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shiner

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: shinerburke

Why? Because I believe in remaining true to a person you pledged to be with forever?
Let me say this one more time....the vows are....TILL DEATH DO YOU PART.

Dumbass.

I didn't say it was illegal or breaking marriage vows. Just that I don't agree with it.[/quote]
So you don't agree with it...good....if you ever get married....God forbid...and your spouse dies then by all means feel free to never remarry. However coming on here and calling a woman you do not know a bitch TO HER DAUGHTER is about as classy as taking a dump on stage in the middle of a symphony. Not only is is crass and mindless....it also stomps all over the feelings of this poor girl who's father died two years ago. You think it makes her feel good to hear a buffoon like you call her Mom, her last remaining parent, a bitch. Tell you what....here's something in return.

Your father is dog fvcking, piss brained, sh1t eating moron.

Your mother is a goat banging slut who can't keep her legs together and feeds on the bile of dead babies.

How's that feel?
 

Jumpem

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Honestly, I'm not sure what my Grandpa would have thought about it all. I was twelve when he died and I hadn't talked to him much about serious subjects.

As for the "til death do us part" portion. I believe that means you part physically for now. I believe in heaven and hell. So i'm prone to believe that in time you will be reunited with your spouse. So to me it is forever.

What religion do you subscribe to? Christianity makes it pretty clear that marriage is purely an earthly institution.

1 Corinthians 7:39 "A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord."

Also, Matthew 22:23-33
23That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24"Teacher," they said, "Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him. 25Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27Finally, the woman died. 28Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?"
29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you, 32'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'[1] ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
33When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.


Thanks. Do you have any more references?
 

Jumpem

Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Munchies

Ya jumpem thats a pretty fuked up opinion.

It may be, but that's how I've felt ever since I saw my Gramma turning the "W" for Walker upside down on the front of the barn, to make it an "M" for Miser.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: shinerburke

So you don't agree with it...good....if you ever get married....God forbid...and your spouse dies then by all means feel free to never remarry. However coming on here and calling a woman you do not know a bitch TO HER DAUGHTER is about as classy as taking a dump on stage in the middle of a symphony. Not only is is crass and mindless....it also stomps all over the feelings of this poor girl who's father died two years ago. You think it makes her feel good to hear a buffoon like you call her Mom, her last remaining parent, a bitch. Tell you what....here's something in return.

Your father is dog fvcking, piss brained, sh1t eating moron.

Your mother is a goat banging slut who can't keep her legs together and feeds on the bile of dead babies.

How's that feel?

That doesn't bother me at all. My real dad was a drunk and a wife beater. I haven't seen him at least five years. Don't care.

MY mom has caused me so much sadness and hurt that it would take a book to go over it all. Call her what you may.
 

shiner

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: shinerburke

So you don't agree with it...good....if you ever get married....God forbid...and your spouse dies then by all means feel free to never remarry. However coming on here and calling a woman you do not know a bitch TO HER DAUGHTER is about as classy as taking a dump on stage in the middle of a symphony. Not only is is crass and mindless....it also stomps all over the feelings of this poor girl who's father died two years ago. You think it makes her feel good to hear a buffoon like you call her Mom, her last remaining parent, a bitch. Tell you what....here's something in return.

Your father is dog fvcking, piss brained, sh1t eating moron.

Your mother is a goat banging slut who can't keep her legs together and feeds on the bile of dead babies.

How's that feel?

That doesn't bother me at all. My real dad was a drunk and a wife beater. I haven't seen him at least five years. Don't care.

MY mom has caused me so much sadness and hurt that it would take a book to go over it all. Call her what you may.
Ahhhhh ha.....now we see the root of the problem.

Ok....seriously man...I apologize for the things I said....trying to make a point. Anyway....I suggest you seek out a therapist. Nothing to be ashamed of. Really man you seem like you could use some help. Please try to find some.....for your own sake. Not trying to be an asshole here....just want you to get some help dealing with the feelings you have. Seriously man....life is too short to go through it with that kind of anger.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Ahhhhh ha.....now we see the root of the problem.

Ok....seriously man...I apologize for the things I said....trying to make a point. Anyway....I suggest you seek out a therapist. Nothing to be ashamed of. Really man you seem like you could use some help. Please try to find some.....for your own sake. Not trying to be an asshole here....just want you to get some help dealing with the feelings you have. Seriously man....life is too short to go through it with that kind of anger.

I've thought about it before. My parent's are the very strict "church is the only solution" type. MY step-dad always told me I wasn't really a Christian and going to hell and such. I was never allowed to have a discussion or express how I felt.

Justin - Turning sadness into hate since 1978.
 

