Chai Vang guilty on all 6 counts...

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
*shoots Svnla in the back for referring to caucasians as whiteys.

Hummm..did you see I said...*some whiteys, especially rednecks*?? I didn't say all caucasians/whites. Like I said before, I don't agree with what he did, but those white guys were not some boyscouts either. That guy didn't just unload his gun for no reason.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Hahaha, of course they were fleeing. The rednecks probably thought they'd ruffle up the FOBs feathers real good. He puts up a fight and they get the hell out of dodge.

I have to agree with this statement. Some whiteys, especially rednecks down here, think they are badasses and they can pick on Asians without any consequences. While I don't think what that guy did was right <he shouldn't shoot the ones in the back> but I bet from now on, whiteys in that area will think twice before they pick on Asians again.

Yeah, probably true...hell of a way to set a precedent though.

Anywhere we can buy "Free Vang" t-shirts? Or maybe t-shirt hell will have a "Vang: Kills Whities Dead" shirt.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Too bad. He had no reason to shoot unless he felt threatened, so killing whitey was justified in this case.

Wow, you sure are a complete effing 'tard.

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

*shoots Svnla in the back for referring to caucasians as whiteys.

sees Svnla get shot, runs to back of atv

 

[yourdeardaniel]

this guy had no chance with the all white jury.
what makes people think they can use racials slurs and assault someone and nothing will happen to them

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
*shoots Svnla in the back for referring to caucasians as whiteys.

Hummm..did you see I said...*some whiteys, especially rednecks*?? I didn't say all caucasians/whites. Like I said before, I don't agree with what he did, but those white guys were not some boyscouts either. That guy didn't just unload his gun for no reason.

A slur is a slur, and saying you're limiting it to only some of the group, but using it to define the group (Some whiteys, meaning they're all whiteys) pretty much indicates your mindset.

 

[Viper GTS]

Classy, my buddy...

You live in the United States. You and everyone else here has this wonderful thing called freedom of speech.

You may not like what I have to say, & I may not like what you have to say, but this freedom requires that we put up with one another.

Now as much as you may not like someone calling you racially derived names, you don't have much choice but to put up with them. Would I feel particularly bad if those doing the slurring got a punch in the face? Of course not. But I would support prosecution of the individual for assault (and perhaps buy them a beer when they get out).

If any response is somewhat understandable that MIGHT be. Still assault, but sometimes it's worth it.

Shooting an entire family is not justifiable in any way, shape, or form.

Even if his "they shot first" story is 100% true he was STILL not justified in shooting all of them. By all accounts they had one gun, & chasing them around shooting them in the back is NOT self defense.

None of us are in a position to determine what did or didn't happen, but even if we take him at his word he is STILL a murderer.

Viper GTS

 

[yourdeardaniel]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Hahaha, of course they were fleeing. The rednecks probably thought they'd ruffle up the FOBs feathers real good. He puts up a fight and they get the hell out of dodge.

I have to agree with this statement. Some whiteys, especially rednecks down here, think they are badasses and they can pick on Asians without any consequences. While I don't think what that guy did was right <he shouldn't shoot the ones in the back> but I bet from now on, whiteys in that area will think twice before they pick on Asians again.

tv said hmong and native americans reported the same harsh treatment
this guy just fought back

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
this guy had no chance with the all white jury.
what makes people think they can use racials slurs and assault someone and nothing will happen to them

You have the right to call me whatever you want.

I don't have the right to shoot you for it.

It's really that simple. I'm not justifying racist behavior but mere name calling is covered under free speech.

Viper GTS

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Too bad. He had no reason to shoot unless he felt threatened, so killing whitey was justified in this case.

Wow, you sure are a complete effing 'tard.

Why, because this guy cleaned up the gene pool a little?

When you have the right to bear arms in a melting pot like the US, you can expect things to get serious once in a while. Luckily people as lethal as Vang and as racist as the deceased hunters are few and far between (at least in my part of the country).

 

[ChaoZ]

Correction, you DON'T have the right to call me whatever you want.

 

[sandmanwake]

People need to learn that if they have to kill, don't get caught.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Correction, you DON'T have the right to call me whatever you want.

The US Supreme Court would beg to differ.

Doe v. University of Michigan, 1989.

Viper GTS

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

sygyzy

Classy? Is that you?

Viper GTS

LOL Nah man that ain't me.
But I don't agree with murder. While you know I apologized for my rant when this first happened, there ain't much doubt in my mind those men started it. For anyone to think a bunch of white dudes, and you hate the categorize folks, but they were probably rednecks, didn't start some stuff with that man your head is in the clouds or up somewhere else. I still believe they started it and the dude went off when the adrenaline kicked in and he was better than them. Man slaughter probably with a chance at parole after about 20, but murder of 6 "innocent" white guys is a joke. Those men were anything but innocent and thats not to excuse this nutcase either.

