Cheney Again Links Iraq Invasion To 9/11 As Bombing Victims Are Buried

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The good news is that the MSM is quickly jumping to condemn any untruths or misdirection from the Bush administration during this election cycle. If you've seen Bill Moyer's excellent piece called Buying The War, you would know that during 2003/2004, the MSM was just as guilty as the Bush Administration for relaying lies from the White House pulpit to the American people. This time around, they are giving each statement the careful criticism it deserves.

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BAGHDAD ? Amid tears and wails, mourners in the southern city of Najaf on Tuesday began burying victims from a suicide bombing that killed nearly 50 worshipers and injured dozens of others just before evening prayers Monday in nearby Karbala .

In Baghdad , a long-anticipated Iraqi national reconciliation conference began with great fanfare, then quickly dissolved into the usual sectarian and political stalemates that have marred several similar gatherings in recent years.

But Vice President Dick Cheney gave an upbeat view of conditions in Iraq as he concluded his unannounced trip to mark the fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion. Cheney also defended the toppling of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein as part of the struggle against terrorism following the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

This month, an exhaustive Pentagon-sponsored review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents captured during the 2003 U.S. invasion found no evidence that Saddam's regime had any operational links with the al Qaida terrorist network.

But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

"This long-term struggle became urgent on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 . That day we clearly saw that dangers can gather far from our own shores and find us right there at home," said Cheney, who was accompanied by his wife, Lynne, and their daughter, Elizabeth.

"So the United States made a decision: to hunt down the evil of terrorism and kill it where it grows, to hold the supporters of terror to account and to confront regimes that harbor terrorists and threaten the peace," Cheney said. "Understanding all the dangers of this new era, we have no intention of abandoning our friends or allowing this country of 170,000 square miles to become a staging area for further attacks against Americans."

Cheney later traveled to Irbil , the capital of the mostly autonomous Kurdish region, for a meeting with Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani , before flying to Oman .

Meanwhile, at the graveyard in Najaf, police restricted funerals to eight family members, out of fears that the funerals would become a target for further attacks. Emotions ran high among mourners of the bombing victims. One man draped himself over a coffin and sobbed, "My father, my father."

"Security forces have been negligent in securing the city and the pilgrims," said Mohamed Hassan Ali , who buried his cousin, a policeman who was killed in the blast. "This area should have had camera monitoring, searches and equipment to detect explosives."

The devastating security breach at one of Iraq's most sacred places added to the pressure on Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to make recent security gains stick and to keep the country on track for October elections.

The Baghdad reconciliation conference was intended to bring the country's warring factions to the negotiating table.

But only half of the 700 invited guests showed up, and any real chance for negotiations dissolved when both the leading Sunni Muslim bloc and the powerful faction loyal to the rebel Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al Sadr announced boycotts.

"We entered the conference to reaffirm our support for national reconciliation, and we left to show our rejection of all these fake conferences," Nassar al Rubaiye , a Sadr-allied lawmaker, said of his group's walkout. Most Sunnis and Sadrists didn't participate, and Shiite lawmakers in attendance hinted that the groups weren't missed.

Sunni lawmakers boycotted because they believe Maliki hasn't made good on pledges to disband Shiite militias, release detainees not charged with crimes and include Sunni legislators in security decisions.

Members of Sadr's militant Shiite movement said they walked out of the conference because of the lack of dialogue in preparations, a crackdown on Sadr's forces in the south and to protest thousands of Iraqi detainees in U.S. custody.

Across the board, there were complaints of late invitations, snubs and general disarray. Even Wathab Shaker, head of the parliament's national reconciliation committee, said he was left out of all planning for the conference. He is a Sunni.

"No contact had been made between the preparation committee for the conference and the parliament's reconciliation committee. Absolutely no contact," Shaker said. "I wish them good luck."

Tuesday's roster of attacks included two roadside bombs in Baghdad ? one targeting civilians at a market in Shaab, the other at a busy intersection in al Bunook? that killed four Iraqis and wounded at least 13, authorities said. A car bomb outside an electronics store in Mosul killed three and wounded 40, the U.S. military said.

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Darth Cheney strikes again. What a piece of shit that man is. Will be celebrating when he and his little dog bush gets kicked to the curb right after the next election.
 

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"So the United States made a decision: to hunt down the evil of terrorism and kill it where it grows, to hold the supporters of terror to account and to confront regimes that harbor terrorists and threaten the peace," Cheney said.

You mean like Pakistan Mr. Cheney? :disgust:

I would pay a years salary to smash his face with a mud pie. :|
 

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TLC, get your head out of your ass, seriously.

Try this on for size

"This long-term struggle became urgent on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 . That day we clearly saw that dangers can gather far from our own shores and find us right there at home," said Cheney, who was accompanied by his wife, Lynne, and their daughter, Elizabeth.

"So the United States made a decision: to hunt down the evil of terrorism and kill it where it grows, to hold the supporters of terror to account and to confront regimes that harbor terrorists and threaten the peace," Cheney said. "Understanding all the dangers of this new era, we have no intention of abandoning our friends or allowing this country of 170,000 square miles to become a staging area for further attacks against Americans."

Now, if he initially referred to the 9/11 attack in the first paragraph, and in the 2nd paragraph says "further attacks", he's implying the initial attack is linked to the 'further attacks'. See how that works?

