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Check out Kerry's voting record since 2003

Riprorin

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And here's why the taxpayers are grateful:

Sen. John Kerry: 375 Votes For Higher Taxes
The following chronicles the Votes Senator John Kerry (D-MA) has cast in favor of higher taxes in
the past dozen years. Votes for higher taxes include, but are not limited to:
? Votes for tax increases
? Votes against tax cuts
? Votes to reduce the size of a tax cut
? Votes against repealing tax hikes
? Votes against making tax cuts permanent
? Votes for watered-down, Democrat ?tax cut? substitutes
(N.B. ? current as of March 16, 2004)

Link
 

sMiLeYz

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very convincing, infact I'm so convinced... I'm going to vote for Kerry!
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
And here's why the taxpayers are grateful:

Sen. John Kerry: 375 Votes For Higher Taxes
The following chronicles the Votes Senator John Kerry (D-MA) has cast in favor of higher taxes in
the past dozen years. Votes for higher taxes include, but are not limited to:
? Votes for tax increases
? Votes against tax cuts
? Votes to reduce the size of a tax cut
? Votes against repealing tax hikes
? Votes against making tax cuts permanent
? Votes for watered-down, Democrat ?tax cut? substitutes
(N.B. ? current as of March 16, 2004)

Link

More bullsh*t and lies...of course, what else would one expect from the Bush campaign site?!?!


Rip, go checkout http://www.factcheck.org for once. You really need to stop making a fool of yourself.
 

Harvey

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You want to talk about who was missing from where? I'll see your Kerry voting record and raise you Bush's MILITARY record of absence for 1972. His military records mysteriously REappeared, but it seems he still wasn't present and accounted for when he said he was on duty in Alabama.

Instead of flying airplanes, it looks like this chickenhawk just flew the coop. :Q
Bush's Military Records Fail to Dispel AWOL Charges

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some of President Bush's missing Air National Guard records during the Vietnam War years, previously said to be destroyed, turned up on Friday but offered no new evidence to dispel charges by Democrats that he was absent without leave.

His whereabouts during his service as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard in the United States during the Vietnam War have become an election-year issue. Bush's Democratic presidential challenger, John Kerry, is a decorated Vietnam War veteran.

The Pentagon, which had announced two weeks ago that the payroll records had been accidentally destroyed, blamed a clerical error for previous failure to find them.

In May 1972, Bush moved to Alabama to work on a political campaign and, he has said, to perform his Guard service there for a year. But other Guard officers have said they have no recollection of ever seeing him there.

Bush was the son of a U.S. congressman at a time when National Guard service was seen as a way for the privileged to avoid being drafted for Vietnam War duty.

Questions over his record resurfaced this year as Bush sought, in the midst of the Iraq war, to cast himself as a "war president" in his drive to win reelection on Nov. 2.

The documents released on Friday by the Pentagon included two faded computerized payroll sheets showing Bush was not paid during the latter part of 1972 and offer no evidence to place Bush in Alabama during the latter part of 1972.

Still, White House spokesman Trent Duffy said: "They show the president served in the military and completed his service, which is why he received an honorable discharge."

"UNANSWERED QUESTIONS"

The Democratic National Committee called the "supposed discovery" of Bush's payroll records late on Friday -- on the eve of the Democratic National Convention -- "highly questionable."

"If the Bush administration continues to search, maybe they'll find answers to the long list of unanswered questions that remain about George W. Bush's time in the Air National Guard. Bush's military records seem to show up as randomly as he did for duty," said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera.

In February, the White House released hundreds of pages of Bush's military records. The White House included a footnote to those earlier records saying that files for the 3rd quarter of 1972 had apparently been lost in microfilm processing.

Defense Finance and Accounting Service spokesman Bryan Hubbard said the microfilm payroll records were found in a Denver facility.

"We're talking about a manual process for records that are over 30 years old," Hubbard said.

He said officials had previously looked in the wrong place for the records relating to the first quarter of 1969 and the third quarter of 1972, and concluded incorrectly that they had been destroyed.

Hubbard said that after the Pentagon announced two weeks ago that the records were lost, officials went back to double check, and found an "unlabeled binder" that led them to the right place.

