Cheney Announces formation of anti-Obama group and calls president ‘dangerous’

[dank69]

Megyn Kelly vs. Dick Cheney

During her interview with Cheney and his daughter Liz on Wednesday night, Kelly introduced him as "the man who helped lead us into Iraq in the first place."

She read the quote back to the former vice president and then said, "But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong in Iraq as well, sir."

"You said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Kelly told Cheney. "You said we would be greeted as liberators. You said the insurgency was in the last throes, back in 2005. And you said after our intervention that extremists would have to 'rethink their strategy of jihad.' Now with almost $1 trillion spent there, with 4,500 American lives lost there, what do you say to those who say, 'You were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many'?"

"Well, I just fundamentally disagree, Reagan — uh, Megyn," Cheney replied. "You've got to go back and look at the track record. We inherited a situation where there was no doubt in anybody's mind about the extent of Saddam's involvement in weapons of mass destruction. We had a situation where, after 9/11, we were concerned about a follow-up attack. It would involve not just airline tickets and box cutters as the weapons, but rather something far deadlier, perhaps even a nuclear weapon."

It would've been "irresponsible for us not to act," Cheney said.

 

[kage69]

Come, come now Obama didn't get the deficit by half. He inherited a $1.41 trillion deficit and it is now under $500 billion. He cut it by over 65%.

I think the thing Republicans are so upset about is that what might be the worst Democrat President in 50 years is better than any Republican one in that same time frame.

Correct, I was quoting something I had bookmarked, and see now it was from October of last year. I stand corrected.

No argument here on the rest of that. The Dems don't exactly shine in my opinion and have room for lots of improvement, but when compared to the other side they look damn near saintly, and sane.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Correct, I was quoting something I had bookmarked, and see now it was from October of last year. I stand corrected.

No argument here on the rest of that. The Dems don't exactly shine in my opinion and have room for lots of improvement, but when compared to the other side they look damn near saintly, and sane.

I think our greatest failure as a people is to hold the elected to a lower standard than we should expect of ourselves. For longer that I can remember I've heard "but it beats the alternative". We're too forgiving.

 

[kage69]

I'll give him credit for some things but I also know he's not failed in advancing Cheney's and the rest of the last administration's attack on our rights. I cannot approve of such actions and that does him in for me.

Definitely my biggest beef with him too. I don't think he's as enthusiastic about it as Cheney was, or so allergic to discussion about it either, but he definitely rolled over for the security apparatus when he should have put his foot down and lived up to the spirit of his election wrt to liberty and oversight.

 

[JTsyo]

I'm sure this new interest group will have no qualms of separating fools from their money.

 

[kage69]

I think our greatest failure as a people is to hold the elected to a lower standard than we should expect of ourselves. For longer that I can remember I've heard "but it beats the alternative". We're too forgiving.

I can't argue with that. I've been lamenting the same thing for some time now. The vilification of intelligence and higher learning while stressing sports interests, religious subscription or perceived approachability as desirable prerequisites in a presidential nominee just pisses me off to no end.

We can't put the lowest common denominator in office then expect a stellar job to be done.

Part of the problem as I see it is that many of those responsible for that kind of thinking don't want to be aware of the consequences of their votes, and avoid those debates and topics like the plague. Out of sight, out of mind, which plays well with the normally short attention span and general apathy Americans have towards politics. What is it they say about those who fail to learn from history?

Yup. And that's how people like GWB and Sarah Palin get elected.

 

[kage69]

I'm sure this new interest group will have no qualms of separating fools from their money.

Let's hope they gave Karl Rove a call. As the last election showed, he's a master of that too.

 

[hal2kilo]

Definitely my biggest beef with him too. I don't think he's as enthusiastic about it as Cheney was, or so allergic to discussion about it either, but he definitely rolled over for the security apparatus when he should have put his foot down and lived up to the spirit of his election wrt to liberty and oversight.

Yep, my biggest diapointment. I think Snowden gave us just a little peak into the monstrocity of the NSA and why new admins get bullied into accepting it as standard practice (not excusing this admin on this).

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Definitely my biggest beef with him too. I don't think he's as enthusiastic about it as Cheney was, or so allergic to discussion about it either, but he definitely rolled over for the security apparatus when he should have put his foot down and lived up to the spirit of his election wrt to liberty and oversight.

I'd disagree to the extent that he's not rolled over, but with great zeal picked up the baton and run with it. The difference is that Obama isn't vocal about it, and downright dishonest.