Funny to read racist generalizations from somebody who is supposedly so against racist generalizations. Oh, only if it is against a minority. Otherwise, it's cool. :roll:

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's really that simple. I'm not justifying racist behavior but mere name calling is covered under free speech.

what if i surround you in a parking lot with 10 other people, and i start yelling at you, that your kind should get out of here, and i got a gun, and you have a gun too. what are you going to do? this is in no way mere name calling.

 

[waggy]

good.

Even if the first people did shoot first at him (then those first murders should self defense) the others where he HUNTED them down and shot them in the back is murder.

racist remarks while vile are no excuse for murder.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Too bad. He had no reason to shoot unless he felt threatened, so killing whitey was justified in this case.

Wow, you sure are a complete effing 'tard.

Why, because this guy cleaned up the gene pool a little?

When you have the right to bear arms in a melting pot like the US, you can expect things to get serious once in a while. Luckily people as lethal as Vang and as racist as the deceased hunters are few and far between (at least in my part of the country).

You are definitely a tard. I hope someone of a different race shoots you in the back and tries to get off on a "race card"... that would be poetic.

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Correction, you DON'T have the right to call me whatever you want.

The US Supreme Court would beg to differ.

Doe v. University of Michigan, 1989.

Viper GTS

1989? It's time for them to update.

 

[sandmanwake]

Originally posted by: da loser

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
It's really that simple. I'm not justifying racist behavior but mere name calling is covered under free speech.

what if i surround you in a parking lot with 10 other people, and i start yelling at you, that your kind should get out of here, and i got a gun, and you have a gun too. what are you going to do? this is in no way mere name calling.

One difference though is that he was tresspassing on their land. Doesn't make any words they said to him right, but he shouldn't have been on other people's land. Now, if it was in a parking lot or his land and they started doing what you described, then I have no problem with killing people like that. However, like I said, don't get caught.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Too bad. He had no reason to shoot unless he felt threatened, so killing whitey was justified in this case.

Wow, you sure are a complete effing 'tard.

Why, because this guy cleaned up the gene pool a little?

When you have the right to bear arms in a melting pot like the US, you can expect things to get serious once in a while. Luckily people as lethal as Vang and as racist as the deceased hunters are few and far between (at least in my part of the country).

You are definitely a tard. I hope someone of a different race shoots you in the back and tries to get off on a "race card"... that would be poetic.

Good thing I'm not racist and I won't harrass people based on the color of their skin. Causes fewer confrontations.

If I get randomly murdered, that would be unfortunate, though.

 

[alchemize]

So everybody cool with Vang was cool with This guy too, right?

Just cleaning up the gene pool a little bit, right jpeyton?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Correction, you DON'T have the right to call me whatever you want.

The US Supreme Court would beg to differ.

Doe v. University of Michigan, 1989.

Viper GTS

1989? It's time for them to update.

Update? Do you think the constitution is somehow less appropriate now than 15 years ago? Or perhaps that interpretation should change because you don't want people to call you names?

Viper GTS

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Funny to read racist generalizations from somebody who is supposedly so against racist generalizations. Oh, only if it is against a minority. Otherwise, it's cool. :roll:

thats how society is today. watch tv. Its fine to make white jokes but to even utter a joke against a black or asian (unless you are black or asian) will get you fined and labeled.

Same with ATOT. where racist remarks against whites are thrown around but you even utter the N word or anything racist you get a vacation.


TV is much worse (though backwords) when a welthy, pretty white women is on TV she is plastere all over the news. But a poor black goes missing you do not see it.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: alchemize
So everybody cool with Vang was cool with This guy too, right?

Just cleaning up the gene pool a little bit, right jpeyton?

Goetz has admitted to making racial slurs three years before the shooting. But, he recently told NBC, he was using drugs at the time.

"I was a monster," he said. "But I wasn't a monster until several years alone in New York."

At the time, Goetz called New York a lawless city, and admitted shooting Cabey and the others, even to going back and shooting Cabey a second time. "You seem to be doing all right,'" Goetz recalled telling the young man. "'Here's another.'"

Goetz said it himself, he was a "monster". He was on drugs, an admitted racist, and should have been found guilty.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Classy, my buddy...

You live in the United States. You and everyone else here has this wonderful thing called freedom of speech.

You may not like what I have to say, & I may not like what you have to say, but this freedom requires that we put up with one another.

Now as much as you may not like someone calling you racially derived names, you don't have much choice but to put up with them. Would I feel particularly bad if those doing the slurring got a punch in the face? Of course not. But I would support prosecution of the individual for assault (and perhaps buy them a beer when they get out).

If any response is somewhat understandable that MIGHT be. Still assault, but sometimes it's worth it.

Shooting an entire family is not justifiable in any way, shape, or form.

Even if his "they shot first" story is 100% true he was STILL not justified in shooting all of them. By all accounts they had one gun, & chasing them around shooting them in the back is NOT self defense.

None of us are in a position to determine what did or didn't happen, but even if we take him at his word he is STILL a murderer.

Viper GTS

/thread
Case closed, there is no argument or even a legitimate counter point to what Viper just wrote.