Checking back in on a feature lost from the upgrade . . .

episodic

Lifer
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Back during the upgrade it was mentioned in a few months we would be able to get the:

Sort by date posted feature rather than by date bumped back.

I've made a go of it as is, but I really miss this feature. I've been patient, thought I'd ask for an update :)

Thanks!
 

Jason Clark

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The only thing we may do is order messages in a thread ascending or descending. Due to the lack of popularity and issues that sorting the threads causes with paging we are not doing that anytime soon.

L8r
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Are you surprised, really? Fuse Talk has done an INCREDIBLE job on making the versions, taking huge steps in the right direction... until now. It seems like the priority is pumping out the newest version instead of getting right what everyone wants. :-\
 

Jeff7

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I miss this too - too often it seems that I now post to ancient threads, that just keep getting brought back because someone else sees a recent reply to what is actually a dead/answered thread.
 

ProviaFan

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I guess I'm not seeing what advantage(s) was/were brought about by deleting the code that was already there to implement this feature. Unless the whole architecture was changed so much that the existing code wouldn't work, and now with the new architecture it's impossible to implement the same feature without a lot of work (or another internal architecture change again)... but to me that would seem like a bad design decision.

Oh well, I know full well that the software won't change, and new versions will probably get even "worse" from our perspective, as the thing seems to be now that we the members at AnandTech have to be continual beta testers of stuff that's really intended for enterprise users, but even though the software will keep getting "better" for the enterprise users (and thus less suitable for a tech forum), it's the great members here that keep me around (or I think I would have left with a lot of others when this latest "new and improved" software was first installed, with all the bugs that hadn't been ironed out in the beta... er... alpha test that was conducted before it was installed).

Cheers, and good luck selling this stuff to the Enterprise users that you're targeting. I hope they like it, because I sure don't. ;)
 

anandfan

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Due to the lack of popularity
Doubt that. Have you done a survey to see which new feature users actually want? I used to come here daily, but since the upgrade only come back to see if the sort feature has been fixed (yes, FIXED; I consider the current state broken as compared to the pre-upgrade software). No way I want to come here daily just to wade through all the old topics with their foolish "me-too" replies. At one time, I even liked this forum that I became a subscriber. Wouldn't do it now...
 

Aves

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Originally posted by: anandfan
Due to the lack of popularity
Doubt that. Have you done a survey to see which new feature users actually want?
I've often wondered how FT determines that. Seems to me that it's from people who don't actually use the software.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: aves2k
Originally posted by: anandfan
Due to the lack of popularity
Doubt that. Have you done a survey to see which new feature users actually want?
I've often wondered how FT determines that. Seems to me that it's from people who don't actually use the software.

Or their information comes from forums with a much smaller user base.

Think about it. If there are only 500 users in a forum, there's less chance that any particular feature will be wanted. But with 50000 users, that's a different story.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Or their information comes from forums with a much smaller user base.

Think about it. If there are only 500 users in a forum, there's less chance that any particular feature will be wanted. But with 50000 users, that's a different story.
I'd say that may be a factor, but also consider that the majority of Fusetalk installations may be in places where the forum is used as a means rather than an end (well, how do I say this... where people use the forum every now and then for tech support or whatever, as opposed to spending most of their life on it like some around here do), and as such those kind of non-hardcore people are most likely not interested in tweaking their forum viewing experience to be as fast and pleasant as possible. Not to mention that most of them probably don't even know / don't think about how to change those advanced options.
 

Splork

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Another vote for the ascending/descending feature! I miss it dearly! Thanks.

-sp
 

yozhik2003

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Another vote here. HotDeals is about 100 times less usable since this functionality was broken :(
 

happyhelper

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Originally posted by: cdub
Don't forget guys there is the Thread Sorter. Does the same thing it's just kind of slow. <BR><BR>I also greatly miss the old sort method.

The link to the thread sorter is not working for me!

Has the 3rd party thread sorter been moved or closed?

Did Anandtech ever fix this issue? Can I sort by newest thread somehow, now?

Please help!
 

erikistired

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yeah it's too bad anand doesn't go with better software, perhaps one that listens to it's users instead of saying "too much work, so we'll say it's not popular and scrub it".

ah well, there's another thread about this with a link to the thread sorter.
 

episodic

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Originally posted by: Jason Clark
Nope, FuseTalk sorts by the most recently replied to thread.

A few months ago you had replied after the upgrades the feature would be back. . . What happened? Just curious. I know you are sticking by the 'feature was not used much' thing, but seriously, you can't see how it is an invaluable tool for forum areas like fs/ft and hot deals where you have to sort through the first 3-5 pages or more just to wade through all the 'bumps' and 'me too stuff' to see what is new?
 

Jason Clark

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Actually we said some functionality would return, the most popular (sorting messages within a topic) has returned. Ive passed along your request, we'll see if it can get thrown back in, in a later buid.

fisher, what you don't understand is how difficult changes are in a product of this size, the reason it was taken out over a year ago now, is due to use and technical limiations in the compiled procedure. This forum is the only forum we have out of thousands, that wants that functionality back. We are listening, and it is in the suggestion box. We hardly ignore users, if you really believe that then you don't really watch what goes on here when we spend countless nights ensuring the software does what is required. We can't please everyone, but we sure as heck try. This product is massive, and now there are two versions and in multiple languages, a change like the one request requires changes in the dictionaries, which need to go out to translators, then the code needs to be put in place and then sent off to the QA teams we use. This takes time, and we're literally days away from final code on the current update, so it's too late right now.

Cheers.

We here ya :)