Yeah well, you libs on the left who like to claim you are so against it don't seem to make much of a fuss about Americans or other allies getting tortured.. You seem to care more about when we do it to the enemy. So don't give me that tired old line.
Yeah well, you libs on the left who like to claim you are so against it don't seem to make much of a fuss about Americans or other allies getting tortured.. You seem to care more about when we do it to the enemy. So don't give me that tired old line.
What's funny is captured terrorists will now probably receive a better quality of life than if they were just living a normal life in their home country.
Yep, because all the captured terrorists were uniformed officers wearing the flag of their home country, to receive protections under the Geneva Conventions.
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Remember back some years ago when the left got all up in arms about Cheney making a statement claiming they wanted to give our enemies hugs and therapy? Initially I thought it was stupid. After these most recent threads I'm not so sure he was that far off the mark.
Woah woah woah! Don't start saying what the Geneva Convention actually SAYS.. you might make their head explode.. and that would, of course, be torture.
Yeah, he has "tortured" me enough. He will dodge answering any question that doesn't support his worldview, which is very narrow to begin with...but Im sure in his next post he'll call me a troll or a libby or somesuch for pointing that out.
Regarding the memo's. This is the heart of it: It isn't torture because we hired a bunch of aggressive lawyers to say it isn't and put it on paper for just this opportunity.
Its interesting, the Pentagons involvement in torture. When you use or copy SERE techniques, which was setup to help prepare soldiers for illegal interrogations and torture is then copied to use on our prisoners, you know something is wrong. Especially when several people in the SERE program came out and said that this amounted to torture and is illegal. If they thought otherwise they would have some kind of oversight to monitor and record the events just like executions.
Hell!, if waterboarding and the like are not torture, maybe we can have some politician like Cheney or Pelosi authorize and hand it to local law enforcement.
Now the police can really find out where all these teenagers are getting all that weed.
If those teenagers are trying to obtain a nuclear weapon, then I say go ahead and dunk them in water a few times. Really, is it any different than a swirlie? :roll:
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Check out Drudge. I think I may know why Cheney, Bush, etc will never be prosecuted.
Its looking like some high-placed (D) may have known about the waterboarding.
Its looking like some high-placed (D) may have known about the waterboarding.
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iow, despite all the hot air, you still can't provide any specific legal argument to show that the methods we used would be classified as torture according to US laws.
Thought so. Don't feel bad. Nobody else in here has either.
No, we've just showed you how they have been successfully prosecuted as torture by the US in the past.
Now I'll wait for the desperate, flailing, 'buh...buh...buh the Japanese waterboarded them MORE!' argument.
Like I've said before though, arguing with you is more about establishing a record of you being a moron than it is actually getting you to ever admit you're wrong, because you don't do that no matter how embarrassing the conversation has become.
And that's exactly what you don't understand about BEING an American. It has nothing to do with left or right. It has EVERYTHING to do with right and wrong.
As a matter of principle, WE have declared we will NOT engage in the evil you're so eager to commit against other human beings. Sadly, that's what your fortunatelyEX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals and war profiteers did. Even worse, they did it in our name and to our everlasting shame.
If you want to torture people, go join Al Qaeda or some tin pot dictatorship, but don't spread your venom around real Americans who reject your toxic insanity for what it is. :|
Yeah. It's pretty obvious TLC thinks like a Dick. :laugh:
What is cold blooded, toxic, dangerous and TastesLikeChicken? :shocked:
Hmmm... actually, if this could be the topic that can kick everyone out of government and replace them... perhaps I'm wrong in opposing it. These ends certainly justify any and all means
It's quite amazing how much "class" an "elite" senior moderator has :laugh:
Harvey is posting in his role as a 'regular member', not a Moderator. Please refrain from confusing the two or you risk the appearence of a "mod call-out". Don't wanna do that.
TIA
Fern
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