BadNewsBears

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Munchies

Ya jumpem thats a pretty fuked up opinion.

It may be, but that's how I've felt ever since I saw my Gramma turning the "W" for Walker upside down on the front of the barn, to make it an "M" for Miser.


YOu are gunna have such a messed up life man. Any person in their right mind would not care if their spouse remarried after their death. WHat your wife dies of cancer slowly over 3 years, tells u to remary, and u dont, because u think it is wrong. WTF MAN. Thats fked up. My grandpa died in march and he would not have cared. Has nothing to do with love or anything, its about caring for that other person. If you trouly love your spouse you would want to have them remarry after your death.

If you still disagree, do not pass go, see therapist.
 

shiner

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Ahhhhh ha.....now we see the root of the problem.

Ok....seriously man...I apologize for the things I said....trying to make a point. Anyway....I suggest you seek out a therapist. Nothing to be ashamed of. Really man you seem like you could use some help. Please try to find some.....for your own sake. Not trying to be an asshole here....just want you to get some help dealing with the feelings you have. Seriously man....life is too short to go through it with that kind of anger.

I've thought about it before. My parent's are the very strict "church is the only solution" type. MY step-dad always told me I wasn't really a Christian and going to hell and such. I was never allowed to have a discussion or express how I felt.

Justin - Turning sadness into hate since 1978.

Take some action man. Get yourself some help. Sounds like your parent's messed you up. Hey it happens....nothing to be ashamed of. Find a way to get some help dealing with these issues and get yourself straightened out.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: shinerburke

Take some action man. Get yourself some help. Sounds like your parent's messed you up. Hey it happens....nothing to be ashamed of. Find a way to get some help dealing with these issues and get yourself straightened out.

:/
 

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: SampSon
Correct. I never said they agreed with me. Not sure where my parent's stand on it actually as I've never asked.
Right, which is why I said your posts show your blatent all-consuming selfishness.


I'm selfish because I don't agree with people remarrying and such?
No, It goes WAY deeper than that, and you know it.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: SampSon
Correct. I never said they agreed with me. Not sure where my parent's stand on it actually as I've never asked.
Right, which is why I said your posts show your blatent all-consuming selfishness.


I'm selfish because I don't agree with people remarrying and such?
No, It goes WAY deeper than that, and you know it.


Please expound. I genuinely try not to be selfish in my life. I try to help other people when I can. I simply have strong opinions and may come across as harsh when I express them.
 

I have expressed them in other posts.

You are putting your wants and desires before your grandmothers.
Her wants and needs and feelings are apparantly second to your moral standing and your belief in what vows are.
 

tooltime

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let your mom know (when she asks for it) what you think of him...i'm sure she'd watch out for you too.

sorry to hear about your father...
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: tooltime
let your mom know (when she asks for it) what you think of him...i'm sure she'd watch out for you too.

sorry to hear about your father...
thanks tooltime :)
 

OCNewbie

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Please expound. I genuinely try not to be selfish in my life. I try to help other people when I can. I simply have strong opinions and may come across as harsh when I express them.
Originally posted by: SampSon
I have expressed them in other posts.

You are putting your wants and desires before your grandmothers.
Her wants and needs and feelings are apparantly second to your moral standing and your belief in what vows are.

Jumpem, the above post explains it fairly well. I'll try to elaborate a bit. I have no idea how healthy of a relationship your grandmother and your grandfater had while they were alive. I don't know how long they were married, etc. And I'm not certain you could have a firm grasp on how happy they were together if you were 12 when your grandpa died either. I also don't know how old your grandma was when your grandfather died.

The thing is, perhaps they had a great relationship, and were together for many many happy years. It's a sad thing your grandpa died, I'm sure leaving your grandma suddenly in a very lonely situation. Now you were born in 1978, making you about 26 now, and you were 12 when grandpa died. So your grandma is still alive, 14 years later I presume. Most people would agree 14 years is a pretty long time, and who knows how much longer your grandma has to live.

Let me ask you what is more important. After your granpa dies, he can longer be there to support your grandmother, and contribute to her happiness like he once may have. Your grandmother, now alone, and perhaps having many years left to live, is now largely responsible for her own happiness. If by meeting another man, whom perhaps she sees very similar qualities in that your grandpa had, she is brought the companionship that she's surely missing, and can help make her life much happier for the remainder of her life on earth. Is it fair to deny her any level of happiness she may persue? She's still a human being, and still yearns for all the things everybody else does. And I believe why people are calling you selfish about this, is it appears that you would chose to deny her this happiness to bolster your own personal belief (which she apparently doesn't share) that she should be eternally bound to a single invididual even after their passing. Which certainly wouldn't be to her benefit, and would only set YOUR mind at ease, that's where the assumption of selfishness is derived.

