Cheesecake is better than pie.

[Dirigible]

To those that call it pie: I am going to rape you with a sharp rusty spatula. I will not be gentle. I will use lube; I'm not totally without a heart.

CheeseCAKE, bitches.

 

[sactoking]

No, it's just a tart.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WXEg1J1O5cY/S40we4AWaVI/AAAAAAAABEI/VbCAhVCyp8E/s640/Milk+Tart.jpg

Subclass of pie.

Also even if it wasn't a pie, it still wouldn't be a cake. Basically that picture is just (pie) filling - no part of it is cake at all.

404 Tart Not Found

It's neither a "small, fruit pie" (since it's not pie) nor does it have a pastry crust (see above) so it does not meet the definition of a pie.

True, it's not cake either. Although it does come close to meeting a definition of cake: "a shaped or molded mass of other food".

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Some of it's edible, but cream cheese just doesn't taste all that good to me.

If your cheesecake tastes like cream cheese, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Dumac]

404 Tart Not Found

It's neither a "small, fruit pie" (since it's not pie) nor does it have a pastry crust (see above) so it does not meet the definition of a pie.

True, it's not cake either. Although it does come close to meeting a definition of cake: "a shaped or molded mass of other food".

That is a terrible definition of cake. Cakes rise, there is a whole agent subculture to cake baking. Simply throwing a mass of something on a plate does not constitute a cake.

You definitions are out of whack. Pie crust isn't necessary for tarts, and tarts don't have to be fruit. Have you studied culinary at all, or do you just get definitions from a dictionary?

It comes much more closer to pie (and in fact is a pie in most cases), since it is just pie filling with various degrees of pie crust.

 

[BoomerD]

404 Tart Not Found

It's neither a "small, fruit pie" (since it's not pie) nor does it have a pastry crust (see above) so it does not meet the definition of a pie.

True, it's not cake either. Although it does come close to meeting a definition of cake: "a shaped or molded mass of other food".

so it's more like a baked custard pie?

 

[Dumac]

To those that call it pie: I am going to rape you with a sharp rusty spatula. I will not be gentle. I will use lube; I'm not totally without a heart.

CheeseCAKE, bitches.

What a sad world you live in. You really are arguing just based on the name?

See: walnut, peanut, coconut, horned toad, tin foil, catgut, velvet ant, head cheese, egg cream, koala bears, jellyfish, ringtail cats, french horns, chinese checkers, etc

 

[Numenorean]

Buttery baked crust? Check. Filling? Check. Tasty? Double check. My god!! Cheesecake IS pie!!!!

No. There is no buttery baked crust in cheesecake. It's usually a graham type of crust. It's not a pastry crust like pie. Yes there is butter in both, but totally different crusts.

 

[Leros]

To those that call it pie: I am going to rape you with a sharp rusty spatula. I will not be gentle. I will use lube; I'm not totally without a heart.

CheeseCAKE, bitches.

Which end of the spatula will you be raping with?

 

[sactoking]

That is a terrible definition of cake. Cakes rise, there is a whole agent subculture to cake baking. Simply throwing a mass of something on a plate does not constitute a cake.

You definitions are out of whack. Pie crust isn't necessary for tarts, and tarts don't have to be fruit. Have you studied culinary at all, or do you just get definitions from a dictionary?

It comes much more closer to pie (and in fact is a pie in most cases), since it is just pie filling with various degrees of pie crust.

Fish cake? Crab cake? Yeast cake? Those are all cakes that fit the definition given.

A tart w/o a pastry crust isn't a tart, just like a pie w/o a pastry crust isn't a pie.

Cheesecake is a baked custard. It's no more a pie than lemon bars or ice cream, which are also both custard-based. In the instance that you add a graham cracker crust to your cheesecake, it's still not pie. In fact, cheesecake with graham cracker crust is almost exactly like lemon bars, culinarily speaking, and nobody contends those are pie. Hell, "pocket pies" like Home Run Pie w/chocolate or vanilla filling are more of a pie than cheesecake.

 

[alfa147x]

Wtf I dont see crust

Just in case you missed it

 

[Ichinisan]

How is cheesecake a pie?