Consider the administration's belligerence towards the entire world over Snowden. I found that astounding. Then there's the "safeguards" on domestic surveillance. If one looks behind the glossed over details it can be found that what is permitted has expanded. While a specific agency may not be collecting the information it is gathered and the oversight provided by those with a demonstrated disregard for that task. And what if the tools were improperly used? The Administration has fought against discovery. It's the catch 22 of legal standing. You cannot access documents to show abuses unless you show they occurred and the only way to do that is to access the documents you asked for but were denied. Then there's the claim that no American has had information used against them. That is decidedly a lie. It has been used in parallel construction for other than terrorism. He smiles much more nicely than Cheney but make no mistake- he's worse in this regard. "Who's watching over who's watching you"? No one worth a damn.

 

[DesiPower]

sob already made billions by selling us into the 1st Iraq war, he is still hungry for more? mofo has a artificial heart, wont even die anytime soon... we are screwed.

 

[marincounty]

I think our greatest failure as a people is to hold the elected to a lower standard than we should expect of ourselves. For longer that I can remember I've heard "but it beats the alternative". We're too forgiving.

I agree we're too forgiving. Bush and Cheney should be hung at sunrise.

 

[Thebobo]

......"Well, I just fundamentally disagree, Reagan — uh, Megyn," Cheney replied. "You've got to go back and look at the track record. We inherited a situation where there was no doubt in anybody's mind about the extent of Saddam's involvement in weapons of mass destruction. We had a situation where, after 9/11, we were concerned about a follow-up attack. It would involve not just airline tickets and box cutters as the weapons, but rather something far deadlier, perhaps even a nuclear weapon."

It would've been "irresponsible for us not to act," Cheney said.

Well props to Megyn, that took some balls. Oh never mind she let him babale and squeal his way out! lol what a cave in. Ok I go back to my thought FOX sucks and Megyn is a patsi.

And that's horribly embarrassing for him I would think, has he no shame? Its amazing how he still thinks he can sway people. If I was family I would makes sure he stayed out of sight for a while if not forever.


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[shira]

It must be pretty miserable for Cheney. The world now knows that with his hubris and lies he virtually single-handedly led us into the debacle of Iraq. And now he's pathetically trying to re-write history and foist the blame on Obama. Oh, and we increasingly know how completely unavailing his torture program turned out to be. Too bad for him that the historical record is so clear.

What a pathetic little man.

 

[piasabird]

Just let the Muslims kill each other.

 

[Oldgamer]

Megyn Kelly vs. Dick Cheney

Cheney is a stubborn old man deep in denial.

 

[UberNeuman]

Cheney is a stubborn old man deep in denial.

He's more machine now than man. Twisted and evil.

 

[CountZero]

This is supposed to be news?

Anyone with eyes and ears should know obama is working to not only weaken the United States, but to make our enemies stronger.

Anyone that makes the claim that any president going back at least to Carter is/was intentionally working to weaken the US and make our enemies stronger is a complete moron.

Presidents might make bad calls, they might enact policies you don't agree with, they might try to fix problems in ways you don't agree with and they might change things that you don't believe needed to be changed but to claim they are intentionally weakening the US is ludicrous.

It places you on the same intellectual field as birthers and 9/11 truthers which is to say bottom of the barrel.

 

[DesiPower]

Cheney is a stubborn old man deep in denial.

No he is not, he very well knows what he is doing, he just wants to start another war so that his contracting companies can make more money

 

[Vic]

I love how you guys get to have it both ways. Obozo ended the war in Iraq, but now that its clearly shown the war isn't over, its Bush's fault for starting it, not Obama's for 'ending' it before it was over.

"Mission Accomplished. "

 

[MongGrel]

This is supposed to be news?

Anyone with eyes and ears should know obama is working to not only weaken the United States, but to make our enemies stronger.

The blame of Iraq falls squarely on Obama's shoulders. Critics agree, Bush's policy was right.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-critics-on-iraq-violence-bush-doctrine-was-right/

Really? Wow, what world do you live in?

Obama has done everything from isolate russia to ease trade sanctions on Iran.

I'm seriously wondering what one you do

La la land I guess.

 

[hal2kilo]

Well props to Megyn, that took some balls. Oh never mind she let him babale and squeal his way out! lol what a cave in. Ok I go back to my thought FOX sucks and Megyn is a patsi.

And that's horribly embarrassing for him I would think, has he no shame? Its amazing how he still thinks he can sway people. If I was family I would makes sure he stayed out of sight for a while if not forever.


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I saw that interview and thought someone slipped me a hit of blotter.

I might actually be able to use the R word and Megyn Kelly in the same sentence (respect).

Is her contract about up?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

That's a keeper.

My wife was looking over my shoulder while I was surfing and said:

"Starring the two biggest dicks in politics."

 

[Zebo]

This asshole created a caliphate and calls Obama Dangerous.

 

[Zebo]

Only time Cheney was right 1996.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NqjS402-Cs

Okay twice He actually predicts perfectly whats happened!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I 1994

Sorta makes his malice and lies in 2003 not stupid just evil. He and all his buddies made billions off the racket so I'm not sure why they need more.