Chambliss (R) Projected to Win Georgia Senate Runoff

[CaptnKirk]

What I mostly expect is that the GOP will use this as a 'The Conservative approach was always RIGHT'
and that they will attribute their loss to them not being Conservative enough.

The manipulation by Palin and Chambliss to rally the Klan Mentality in Georgia will seve as a focus,
and Saxby will think that by having won this reelection in the heart of the Confederacy,
he will take it upon himself to be the element of resistance to all of the country's effort to move forward behind a Democrat as President.

The Souths Gonna Rise Again - Mr. 41 to block the advancement of the entire nation.

We'll be dealing with this fool for the next 6 years, and each election cycle will loose more and more GOP Moderates
as the Extremist Fringe continues their purge of the Non-Beleivers - until they really do, in fact kill the entire GOP as a party.

Imteresting to note that the states that make up the least healthy, and least educated population in the entire country is,
in fact, that part of the country that constituted the Confederate States of America:

MAP

Health

The least healthy state is Louisiana. The bottom ten are West Virginia, New Mexico, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama,
Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Mississippi, and Louisiana.

Exceptions - New Mexico was not a state back then, and Oklahome was recognized as 'Indian Territory'.

Education

Roughly 28 percent of people living in Louisiana cannot read this sentence.
That's more than one in four people who aren't able to pick up a newspaper and understand it,
sign a lease or mortgage and protect themselves, or even check their children's homework.
Nationwide, only Mississippi has a higher percentage of residents unable to perform on the level of a fourth grader.
Mississippi's 30 percent illiteracy rate isn't much worse than the Bayou State's shameful ranking.

Yeah, it's only 2 of the examples of Southern States Education levels, but with a few exceptions, it holds true accross the 'Old South Block'.

Education/States

Another thing to consider - an uneducated population is easy to control. Bumper Sticker mentality.
They don't try to find out facts for themselves, and believe whatever propaganda is spewed thier way.

 

[Genx87]

Well I am sure they will try. I hope people within the republican party realize they can hold to their ideals while being inclusive of moderates.

That said this runoff showed the power of Obama imo. Obama got voters out and apparently many decided to run down the democrat ticket because of it making races very close or maybe even winning a few.

I would love to see a runoff in MN for Coleman vs Franken and see if we got similar results.

btw I dont necessarily believe the whole uneducated voter is easier to manipulate. It is all how it is presented. The first backers of the National Socialists in Germany were Doctors and Businessmen. Doctors believing in Eugenics, Businessmen as a hope to stop communism. Both were fed and believed a nice healthy diet of propaganda. A modern day equivalent situation where educated are manipulated are educated white liberals who believe the earth is going to melt tomorrow.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am sure they will try. I hope people within the republican party realize they can hold to their ideals while being inclusive of moderates.

That said this runoff showed the power of Obama imo. Obama got voters out and apparently many decided to run down the democrat ticket because of it making races very close or maybe even winning a few.

I would love to see a runoff in MN for Coleman vs Franken and see if we got similar results.

btw I dont necessarily believe the whole uneducated voter is easier to manipulate. It is all how it is presented. The first backers of the National Socialists in Germany were Doctors and Businessmen. Doctors believing in Eugenics, Businessmen as a hope to stop communism. Both were fed and believed a nice healthy diet of propaganda. A modern day equivalent situation where educated are manipulated are educated white liberals who believe the earth is going to melt tomorrow.

I don't believe for a minute that it relates at all to how Obama draws voters in the South, but it shows how fearful
the White Conservatives are when faced with a changing landscape of diversity.
The turnout was much lower, and the GOP was able to succusfully rally their base with the campaign support of the Republican Machine.
Obama didn't bother, as it was very easy to predict that this run-off was a cinch in the land of the rednecks, no quesion at all.

I would really like to see a run-off election in Minnesota, maybe we could really answer why ballots keep showing up in
the trunks of cars that tend to favor Franken - was it ballot stuffing by the Democrats or ballot hiding by the GOP.
Could actually shine the spot light on Voter Fraud.

Here in New Orleans Metro there is a run-off between William Jefferson and the 'other' candidates -
most black voters I have talked to say they are willingly voting for Jefferson, as they think there is something
really wrong when after more than 3 years the prosecutors will not bring the case to trial, and keep putting it off.
The original charges are from Pre-Katrina, and he's alreaqdy been through one election cycle and retained his seat.
The voting population in his district just palin and simply does not trust the GOP in this state, and their chosen representatives.