This is cheesecake:

Not that childish shit made with pie crust.

Hey guess what. That looks like a pie, not a cake.

Also even your picture has crust on the bottom.

Wtf I dont see crust

Just in case you missed it

It sure looks like crust to me.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Yeah I don't know what to say if you don't see crust in that image. It's clearly there.

 

[Dirigible]

Which end of the spatula will you be raping with?

The whole thing is going in, so both ends I guess. The one end is wider and pointier. The other end has a smaller diameter and is all splintery.

What a sad world you live in. You really are arguing just based on the name?

See: walnut, peanut, coconut, horned toad, tin foil, catgut, velvet ant, head cheese, egg cream, koala bears, jellyfish, ringtail cats, french horns, chinese checkers, etc

Please PM me your home address, and specify which end of the spatula you want to receive first.

 

[Eos]

Simply break down the components of pie, cake, and cheescake.

Crust:

Flour, shortening, salt, and water vs. no crust at all vs. crumbs of graham crackers, sugar and butter.

Above the crust (filling):

Sugar, flour, cinnamon, nutmeg, apples, vs. flour, sugar, baking soda, baking powder, salt, oil eggs, vanilla, cocoa vs. cream cheese, sugar, eggs, vanilla.

 

[Crono]

Cheesecake is pie, or close enough.

In any case, they are both awesome. Thread need not exist.

 

[Leros]

The whole thing is going in, so both ends I guess. The one end is wider and pointier. The other end has a smaller diameter and is all splintery.

Well, I must defend my view that cheesecake is pie.

*bites lip* just do it and be quick....

 

[bunnyfubbles]

its called cheesecake for a reason - pie is gay and nasty, so they wanted it to be associated with the much more awesome cake

 

[zerocool84]

I've never really liked cheesecake/cheesepie. Some of it's edible, but cream cheese just doesn't taste all that good to me. No, I don't care much for cream cheese frosting on carrot cake either.

I like apple pie best...made with a variety of apples, not just one kind.

Not liking Cheesecake is the same as not liking America. Love it or leave it.

 

[BoomerD]

Not liking Cheesecake is the same as not liking America. Love it or leave it.

Wait...you're associating America with a dessert invented in another country?

http://inventors.about.com/od/cstartinventions/a/Cheesecake.htm

"Cheesecake is believed to have originated in ancient Greece. Historians believe that cheesecake was served to the athletes during the first Olympic Games held in 776 B.C. However, cheese making can be traced back as far as 2,000 B.C., anthropologists have found cheese molds dating back to that period. Alan Davidson, author of the Oxford Companion to Food, wrote that, "cheesecake was mentioned in Marcus Porcius Cato's De re Rustica around 200 BCE and that Cato described making his cheese libum (cake) with results very similar to modern cheesecake."

The Romans spread cheesecake from Greece to across Europe. Centuries later cheesecake appeared in America, the recipes brought over by immigrants.

Cream Cheese
In 1872, cream cheese was invented by American dairymen, William Lawrence of Chester, N.Y., who accidentally developed a method of producing cream cheese while trying to reproduce a French cheese called Neufchatel. William Lawrence distributed his brand in foil wrappers from 1880 under the name of the Empire Company."

 

[Dirigible]

Well, I must defend my view that cheesecake is pie.

*bites lip* just do it and be quick....

You're an honorable man.

I'd say I won't enjoy this any more than you will, but that'd be a lie because for you it'll be excruciatingly painful and will include internal bleeding, while for me it'll just be a little distasteful.

Perhaps we could enjoy a delicious baked cheese-based dessert afterwards and be friends.

 

[alfa147x]

It sure looks like crust to me.

ok fine. IT's not surrounded by a PIE CRUST.

 

[Gillbot]

"cheescake"

 

[IGemini]

Am I the only one noticing that shorty posted a pic of key lime pie, and not cheesecake?

 

[Crono]

Am I the only one noticing that shorty posted a pic of key lime pie, and not cheesecake?

No, I noticed that.

Key lime cheesecake...err, pie... is delicious.

Mmm, key lime pie *drools*

 

[shortylickens]

Am I the only one noticing that shorty posted a pic of key lime pie, and not cheesecake?