Check out this image I did for school and this neat php page I did for fun

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Czar

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<< I love that comment box form! How'd ya do it, if you don't mind me asking? :) >>


Using cascading style sheets, best thing to happen to html since tables :)
 
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Ornery

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Good stuff!

I'll never be able to do decent art like that, but I'd like to dabble in PHP. I know HTML on a novice level. How long will it take to get PHP under my belt?
 
Platypus

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<< Good stuff!

I'll never be able to do decent art like that, but I'd like to dabble in PHP. I know HTML on a novice level. How long will it take to get PHP under my belt? >>



Do you know C or C++?
If so then not long.

The only thing about PHP that is hard is just getting used to the syntax, which is very C like. It isn't very hard at all actually, and it makes sense.
 
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jjones

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Nice work Czar; very clean and subtle style. And I love php and css; very potent for creating professional web pages.
 
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jjones

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Czar, btw, that page causes my 4.75 version of Netscape to crash. Have you checked it in Netscape?
 
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Czar

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<< Czar, btw, that page causes my 4.75 version of Netscape to crash. Have you checked it in Netscape? >>


cool, I made a site that crashes browsers :) I dont have netscape installed here, I just checked it out in Opera6 and IE5 on windows and then Netscape6 and IE5 on a Mac.

What happens exactly?
 
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jjones

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I get the illegal operation window and then it shuts down. By the way, I was looking at that page code and was wondering; does Netscape 6 now recognize the style, position tags? I'm pretty sure that my older 4.75 version of Netscape doesn't recognize that particular style tag.

BTW, I hate Netscape but I usually check cool web pages in my 4.75 version just to see how they come out. I use that version as my lowest common denominator when creating pages that are supported in both IE and Netscape.
 
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Netscape 4.76 breaks EVERYTHING.
I've been spending long days getting my PHP pages working with Netscape as well(v6 works fine).
If it were up to me and not my client, I'd just put a warning on the index page stating that it is NOT compatible with Netsape 4.76 and lower 'cause they're junk. ;)
 
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Czar

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okeeey, a bigger crash than I would have expected, not sure if its because of the css or the php though.

But who actually uses netscape4.75, I remember when I changed from that one to IE4 and that was years ago. I guess I'd better start adding a little php script that just writes just out "GET A NEW BROWSER YOU NEANDERTHAL" if it sees that the user is using anything that old
rolleye.gif
:p
 
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jjones

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<< Netscape 4.76 breaks EVERYTHING. >>


ROFLMAO! :D Yeah, as much as I like competition in the marketplace, as a designer, browsers are one area that I wished everyone just used IE. I've always enjoyed designing around IE because it was more forgiving and you could generally do more with less code.
 
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<< I love that comment box form! How'd ya do it, if you don't mind me asking? :) >>


Using cascading style sheets, best thing to happen to html since tables :) >>



I've been working with web design for several years now, getting pretty efficient in it now, but I just learned CSS the past couple of days :Q

Forget tables, it's the best thing since sliced bread :D After using CSS, how can I NOT use it?
 
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jjones

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<< I guess I'd better start adding a little php script that just writes just out "GET A NEW BROWSER YOU NEANDERTHAL" >>


LOL. :)
 
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Ornery

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Opened fine with Netscape 6 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01)

Thanks for the links. I don't know C or C++, so I guess I'm screwed, eh? I played with Basic a LONG time ago, so I guess I could get the gist of it. Too bad it's not easy, cause it seems like a very good solution to HTML's shortcomings. And what's this about CSS? Oh man, I'm too old to absorb this!
 
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notfred

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I found a bug in your PHP script. Look at your page. You need to remove newline characters before writing your text file.
 
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Czar

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Ornery,
Think of css as an extension of html. Instead of doing <table border=1> and so on you can either put it in a stylesheet like
<style>
table { border:1px }
</style>

or
<style>
.tableborder { border:1px }
</style>
and then in the table use
<table class=tableborder>

or put it like this
<table style="border:1px">

It is just sooo much more powerful, you can put text over images, or over texts, put everything exactly where you want :)
 
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Czar

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<< I found a bug in your PHP script. Look at your page. You need to remove newline characters before writing your text file. >>


you bastard :p

fixing
 
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Ornery

Lifer
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  • or put it like this
    <table style="border:1px">
<sigh>, I feel like my dad, who is loathe to learning much new about his PC. I WILL learn PHP, CSS and whatever else I may need in the future, but it will be work, not just curious fun. I learned what I know now because of a hunger for solving the "puzzle" aspect of it all. Now, for some reason, it just seems like work.

Hey, at least I can learn that stuff eventually, but I'll never have the "knack" for that kind of art work, though I still have the desire. My older son laughs at my feeble attempts at design. Wah! I'm doing the best I can... :(

Keep up the good work there, Czar!
 
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