Cheating Students (Update: Critique Requested)

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SneakyStuff

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First thing's first, give them the grade they deserve, a zero, then you should move their seats to somewhere you can see them easily. Just make sure you express your disgust, and reaffirm your stance on cheating. If they dont understand, tough. It's all up to you as to what you want to do to them, but yea, cheating is pretty pathetic. Better yet, just print out this entire post, and show them what real people think about cheaters, that should be a wakeup call :p
 

darktubbly

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Originally posted by: kitkit201
ehh.. its on an MS office course? the hell!
Don't ask. It's called 'Intro to Computer Applications,' but focuses on a monkey-see, monkey-do approach for the material. Here's Word. Here's where you click to center. Here's Excel. Repeat. Someone up there hates me.
 

johnjbruin

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Originally posted by: darktubbly
Originally posted by: kitkit201
ehh.. its on an MS office course? the hell!
Don't ask. It's called 'Intro to Computer Applications,' but focuses on a monkey-see, monkey-do approach for the material. Here's Word. Here's where you click to center. Here's Excel. Repeat. Someone up there hates me.

and you agreed to teach this.
i would seriously prefer training monkeys than teaching this.

and btw - soccer55 is on the money
 

darktubbly

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Originally posted by: johnjbruin
and you agreed to teach this.
i would seriously prefer training monkeys than teaching this.

and btw - soccer55 is on the money
Some days I can't tell the difference.

 

Soccer55

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I don't know if I would be so harsh in the wording of the message, but the right idea is there: you are aware of some cheating on a quiz, it will be dealt with in a proper fashion, and there will be stiff penalties if it happens again.

-Tom
 

Yossarian

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Your attempt to be cute or whatever in the warning comes off as quite lame. Just state the facts.
 

digitalsm

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Most universities have a policy that if you are caught cheating you have to talk to the Dean, and then you are put on academic probation. Caught cheating again, typically results in expulsion. Personally I think that if they are cheating in one class, they are cheating in other classes. I'd give them F's on the quiz, and file it with the Dean recommending academic probation.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Soccer55
I am also a TA and if this were to happen to me, I would give the student a zero and tell them that cheating on ANY academic work is a very serious offense in college that, if reported, could land them a meeting with judicial affairs and possibly an expulsion. Then tell said person that if you catch them cheating again, you will report it to your supervisor and take whatever steps are necessary after that. I would also make sure that this student's cheating is documented somehow, maybe through photocopies of the copier's quiz and the quiz that he/she copied off of.

Actually, a similar situation occured in my department a few days ago. The instructor (one of my fellow TAs) gave a quiz to his statistics class and he made 2 different versions of the quiz. Well, it turns out that one of his students decided to cheat and copied answers from the kid in the next row. The problem is that the kid in the next row had the other version, so the data sets were completely different thus producing answers that were way off. Needless to say it was very apparent that this student was cheating. The instructor asked a bunch of other TAs what he should do about the situation and ended up doing what I suggested above.

-Tom

LMAO, I did the exact same thing with a short 5 question quiz. Multiple choice. I separated them and corrected all of version A first, and had the suspected cheater's quiz on the top of version B.
I corrected them in front of the other students.
"ABACD... 100, nice job
ABACD... 100, nice job
ABACD... 100, nice job
ABACB... woops, 80, not too bad
ABACD... 100, nice job
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.
<then I got to the cheater's exam>
ABACD... ZERO!"

"huh? I had the same answers as everyone else, why didn't I get a 100?"
"Because you had a DIFFERENT test from everyone else."

You can imagine how embarrassed he was.