The Pentagon had announced on July 9 that microfilm payroll records of large numbers of service members, including Bush, were ruined in 1996 and 1997 in a project to save large, brittle rolls of microfilm.
May I remind you of which candidate actually showed up for work to put his life on the line to serve his nation and was wounded in the line of duty. :cool:
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Harvey
You want to talk about who was missing from where? I'll see your Kerry voting record and raise you Bush's MILITARY record of absence for 1972. His military records mysteriously REappeared, but it seems he still wasn't present and accounted for when he said he was on duty in Alabama.
Bush's Military Records Fail to Dispel AWOL Charges

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some of President Bush's missing Air National Guard records during the Vietnam War years, previously said to be destroyed, turned up on Friday but offered no new evidence to dispel charges by Democrats that he was absent without leave.

His whereabouts during his service as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard in the United States during the Vietnam War have become an election-year issue. Bush's Democratic presidential challenger, John Kerry, is a decorated Vietnam War veteran.

The Pentagon, which had announced two weeks ago that the payroll records had been accidentally destroyed, blamed a clerical error for previous failure to find them.

In May 1972, Bush moved to Alabama to work on a political campaign and, he has said, to perform his Guard service there for a year. But other Guard officers have said they have no recollection of ever seeing him there.

Bush was the son of a U.S. congressman at a time when National Guard service was seen as a way for the privileged to avoid being drafted for Vietnam War duty.

Questions over his record resurfaced this year as Bush sought, in the midst of the Iraq war, to cast himself as a "war president" in his drive to win reelection on Nov. 2.

The documents released on Friday by the Pentagon included two faded computerized payroll sheets showing Bush was not paid during the latter part of 1972 and offer no evidence to place Bush in Alabama during the latter part of 1972.

Still, White House spokesman Trent Duffy said: "They show the president served in the military and completed his service, which is why he received an honorable discharge."

"UNANSWERED QUESTIONS"

The Democratic National Committee called the "supposed discovery" of Bush's payroll records late on Friday -- on the eve of the Democratic National Convention -- "highly questionable."

"If the Bush administration continues to search, maybe they'll find answers to the long list of unanswered questions that remain about George W. Bush's time in the Air National Guard. Bush's military records seem to show up as randomly as he did for duty," said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera.

In February, the White House released hundreds of pages of Bush's military records. The White House included a footnote to those earlier records saying that files for the 3rd quarter of 1972 had apparently been lost in microfilm processing.

Defense Finance and Accounting Service spokesman Bryan Hubbard said the microfilm payroll records were found in a Denver facility.

"We're talking about a manual process for records that are over 30 years old," Hubbard said.

He said officials had previously looked in the wrong place for the records relating to the first quarter of 1969 and the third quarter of 1972, and concluded incorrectly that they had been destroyed.

Hubbard said that after the Pentagon announced two weeks ago that the records were lost, officials went back to double check, and found an "unlabeled binder" that led them to the right place.

The Pentagon had announced on July 9 that microfilm payroll records of large numbers of service members, including Bush, were ruined in 1996 and 1997 in a project to save large, brittle rolls of microfilm.
May I remind you of which candidate actually showed up for work to put his life on the line to serve his nation and was wounded in the line of duty. :cool:

So that justifies all of the senate votes he has missed since 2003?

Do you think any employer cares what you did 35 years ago? After all, he's an employee of the people of Massachusetts, isn't he?
 

going5hole

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I've got a question. Why is it that there is a lot of screaming for people to defend Bush when you're bashing him, yet when something negative is shown about Kerry, you don't defend him, you instead turn it around to bash Bush once again? Why not, instead of turning the thread around to Bush, try and give a reason why he's missing his current job, other than "he's running for president, and doesn't have time to do his current job". I've never been able to get a promotion by skipping out on my current duties. He could have easily stepped down, he and his family aren't hurting for money.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: going5hole
I've got a question. Why is it that there is a lot of screaming for people to defend Bush when you're bashing him, yet when something negative is shown about Kerry, you don't defend him, you instead turn it around to bash Bush once again? Why not, instead of turning the thread around to Bush, try and give a reason why he's missing his current job, other than "he's running for president, and doesn't have time to do his current job". I've never been able to get a promotion by skipping out on my current duties. He could have easily stepped down, he and his family aren't hurting for money.
Rip simply enjoys flogging lifeless equines.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: going5hole
I've got a question. Why is it that there is a lot of screaming for people to defend Bush when you're bashing him, yet when something negative is shown about Kerry, you don't defend him, you instead turn it around to bash Bush once again? Why not, instead of turning the thread around to Bush, try and give a reason why he's missing his current job, other than "he's running for president, and doesn't have time to do his current job". I've never been able to get a promotion by skipping out on my current duties. He could have easily stepped down, he and his family aren't hurting for money.

