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Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
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Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Click to expand...

Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
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So, he runs the greatest intelligence agency in the world..the one that apparently gave him bad intel (The excuse ProfJohn LOVES to cling to) and he isn't responsible for it?

so we should just let him off the hook?
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Click to expand...

Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
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So, he runs the greatest intelligence agency in the world..the one that apparently gave him bad intel (The excuse ProfJohn LOVES to cling to) and he isn't responsible for it?

so we should just let him off the hook?
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No, you've got it wrong. What blackangst1 is saying is we should not look at our failures and learn from them, but dismiss them......
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Click to expand...
Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
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Huh? George W. Bush never ran the CIA. That was Bush Sr.

Also, for the record, the bulk of the bad intel did NOT come from the CIA, but from Rumsfeld's Office of Special Projects, a competing "intellignece" group set up by BushCo because the CIA's intel didn't support their anti-Iraq agenda. The Bush administration deliberately manipulated the intel to get the story they needed to sell the war. It was all a lie.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Click to expand...

Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
Click to expand...

So, he runs the greatest intelligence agency in the world..the one that apparently gave him bad intel (The excuse ProfJohn LOVES to cling to) and he isn't responsible for it?

so we should just let him off the hook?
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eh? What does one have to do with the other? And I guess all the media is lying when they said Bush got bad intel huh? Wow I never realized Prof John was so famous for creating that idea!
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: HomerJS
For those of you who say it was a massive intelligence failure why did Bush give George Tenat a medal upon leaving office?

In case you don't know Georgie was in charge of intelligence.

Just my opinion, this was a way of shutting him up since he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Click to expand...
Thats what people fail to realize. Bush did made mistakes (what prez hasnt?), but an idiot he is not. The information he is exposed to due to his prev. running of CIA must be overwhelming. A dolt cant run the greatest intelligence agency in the world.

Please dont start flaming me for this. But I guess most of you people are so filled with Bush hatred nothing else would be expected *shrug*
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Huh? George W. Bush never ran the CIA. That was Bush Sr.

Also, for the record, the bulk of the bad intel did NOT come from the CIA, but from Rumsfeld's Office of Special Projects, a competing "intellignece" group set up by BushCo because the CIA's intel didn't support their anti-Iraq agenda. The Bush administration deliberately manipulated the intel to get the story they needed to sell the war. It was all a lie.
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Kinda drunk. Yeah pappy ran it, but son was very involved. Saw a 60 minutes thing on it years ago. Pretty much when son got into office pappy opened the coffers of intel.
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Aimster
none of this would have happened had their been a democrat in office ... both in the 80s and now.
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Yea a couple more Carter like Presidents and we would have surrendered by now.

You must like Democrats like Carter because his response to your beloved Iran holding Americans hostage for 400+ days was to do nothing
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Unlike Reagan who's response to a terorist attack (the Bombing of the Marines Barracks in Beruit) was to invade the militarily powerful island nation of Grenada! It seems like Bush and Reagan do have something in common, invading countries after a terrorist attack that have nothing to do with the terrorist attack.

At least Reagan had an excuse, his mind was ravaged with Alzhiemers.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Unlike Reagan who's response to a terorist attack (the Bombing of the Marines Barracks in Beruit) was to invade the militarily powerful island nation of Grenada! It seems like Bush and Reagan do have something in common, invading countries after a terrorist attack that have nothing to do with the terrorist attack.

At least Reagan had an excuse, his mind was ravaged with Alzhiemers.
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Another good point! Reagan withdrew the Marines from Beruit after the terrorist attack there. Reagan is the original 'cut and runner'!
 
ProfJohn said:
For those of you brave enough you can head over to Rushlimbaugh.com and read the transcript for yourself.
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Far left lefty leftist unhinged leftist lefty moonbat suffering from Bush Derangment Syndrome lefty is telling me not to trust MSM, but independent traditionalist Bill O'Reilly just told me that I shouldn't trust MSM News because Disney is paying a far left radical (Rosie O'Donnell) to get Americans killed by Iranians and Iraqians.

So who do I trust? Who do I believe? It's all so confusing. I think I'll stick to a more conservative source, who doesn't speak in hyperbole like far left lefty's and Bill.

turns off brain...

....Rush, it's me again....
 
It should be no surprise that the first president to confront the dangers of fearmongering was the most liberal President of the 20th century, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Roosevelt came to office at a time when many elites and intellectuals were arguing either the virtues fascism like Italy or Germany or Communism like Stalins Soviet Union as the necessary path to pull us out of our Great Depression. Roosevelt confronted these talking heads straight on by challenging the root premise of the argument:

fear...

9/11 didn't change us, anymore than Oklahoma City or Waco changed us.

What changed us, was they way 9/11 was manipulated into some global ideological conflict between East and West, good and evil, Muslim and Christian, freedom and slavery and most of all us and them; a small band of radical idiots with money we gave them for their oil, suddenly elevated to the level of superpower status, a power so great that if we don't go and fight them "there" they will swim over here and subjugate us to their beastly beliefs.

No intelligent person should ever have bought into this argument yet our MSM and the majority of Americans bought it hook line and sinker.

I think it is important to understand that we can never expect to change their minds, we can and should challenge those in power who goad them on. What is odd is no one has ever explored what terrified people they are.

From "Reds under the beds" to "IslamoFascists fighting us here", fear is used as a tool and weilded by people who Franklin Roosevelt would have backhanded across the face and demand they get a grip.

Don't attack their logic, attack their cowardice.

 
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