Check this out: "The Truth about Trucks" Ford F-150 vs the competition

[Sentinel]

Originally posted by: Paulson
Eh, I'd still drive a chevy just because it looks better haha

drive it because it's reliable

 

[32fear]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: jagec
Very good marketing. He didn't talk much about the engine or transmission, though

the 4.6L they put in them has no balls. Why do they even bother with a 4.2L V6.

As much as I like the rest of the truck, the engines seem pretty far behind dodge and nissan.

Have you driven the 4.6? It is tough as nails. I don't even want to get into this one. It's not a race car, it's a truck. Therefore, torque>horsepower.

 

[Calin]

Do you use your Jeep for offroading? That would make my argument void

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Calin
Do you use your Jeep for offroading? That would make my argument void

Yes.

But a large rear axle is also useful when towing/hauling or for vehicles with large amounts of torque.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: jagec
Very good marketing. He didn't talk much about the engine or transmission, though

the 4.6L they put in them has no balls. Why do they even bother with a 4.2L V6.

As much as I like the rest of the truck, the engines seem pretty far behind dodge and nissan.

Thats why they have options. You do realize the 4.6 is not the largest engine they put in those, do you? the 4.6 is very adequate for normal day to day hauling and city driving. The 4.2 liter v6 when mated with a 5 speed manual works extremely well also (my brother in law has one). I have a 97 f150 with the 5.4 (detuned version of the 99+ 5.4 liter engines), and it pulls a car trailer loaded with a ford explorer without breaking a sweat. I've owned it a year and had absolutely no maintenance problems with it and it has 154k miles on it

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Yeah, definately a marketing thing. Selective things were sure left out. I'd really like to see an independent study like this of ford, chevy and dodge. Nissan and Toyota are not real trucks.

Yes, because the Titans 9700lbs towing capacity is weaksauce.
All the trucks are so close that it basically boils down to looks and extra features. Car and driver did a test between all the full size trucks and the Ford didn't fare to well. They also broke the bumper when they jumped a sand dune. To be fair, the Dodge got stuck and had to be pulled out by the Titan.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: 32fear
Have you driven the 4.6? It is tough as nails. I don't even want to get into this one. It's not a race car, it's a truck. Therefore, torque>horsepower.

In fact I have. IMO it doesn't drive like it has a lot of torque. Low RPM throttle response is not particularly strong. Otherwise it drives like a tall, big ass car, which is kind of nice.

Originally posted by: slag
Thats why they have options. You do realize the 4.6 is not the largest engine they put in those, do you? the 4.6 is very adequate for normal day to day hauling and city driving. The 4.2 liter v6 when mated with a 5 speed manual works extremely well also (my brother in law has one). I have a 97 f150 with the 5.4 (detuned version of the 99+ 5.4 liter engines), and it pulls a car trailer loaded with a ford explorer without breaking a sweat. I've owned it a year and had absolutely no maintenance problems with it and it has 154k miles on it

Even their top engine isn't as strong as the ram/titan. Plus the trannies are all 4 speed autos regardless, where as the previously mentioned two have 5 speed autos.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: B00ne
Mostly he is going on abouit size differences thickness bulkier built. That doesnt mean that much without, metallographic crosssection to examine the material, without hardness and/or tensile tests. It could mean that the Fords are alot stronger but it could also mean Ford is using cheaper steel.

Yeah, I especially liked when he showed how the ALUMINUM component on the Ford was bigger than the STEEL components on the other trucks

I'd certainly hope so!

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: edro13

Originally posted by: icejunkie
I'd still take a RAM 1500 over a POS Ford...

Last summer, on my trip to North Carolina... we went through some trails in a convoy of trucks. "The new guy" had a RAM 1500 and was leading the pack... A tree was in the middle of the trail, so he hooked to it with a log chain (brand new, never used). There was a big crunch sound when he hit it, and the tree was still where it lay, attached was the chain and bumper!

Since he didn't have a bumper anymore, one of the F250s hooked to the tree and pulled it away...

Ford still and always will make a superior truck. (I like Chevy too...)

My dad had to pull a Ford whose engine died, out of a slight ditch, with his Silverado. So ha!

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Haha, usually he points out the fault of one particular car like the Tundra or Silverado per section, but never shows the Ford parts being superior to the rest as a whole.

heh I was thinking that too. The F150 is a nice truck, but this selective comparison is kind of obvious.

Like the Subura Outback adds?

 

[hemiram]

Why wouldn't they just hire some actor instead of this supposed "journalist" who is nothing more than a shill?

I kind of like how the Dodge is barely mentioned, except for the frame stuff and the tailgate "issue". LOL If you need help lifting the tailgate, buy a Ford! My neighbor had (he's dead now) no problems working the tailgates on his Rams...with only one arm.

The "front structure" thing amuses me too. My 2000 GMC did just fine when it took out a 95 Camaro and a Cavalier too. If my truck hadn't broken the left front wheel and blown the tire, it would have been drivable after the wreck. The frame was tweaked a little, but not much. The bodyshop caused as many problems as the wreck did, so I decided to get rid of it. My two choices were between a 2003 GMC Sierra (the Chevy is too damn ugly now), and what I bought, a 2003 Dodge Ram. I would have bought the GMC, if the dealer hadn't played games with me. When they did, I gave them one last opportunity to sell me a new truck and they ended up leaving me standing out in the middle of the lot, far enough I couldn't hear the PA announce that the courtesy van was leaving, so I had to dick around for 2 hours till it came back. Being a day sleeper, I was very annoyed to put it mildly. Besides that, I liked the Dodge slightly better anyway, but had a major lemon Dodge in the past and I was spooked. But when the GMC (I wouldn't ever buy anything from the other local GMC dealer) guys dissed me, it was an easy choice.

I went to the Dodge dealer, told them what I wanted, and more importantly, what I didn't want, and 3 days later, picked up my truck that they brought in from Indiana. The price was ok right off, I told them I didn't want to spend a day dancing around about the price, and they came back about 300 higher than I had hoped. I ended up getting 200 of that off, and made the deal over email. The printer at the dealer screwed up over and over again, and that made the paperwork take forever the night we picked it up. It was funny actually.

I actually like the present F150, something I couldn't say before. It's too slow though, the 5.4 is a slug, and the bed is way too high to be of any real use. The GM and Dodge are high enough to make reaching over a pain.