japanese charged me with are totally nonsense," he told Associated Press Television News on the flight.

On Friday, he again declared himself an unrepentant enemy of the "hypocritical and corrupt" United States, which he claims organized his "judicial kidnapping."

"They decided Fischer had to go to prison. He had to be destroyed ... they decided to cook up whatever charges they cooked up," he told reporters.

Fischer, 62, was wanted by the United States for violating sanctions imposed on the former Yugoslavia by playing an exhibition match against the Soviet Union's Boris Spassky there in 1992. He had fought deportation since he was detained by Japanese officials last July

The United States has an extradition treaty with Iceland, and could still try to have Fischer deported.

If convicted of violating U.S. sanctions imposed to punish then-President Slobodan Milosevic, Fischer could face 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

His Icelandic supporters vow that won't happen.

"I think he is safe now," said Thorstein Matthiasson, 39. "We have more courage than the Japanese."

He's a nutjob.

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: NightTrain
Fischer: I think the Jews want to drive the elephants to extinction, because the trunk of the elephant reminds them of an uncircumcised penis.

Interviewer: Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Fischer: No really, I am absolutely serious about that.

That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. This man is truely insane.