Louisiana Run-off

No Obama Help

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Before democrats controlled the congress rubberstamping was bad, filibuster good.

Once Democrats control the congress filibuster is bad, rubberstamping good.

Stop lying.

Democrats don't control congress and never have unlike your Republicans had full control from 2001 to 2006.

I'm slow, help me out here Dave. Can you please explain how the republicans had full control when they had lower numbers than the Dems will at the start of 2009?

Or can we say that Dems have full control come 2009? I need your help here

Dave, why do you keep ignoring my direct questions? I thought you were big on that...like in the gas price thread:

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Not as much as you can't answer direct questions.

 

[jonks]

The republican won. In Georgia. And it's news. That speaks for itself.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am sure they will try. I hope people within the republican party realize they can hold to their ideals while being inclusive of moderates.

That said this runoff showed the power of Obama imo. Obama got voters out and apparently many decided to run down the democrat ticket because of it making races very close or maybe even winning a few.

I would love to see a runoff in MN for Coleman vs Franken and see if we got similar results.

btw I dont necessarily believe the whole uneducated voter is easier to manipulate. It is all how it is presented. The first backers of the National Socialists in Germany were Doctors and Businessmen. Doctors believing in Eugenics, Businessmen as a hope to stop communism. Both were fed and believed a nice healthy diet of propaganda. A modern day equivalent situation where educated are manipulated are educated white liberals who believe the earth is going to melt tomorrow.

I don't believe for a minute that it relates at all to how Obama draws voters in the South, but it shows how fearful
the White Conservatives are when faced with a changing landscape of diversity.
The turnout was much lower, and the GOP was able to succusfully rally their base with the campaign support of the Republican Machine.
Obama didn't bother, as it was very easy to predict that this run-off was a cinch in the land of the rednecks, no quesion at all.

I think it relates to how enthusiasm for Obama helped the democrats in other races. Your story about Obama not bothering doesnt jive. Because in the general election they were 3% points away from each other. Why would anybody believe in a runoff it would widen to 15%? The bottom line imo is Obama first and foremost got people motivated to vote. Second democrat tickets were helped by him being on the ballot not only in the sense he motivated them to vote. But because they went down the line and voted a straight ticket.
The result is pretty stark. Without Obama on the ticket in Georgia the dropoff for democrats is about 50%.

The diversity thing will change with the republican party. Bush won in Florida by capturing a nice % of the Hispanic vote. The difference is Rove understood you need to talk to that demographic to win votes and they did. I am confident the republican party wont be a monolithic animal and corner itself into the white only party.

I would really like to see a run-off election in Minnesota, maybe we could really answer why ballots keep showing up in
the trunks of cars that tend to favor Franken - was it ballot stuffing by the Democrats or ballot hiding by the GOP.
Could actually shine the spot light on Voter Fraud.

I agree and I predicted this in the first thread about Franken possibly winning. Ballots showing up in cars, backrooms, dumpsters, you name it and it always appears to benefit Franken.

 

[Lemon law]

Jeeeez Gen X is delusional, "Franken possibly winning. Ballots showing up in cars, backrooms, dumpsters, you name it and it always appears to benefit Franken."

One 100 vote error was simply someone recording the wrong tally on a voting machine, it read 581 for Franken and the person down 481. Simple human error. Another very recent 37 vote error was due to a voting machine the failed in the middle of the day. And then no one counted the votes before it failed.

If GenX were informed and was following the Minnesota race, what he characterizes the problem being in Minnesota is simply is not the case. The Minnesota canvassing board is not even dealing with disputed votes yet, plenty of them, but the board or a court will have to address those after the regular recount finishes today.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Yeah, too bad. It was a long shot, but fun to dream for a little while. Even without the unstoppable block of 60, you still have a pretty damn powerful majority in the senate with 57 democrats. It will not be easy to muster all 40 Republican votes for filibuster every time, they will need to make some serious concessions.

Resident Republicans will still lie and say that Democrats have full control.

Hi Dave! Would you please reconcile your position now to the one you took in 2006 where you stated the Republicans had full control?


11/12/2006 10:37 PM

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Bahahahahahaha

never heard you complaining of radical right extremism when your heroes had full control.

Dave?

Dave?

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Robor
Not really a surprise - it's GA.