I guarantee she did not marry the other man with the intentions to spite your grandfather who passed on. I would only have to assume she married this other man because he, like your grandfather, was a man that deeply cared for her, and was able to bring her a level of happiness perhaps near what your grandfather was able to, and she missed your grandfather, and the presence he brought to her life.

I guess the things you have to accept are. Your grandmother is a human being as much as anybody else is. She gets lonely like you or anyone else does. She is entitled to any level of personal happiness she can attain. Your grandfather has passed on, and there is nothing that can bring him back to your grandmother, or yourself, or anybody else. Your grandmother could either commit suicide, or continue living on this earth. She's made the reasonable choice, and thus with many years ahead of her she will try to live the most fulfulling life she can, including seeking the companionship she, as a human being, inherently yearns for.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Encryptic
I take it your mom is hard up for some nookie action. :p
ack! don't wanna think about the nookie.
my dad died 2 yrs ago. she is getting back into the dating scene. with her meeting these guys off internet sites i do feel better if she doesn't go alone.


Way for her to disrespect her dead husband. Bitch.
flamebait


Not at all. I have huge amounts of disrespect and disgust for people that don't respect their spouse.
she should never date again?


In my opinion, no. She vowed herself to your dad.
'until death do us part'...
 

OCNewbie

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Also sorry to hear about your father Mosh. And the best of luck to your mom in finding a nice quality individual that can bring much happiness to her life, and your life as well =)
 

cain

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
she is meeting up with a guy off the net from Michigan. we live in NY, and she is going to meet him there on our way to another destination.
weird, eh?


wait so you are going along with this? iwhats the whole story?
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: OCNewbie

Jumpem, the above post explains it fairly well. I'll try to elaborate a bit. I have no idea how healthy of a relationship your grandmother and your grandfater had while they were alive. I don't know how long they were married, etc. And I'm not certain you could have a firm grasp on how happy they were together if you were 12 when your grandpa died either. I also don't know how old your grandma was when your grandfather died.

The thing is, perhaps they had a great relationship, and were together for many many happy years. It's a sad thing your grandpa died, I'm sure leaving your grandma suddenly in a very lonely situation. Now you were born in 1978, making you about 26 now, and you were 12 when grandpa died. So your grandma is still alive, 14 years later I presume. Most people would agree 14 years is a pretty long time, and who knows how much longer your grandma has to live.

Let me ask you what is more important. After your granpa dies, he can longer be there to support your grandmother, and contribute to her happiness like he once may have. Your grandmother, now alone, and perhaps having many years left to live, is now largely responsible for her own happiness. If by meeting another man, whom perhaps she sees very similar qualities in that your grandpa had, she is brought the companionship that she's surely missing, and can help make her life much happier for the remainder of her life on earth. Is it fair to deny her any level of happiness she may persue? She's still a human being, and still yearns for all the things everybody else does. And I believe why people are calling you selfish about this, is it appears that you would chose to deny her this happiness to bolster your own personal belief (which she apparently doesn't share) that she should be eternally bound to a single invididual even after their passing. Which certainly wouldn't be to her benefit, and would only set YOUR mind at ease, that's where the assumption of selfishness is derived.

I guarantee she did not marry the other man with the intentions to spite your grandfather who passed on. I would only have to assume she married this other man because he, like your grandfather, was a man that deeply cared for her, and was able to bring her a level of happiness perhaps near what your grandfather was able to, and she missed your grandfather, and the presence he brought to her life.

I guess the things you have to accept are. Your grandmother is a human being as much as anybody else is. She gets lonely like you or anyone else does. She is entitled to any level of personal happiness she can attain. Your grandfather has passed on, and there is nothing that can bring him back to your grandmother, or yourself, or anybody else. Your grandmother could either commit suicide, or continue living on this earth. She's made the reasonable choice, and thus with many years ahead of her she will try to live the most fulfulling life she can, including seeking the companionship she, as a human being, inherently yearns for.

Thanks for taking the time to write all of that. :)
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Encryptic
I take it your mom is hard up for some nookie action. :p
ack! don't wanna think about the nookie.
my dad died 2 yrs ago. she is getting back into the dating scene. with her meeting these guys off internet sites i do feel better if she doesn't go alone.


Way for her to disrespect her dead husband. Bitch.
flamebait


Not at all. I have huge amounts of disrespect and disgust for people that don't respect their spouse.
she should never date again?


In my opinion, no. She vowed herself to your dad.
"'til death do us part".