:thumbsup:
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Harvey
You want to talk about who was missing from where? I'll see your Kerry voting record and raise you Bush's MILITARY record of absence for 1972. His military records mysteriously REappeared, but it seems he still wasn't present and accounted for when he said he was on duty in Alabama.
Bush's Military Records Fail to Dispel AWOL Charges

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some of President Bush's missing Air National Guard records during the Vietnam War years, previously said to be destroyed, turned up on Friday but offered no new evidence to dispel charges by Democrats that he was absent without leave.

His whereabouts during his service as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard in the United States during the Vietnam War have become an election-year issue. Bush's Democratic presidential challenger, John Kerry, is a decorated Vietnam War veteran.

The Pentagon, which had announced two weeks ago that the payroll records had been accidentally destroyed, blamed a clerical error for previous failure to find them.

In May 1972, Bush moved to Alabama to work on a political campaign and, he has said, to perform his Guard service there for a year. But other Guard officers have said they have no recollection of ever seeing him there.

Bush was the son of a U.S. congressman at a time when National Guard service was seen as a way for the privileged to avoid being drafted for Vietnam War duty.

Questions over his record resurfaced this year as Bush sought, in the midst of the Iraq war, to cast himself as a "war president" in his drive to win reelection on Nov. 2.

The documents released on Friday by the Pentagon included two faded computerized payroll sheets showing Bush was not paid during the latter part of 1972 and offer no evidence to place Bush in Alabama during the latter part of 1972.

Still, White House spokesman Trent Duffy said: "They show the president served in the military and completed his service, which is why he received an honorable discharge."

"UNANSWERED QUESTIONS"

The Democratic National Committee called the "supposed discovery" of Bush's payroll records late on Friday -- on the eve of the Democratic National Convention -- "highly questionable."

"If the Bush administration continues to search, maybe they'll find answers to the long list of unanswered questions that remain about George W. Bush's time in the Air National Guard. Bush's military records seem to show up as randomly as he did for duty," said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera.

In February, the White House released hundreds of pages of Bush's military records. The White House included a footnote to those earlier records saying that files for the 3rd quarter of 1972 had apparently been lost in microfilm processing.

Defense Finance and Accounting Service spokesman Bryan Hubbard said the microfilm payroll records were found in a Denver facility.

"We're talking about a manual process for records that are over 30 years old," Hubbard said.

He said officials had previously looked in the wrong place for the records relating to the first quarter of 1969 and the third quarter of 1972, and concluded incorrectly that they had been destroyed.

Hubbard said that after the Pentagon announced two weeks ago that the records were lost, officials went back to double check, and found an "unlabeled binder" that led them to the right place.

The Pentagon had announced on July 9 that microfilm payroll records of large numbers of service members, including Bush, were ruined in 1996 and 1997 in a project to save large, brittle rolls of microfilm.
May I remind you of which candidate actually showed up for work to put his life on the line to serve his nation and was wounded in the line of duty. :cool:

So that justifies all of the senate votes he has missed since 2003?

Do you think any employer cares what you did 35 years ago? After all, he's an employee of the people of Massachusetts, isn't he?


Well it seems 50% of American citizens care.
 

mPartialOb

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I suppose if I cared less about damaged US credibility, escalations in terror attacks, US isolation, the global anti-American backlash,my President being under criminal investigation by the DOJ, my VP being under fraud investigation by the SEC, my President's biggest campaign contributor being convicted and jailed,my President's policies resulting in US soldiers butt raping muslims ....and cared more about my wallet....your post might have moved beyond impotence.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Do you think any employer cares what you did 35 years ago? After all, he's an employee of the people of Massachusetts, isn't he?
The reality in Washington is, sometimes, members of Congress knowingly miss votes when they have other pressing matters and they know the vote won't be close, even if they're there.

