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Cheney speech at AEI last week:
"Conclusion 19" of the Senate Armed Services Committee Report:
Note, this is substantial especially to this forum where conservatives will often repeat the cheney lie that torture prevented attacks in the USA and was generally useful, disregarding that Cheney has lied about almost every facet of the conduct of the war. How can you believe Cheney on waterboarding when he hasn't been honest about Abu Ghraib? He is even still parroting old lies about the Iraq war to this day. If the right cannot see Cheney for what he is (a pathological liar), then you have no hope for yourselves or your party.
Cheney speech at AEI last week:
In public discussion of these matters, there has been a strange and sometimes willful attempt to conflate what happened at Abu Ghraib prison with the top secret program of enhanced interrogations. At Abu Ghraib, a few sadistic prison guards abused inmates in violation of American law, military regulations, and simple decency. For the harm they did, to Iraqi prisoners and to America's cause, they deserved and received Army justice. And it takes a deeply unfair cast of mind to equate the disgraces of Abu Ghraib with the lawful, skillful, and entirely honorable work of CIA personnel trained to deal with a few malevolent men.
"Conclusion 19" of the Senate Armed Services Committee Report:
The abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib in late 2003 was not simply the result of a few soldiers acting on their own. Interrogation techniques such as stripping detainees of their clothes, placing them in stress positions, and using military working dogs to intimidate them appeared in Iraq only after they had been approved for use in Afghanistan and at GTMO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld?s December 2, 2002 authorization of aggressive interrogation techniques and subsequent interrogation policies and plans approved by senior military and civilian officials conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees in U.S. military custody. What followed was an erosion in standards dictating that detainees be treated humanely.
Note, this is substantial especially to this forum where conservatives will often repeat the cheney lie that torture prevented attacks in the USA and was generally useful, disregarding that Cheney has lied about almost every facet of the conduct of the war. How can you believe Cheney on waterboarding when he hasn't been honest about Abu Ghraib? He is even still parroting old lies about the Iraq war to this day. If the right cannot see Cheney for what he is (a pathological liar), then you have no hope for yourselves or your party.