Subtle? Perhaps - if it was the first time he's made such claims - or are you in fact going to deny he's linked Iraq and Al-Q before as well?
 
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Originally posted by: NeoV
TLC, get your head out of your ass, seriously.

Try this on for size

"This long-term struggle became urgent on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 . That day we clearly saw that dangers can gather far from our own shores and find us right there at home," said Cheney, who was accompanied by his wife, Lynne, and their daughter, Elizabeth.

"So the United States made a decision: to hunt down the evil of terrorism and kill it where it grows, to hold the supporters of terror to account and to confront regimes that harbor terrorists and threaten the peace," Cheney said. "Understanding all the dangers of this new era, we have no intention of abandoning our friends or allowing this country of 170,000 square miles to become a staging area for further attacks against Americans."

Now, if he initially referred to the 9/11 attack in the first paragraph, and in the 2nd paragraph says "further attacks", he's implying the initial attack is linked to the 'further attacks'. See how that works?

Subtle? Perhaps - if it was the first time he's made such claims - or are you in fact going to deny he's linked Iraq and Al-Q before as well?
Subtle? More like you're reading in to what's not there in a transparent attempt to demonize.

Get your head out of your ass? Indeed.

Seriously.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: NeoV
TLC, get your head out of your ass, seriously.
C'mon man, I thought you've been around here long enough to avoid thread bait like that. ;)

A major international news organization noticed Cheney's deceitful statements, and Yahoo! News had it on their front page.

We should just accept that TLC fits Dick's target demographic.
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: NeoV
TLC, get your head out of your ass, seriously.

Try this on for size

"This long-term struggle became urgent on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 . That day we clearly saw that dangers can gather far from our own shores and find us right there at home," said Cheney, who was accompanied by his wife, Lynne, and their daughter, Elizabeth.

"So the United States made a decision: to hunt down the evil of terrorism and kill it where it grows, to hold the supporters of terror to account and to confront regimes that harbor terrorists and threaten the peace," Cheney said. "Understanding all the dangers of this new era, we have no intention of abandoning our friends or allowing this country of 170,000 square miles to become a staging area for further attacks against Americans."

Now, if he initially referred to the 9/11 attack in the first paragraph, and in the 2nd paragraph says "further attacks", he's implying the initial attack is linked to the 'further attacks'. See how that works?

Subtle? Perhaps - if it was the first time he's made such claims - or are you in fact going to deny he's linked Iraq and Al-Q before as well?
Subtle? More like you're reading in to what's not there in a transparent attempt to demonize.

Get your head out of your ass? Indeed.

Seriously.

You would have to work very, very hard in order to figure out a way that Cheney was not conflating Iraq and 9/11. I'm sure you're up to the task though.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: NeoV
TLC, get your head out of your ass, seriously.
C'mon man, I thought you've been around here long enough to avoid thread bait like that. ;)

A major international news organization noticed Cheney's deceitful statements, and Yahoo! News had it on their front page.

We should just accept that TLC fits Dick's target demographic.
I'm still waiting for someone to actually answer my question. You failed completely as has eveyone else in here thus far. Though I'm not surprised in the least. In fact, it's exactly what I expected - the usual personal attacks and no meat whatsoever.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
the usual personal attacks and no meat whatsoever.
Please point out the personal attack?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

I need proof that jpeyton said this - as your quote is part of the article, I don't see where he [jpeyton] said this...

/tlc.......
//see how that shat works...


 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

I need proof that jpeyton said this - as your quote is part of the article, I don't see where he [jpeyton] said this...

/tlc.......
//see how that shat works...


Topic Title: Cheney Again Links Iraq Invasion To 9/11 As Bombing Victims Are Buried
Topic Summary: Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

 
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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

I need proof that jpeyton said this - as your quote is part of the article, I don't see where he [jpeyton] said this...

/tlc.......
//see how that shat works...
Should have held off clicking that Reply button, eh?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

I need proof that jpeyton said this - as your quote is part of the article, I don't see where he [jpeyton] said this...

/tlc.......
//see how that shat works...


Topic Title: Cheney Again Links Iraq Invasion To 9/11 As Bombing Victims Are Buried
Topic Summary: Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Did the op say what bothers you - or are you taking to task what you feel he's saying...?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Fortunately He Was Speaking To An Audience Dumb Enough To Believe Him

Way to insult our military members again. Bravo.

Where did he say anything about the members of the military?

/just takin' a TLC point of view....
/SEMANTICS! ftl....



But Cheney, who spent the night at a sprawling U.S. base in the northern town of Balad, told soldiers they were defending future generations of Americans from a global terror threat.

I need proof that jpeyton said this - as your quote is part of the article, I don't see where he [jpeyton] said this...

/tlc.......
//see how that shat works...
Should have held off clicking that Reply button, eh?


Not really, but you should try it sometime....
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
the usual personal attacks and no meat whatsoever.
Please point out the personal attack?

"We should just accept that TLC fits Dick's target demographic."
If you consider that an attack, then you must strongly disagree with what Cheney said.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
the usual personal attacks and no meat whatsoever.
Please point out the personal attack?

"We should just accept that TLC fits Dick's target demographic."
If you consider that an attack, then you must strongly disagree with what Cheney said.
You made it personal. Regardless of what Cheney has to say, and for which I truly don't give a rat's ass, you made it personal, which is what you specifically inquired about.

You got your answer. Any other questions now?