The Senate is controlled by a Republican majority. Sometimes, being present for an actual vote has no effect on the outcome. OTOH, Bushwhacko claims he was present for legally required Reserve training. Was he? The pay records for this time don't offer any evidence he was paid for any time he was allegedly on active duty, time he SAYS he was on active duty, and they offer no other verification that he was.

Rip -- You're the one who's always on a tear about who's telling lies. So, who's lying, now, Bush-lite, or the Pentagon's own pay records?

Here's a better question -- When you're presented with conclusive proof that Bush is a liar, why would you still support him? If so, what excuse would you give yourself for doing so? Or would you keep holding out for some miniscule thread of an excuse from yet another looney fringe website to cling to your shattered fictions?

You're out there, son. :roll:
Originally posted by: Riprorin
They (the democrats) want us to fail as long as President Bush is in charge...
It has nothing to do with "wanting." Bush is already a failure.:thumbsdown: :p :thumbsdown:
 

Willian

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Originally posted by: mPartialObmy President's policies resulting in US soldiers butt raping muslims ....

You're right, We should have just cut their heads off as well. Eye for eye ;)
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Willian
Originally posted by: mPartialObmy President's policies resulting in US soldiers butt raping muslims ....

You're right, We should have just cut their heads off as well. Eye for eye ;)
Glad you think torture and murder is funny.

:roll:


Slink on back to the rest of the sheep at Hannity.com
 

Zephyr106

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Why can't Riporin combine his posts? It's getting tiring watching a monkey post links to news articles off the Bash Kerry News Feed.

Zephyr
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Why can't Riporin combine his posts? It's getting tiring watching a monkey post links to news articles off the Bash Kerry News Feed.

Zephyr

You've made a good point. But, feel that you're overlooking the fact that plenty of other posters (against Bush) post multiple threads in one day. Can't they be combined, too?

Are there double-standards here? I think so.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Why can't Riporin combine his posts? It's getting tiring watching a monkey post links to news articles off the Bash Kerry News Feed.

Zephyr
You've made a good point. But, feel that you're overlooking the fact that plenty of other posters (against Bush) post multiple threads in one day. Can't they be combined, too?

Are there double-standards here? I think so.
Not on the same topic, though. Those are on different issues.
 

Willian

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Willian
Originally posted by: mPartialObmy President's policies resulting in US soldiers butt raping muslims ....

You're right, We should have just cut their heads off as well. Eye for eye ;)
Glad you think torture and murder is funny.

:roll:


Slink on back to the rest of the sheep at Hannity.com

Im sure you'll be with the rest of your sheeple watching the DNC this week. I never said murder was funny, I like the way you liberals turn peoples words around.......
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Why do insist on calling me a liberal? (Not that being a liberal is a bad thing...it's actually a good thing.)

Is it because I'm anti-Bush? Must be. You're one of *those* types of people. I see. :roll:
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Why can't Riporin combine his posts? It's getting tiring watching a monkey post links to news articles off the Bash Kerry News Feed.

Zephyr
You've made a good point. But, feel that you're overlooking the fact that plenty of other posters (against Bush) post multiple threads in one day. Can't they be combined, too?

Are there double-standards here? I think so.
Not on the same topic, though. Those are on different issues.

Same topic or not, they all share one commonality and should be combined.
 

Willian

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Originally posted by: conjur
Why do insist on calling me a liberal? (Not that being a liberal is a bad thing...it's actually a good thing.)

Is it because I'm anti-Bush? Must be. You're one of *those* types of people. I see. :roll:


Being liberal isnt a bad thing...lol? These days it is. Just to get a fact out, I dont agree with everything Bush stands for. BUT 4 years of Kerry is not going to help this country thats for sure.........4 more years of Bush is far better then 4 from Kerry.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Why do insist on calling me a liberal? (Not that being a liberal is a bad thing...it's actually a good thing.)

Is it because I'm anti-Bush? Must be. You're one of *those* types of people. I see. :roll:

Simple answers for the simple minded...

What ever you do don't call them or Bush conservatives. That would be a misnomer as evidenced by growing government, police state, interventionist foriegn policy and increased tax deferments (debt).