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Cheney has gone insane...compares Bush to Churchill and Truman

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Originally posted by: conjur
baaaJohnGaltbaaaa, your first post in this thread was a personal attack on Klixxer.

You have offered nothing of substance to this thread.

So now we have to employ the 'substance' meter for silly threads like this? Okay...shall we turn the meter on, Conjur?
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Anyway, VPs will say these things about their bosses. Cheney has a product he wants to sell. Caveat Emptor.

I agree, Winston. This is analogous to Gore defending his boss during the ?Cigar-Gate? SNAFU, and then distancing himself from his boss once there was no longer an interest. To do otherwise is illogical (I would have used ?stupid?, but then people who do not see this would take that to be a character attack, thus I substituted the word for such members).
 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: conjur
baaaJohnGaltbaaaa, your first post in this thread was a personal attack on Klixxer.

You have offered nothing of substance to this thread.

So now we have to employ the 'substance' meter for silly threads like this? Okay...shall we turn the meter on, Conjur?

The only thing silly is Cheney's comments. He's losing it.
 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Anyway, VPs will say these things about their bosses. Cheney has a product he wants to sell. Caveat Emptor.

I agree, Winston. This is analogous to Gore defending his boss during the ?Cigar-Gate? SNAFU, and then distancing himself from his boss once there was no longer an interest. To do otherwise is illogical (I would have used ?stupid?, but then people who do not see this would take that to be a character attack, thus I substituted the word for such members).

Quite right--this is spin through-and-through--trying to get re-elected.

But in this case I think Cheney was really saying more than meets the eye.

I think he was talking about himself! What he was really saying is: Hope you bumpkins will realize once the History is written about who was pulling the strings...what a great leader I --Dick Cheney-- am.
 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I'm talking about you galt, not me. Try and prove you don't do what I accuse you of doing, instead of dodging the question.

I must have missed the "important" question that I am "dodging"...all I saw was an attempted attack on me using your spin to make it seem like I am attacking someone else?"I'm talking about you galt, not me." Perhaps, then, you should worry more about "Sudheer Anne" and less about "xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx." Or, at the very least, don't be guilty of the crimes you purport others to be committing.

How did you say it? "PWNED"


*snicker* PWNED!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: conjur
baaaJohnGaltbaaaa, your first post in this thread was a personal attack on Klixxer.

You have offered nothing of substance to this thread.

So now we have to employ the 'substance' meter for silly threads like this? Okay...shall we turn the meter on, Conjur?

The only thing silly is Cheney's comments. He's losing it.

No No, let him keep doing what he is doing. He'll go along by the wayside with his boss come November.
 
The vice president also said that "in Truman and Churchill, we find models for the kind of leadership required to defend freedom in our time."

See! Cheney understands we need a Democrat president too!
 
Naturally Bush is going to get likened to Churchill since he resembles Adolph Hitler. That's how Nazi propaganda works. Cheney is Joseph Goebbels.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?

Democratic socialism in near-full bloom.

Not only did the US help Germany on their way to democracy--Dammed Germans took the ball and ran with it.

Democracy Plus.

That's got to knaw at those who don't believe in or wish for true democracy here in the states.
 
Originally posted by: fjord
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?

Democratic socialism in near-full bloom.

Not only did the US help Germany on their way to democracy--Dammed Germans took the ball and ran with it.

Democracy Plus.

That's got to knaw at those who don't believe in or wish for true democracy here in the states.

The way you put it. There is something wrong with it.

Not ONLY did the US help Germany on their way to democracy? Excuse me, but i believe that Germany was democratic long before that time?

The US didn't do sh!t when Germany took over most of Europe, it was when they saw the German forces as a threat, they acted, after getting bombed. Don't kid yourself, US didn't save Europe, they saved their own butt. Nothing more, nothing less.

The US helped Germany on their way to democracy? LMAO!
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: fjord
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?

Democratic socialism in near-full bloom.

Not only did the US help Germany on their way to democracy--Dammed Germans took the ball and ran with it.

Democracy Plus.

That's got to knaw at those who don't believe in or wish for true democracy here in the states.

The way you put it. There is something wrong with it.

Not ONLY did the US help Germany on their way to democracy? Excuse me, but i believe that Germany was democratic long before that time?

The US didn't do sh!t when Germany took over most of Europe, it was when they saw the German forces as a threat, they acted, after getting bombed. Don't kid yourself, US didn't save Europe, they saved their own butt. Nothing more, nothing less.

The US helped Germany on their way to democracy? LMAO!

so.. without the US what, the russians would have liberated them?

Socialism isn't democracy if poor people like me prefer capitalism. Such is why america has a republican majority.

So we've got a democracy, It's just that our demos dosn't want to repress the afluent minority.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/27/election.main/

In 1946, Winston Churchill went to Westminster College with President Harry Truman to deliver his famous speech about the growing threat of Communism, in which he coined the phrase "Iron Curtain."

Speaking at the same venue, the vice president drew a parallel between the Cold War and the current war on terrorism -- and between Bush and the famed British wartime leader.

"To look back on the pivotal decisions of the 1940s and '50s is to be reminded that certain moments come along in history when the gravest of threats reveal themselves," Cheney said. "You and I are living in such a time."

The vice president also said that "in Truman and Churchill, we find models for the kind of leadership required to defend freedom in our time."

"Today, we have such a leader in President George W. Bush," he said.

Bush is a leader alright, a leader of failures. Bush has never surrounded himself with thinkers, people who seek to hear from all sides of an issue. His little cabal of yes-men ideologues is a sham and is destroying our country.

And, it's funny how conservatives, during the time of Truman, labeled him a Communist dupe but now are quick to call Truman a great leader.

*cookie*

CkG
 
Originally posted by: Perknose

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?[/quote]

Don't believe what you read in the papers and see on CNN. But yes, I have lived there for 7-8 years and married one of them 🙂


[edit] I just read your post again. No, I don't know how 'intelligently' liberal they are; I just know they are liberal. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: fjord
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: kage69
I wonder if Cheney remembers that the English people dropped Churchill like a bad habit after the war?

I sincerely hope our mildly-retarded sheep of a president follows Churchill in that respect.

Mildly??????

...this coming from a guy in Germany...Berlin to boot? (no jackboot pun intended)

Yes, me being from Germany has WHAT to do with that? Please explain.
Galt, I've seen you spouting Deutsch on this forum, nicht wahr? I have the impression you've lived there as well. So, most certainly, you know how intelligently liberal and internationalist the majority of present day Germans are, especially in Berlin. Right?

Democratic socialism in near-full bloom.

Not only did the US help Germany on their way to democracy--Dammed Germans took the ball and ran with it.

Democracy Plus.

That's got to knaw at those who don't believe in or wish for true democracy here in the states.

The way you put it. There is something wrong with it.

Not ONLY did the US help Germany on their way to democracy? Excuse me, but i believe that Germany was democratic long before that time?

The US didn't do sh!t when Germany took over most of Europe, it was when they saw the German forces as a threat, they acted, after getting bombed. Don't kid yourself, US didn't save Europe, they saved their own butt. Nothing more, nothing less.

The US helped Germany on their way to democracy? LMAO!

so.. without the US what, the russians would have liberated them?

Socialism isn't democracy if poor people like me prefer capitalism. Such is why america has a republican majority.

So we've got a democracy, It's just that our demos dosn't want to repress the afluent minority.

How is socialism not democratic if the people choose to have it?

Remember, socialism does not equal communism.
 
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