Cheney repeats lie about Abu Ghraib

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retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Obama repeats lies...... or he's still confused or both.

Do you ever post anything in any thread without coming out of left field, changing the subject and bashing Obama, or just the left in general? The funny thing is you dont even bring in facts, links, or even relevant opinion, you just place a quick insult... usually off topic.

Read the thread title. Say something relevant or STFU.
 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Cheney should step down as VP immediately... oh wait.

Yet the ATPN conservatives still quote him as a reliable source on torture and the iraq war :confused:

And Obama and anyone in his Administration are credible sources? None of those Nancies know anything about war other than what CNN feeds them.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Cheney should step down as VP immediately... oh wait.

Yet the ATPN conservatives still quote him as a reliable source on torture and the iraq war :confused:

And Obama and anyone in his Administration are credible sources? None of those Nancies know anything about war other than what CNN feeds them.

Rahm Emanuel knows 8 ways to kill you with his pinky toe.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Cheney should step down as VP immediately... oh wait.

Yet the ATPN conservatives still quote him as a reliable source on torture and the iraq war :confused:

And Obama and anyone in his Administration are credible sources? None of those Nancies know anything about war other than what CNN feeds them.

I posted a thread a while back about an FBI agent who was involved in interrogations who testified against Cheney's assertions that waterboarding gave us useful intelligence and against the general usefulness about waterboarding. Obviously an Obama crony. Are you an idiot? (don't answer that)
 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Cheney should step down as VP immediately... oh wait.

Yet the ATPN conservatives still quote him as a reliable source on torture and the iraq war :confused:

And Obama and anyone in his Administration are credible sources? None of those Nancies know anything about war other than what CNN feeds them.

I posted a thread a while back about an FBI agent who was involved in interrogations who testified against Cheney's assertions that waterboarding gave us useful intelligence and against the general usefulness about waterboarding. Obviously an Obama crony. Are you an idiot? (don't answer that)
Obama has the power to get the records declassified and prove once-and-for-all that Cheeny is a liar. Why doesn't he do this? Better yet...why aren't you and your ilk demanding this?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Cheney should step down as VP immediately... oh wait.

Yet the ATPN conservatives still quote him as a reliable source on torture and the iraq war :confused:

And Obama and anyone in his Administration are credible sources? None of those Nancies know anything about war other than what CNN feeds them.
And you and Cheney do?

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM

The Cheney mantra: Lie big, lie about lying, lie often, then repeat.

That's Karl Rove's mantra, as well. They both got it from Hitler's propoganda minster, Joseph Goebbels, often cited as the author of "the Big Lie."

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

The reign of the Bushwhacko administration was probabaly as close as this nation has ever come to a totalitarian facist dictatorship.

Now, we need our own equivalent of the Nuremberg trials to document their crimes against our Constitution, our people and humanity and to hold those who comitted them accountable. It's the only way we can purge the stain and the stench they have left on the honor of the United States of America.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Harvey, you forgot the other important quote :D , from Hermann Goering:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

Does this sound familiar to all you Bush-supporters? Maybe want to read it again and think about it? Because this is you. Bush said you are in danger, it's the evil muslims that did it, and all of a sudden, you all think the laws doesn't apply to them, you can do whatever you want (torture, invade a country, spy on your own citizens, break the law, etc......)

Even now, you insult the people who are against torture, claiming that we are "unpatriotic", just like Bush and company for 7 years insulted anyone who disagreed with their policies as being un-American, un-patriotic, traitors to their country. Again, sound like something y'all have been spouting off for years?

Think and learn.