CGW botches FEAR review!

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nRollo

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"Technical Difficulty
Despite being branded with nVidias logo, FEAR works better with the competitors cards. Case in point: The game autodetects medium settings on a GeForce 7800GTX-powered PC, while autodetecting maximum settings on another machine with the same specs and ATIs older Radeon 9800XT. No word yet from Monolith as of this writing on whether we can expect a patch"
CGW,#258, p.96

What would be interesting is if they're actually goofy enough to think the 9800XT "works" better than a 7800GTX, or they just think the failure of auto-detection is a big deal. Very strange.

Who knew? ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Rollo
"Technical Difficulty
Despite being branded with nVidias logo, FEAR works better with the competitors cards. Case in point: The game autodetects medium settings on a GeForce 7800GTX-powered PC, while autodetecting maximum settings on another machine with the same specs and ATIs older Radeon 9800XT. No word yet from Monolith as of this writing on whether we can expect a patch"
CGW,#258, p.96

What would be interesting is if they're actually goofy enough to think the 9800XT "works" better than a 7800GTX, or they just think the failure of auto-detection is a big deal. Very strange.

Who knew? ;)
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Its Like an Easter egg.
 
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FEAR's autodetection also thinks my old P4-3.06 (533FSB) was faster than my new AMD64 3500+ ... it went from autodetecting "High" CPU settings to "Medium" after I changed CPUs. It probably just looks at raw clock speed and calls it a day.

Of course, actual game performance has improved (albeit slightly -- my video card is the real bottleneck).

But that reviewer is smoking crack if he thinks a flaky autodetection algorithm is high on the "must-patch" list. It's not like you can't just change the settings yourself.
 
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Originally posted by: Somniferum
FEAR's autodetection also thinks my old P4-3.06 (533FSB) was faster than my new AMD64 3500+ ... it went from autodetecting "High" CPU settings to "Medium" after I changed CPUs. It probably just looks at raw clock speed and calls it a day.

Of course, actual game performance has improved (albeit slightly -- my video card is the real bottleneck).

But that reviewer is smoking crack if he thinks a flaky autodetection algorithm is high on the "must-patch" list. It's not like you can't just change the settings yourself.
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FEAR only checks clockspeeds of the CPUs, and the AMDs are clocked lower, so it thinks its not as good...
 
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Originally posted by: fierydemise
Why does this deserve posting? A magazine is inept, whats new?
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A better question might be:
A. Why do you think I care if you feel this "deserves" a posting?
B. Why are you so arrogant that you feel qualified to determine what "deserves" a posting?



It's video related, it's whack either way you look at it, if you don't find it interesting, you don't have to read it.

LOL-
Team FieryDemise- Forum Police!
 
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Maybe the 9800XT really is better than the 7800GTX, Rollo ;):Q
 
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Originally posted by: n7
Maybe the 9800XT really is better than the 7800GTX, Rollo ;):Q
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Willikers! Maybe I could trade my two for one of them, and be livin' La Vida FEAR. ;)
 
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this is no big deal, and does not suggest CGW is in the wrong for making the comment
its a minor bug
its not like they docked it, and CGW knows its not true that the game plays better on the 9800, they said the autodetection settings were bad. And for some people, that could cause issues.

magazines are always inept. CGW is actually the best pc gaming mag I've ever read.
 
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Someone wants to change my ASUS NX7800GTX TOP 256MB @ 500/1350 for a Radeon 9800XT...?

Or wait, maybe I should go with a Radeon 9600XT... They will probably perform even better!

Yep, if I do that, I can switch back to AGP as well... Never liked all the features of those NF4 mainboards...

Athlon XP someone...?
 
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Originally posted by: Wentelteefje
Never liked all the features of those NF4 mainboards...
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My [old :(]Neo2 still pwns nearly all nForce4 mobos :D
 
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Rollo has certainly got his money's worth out of this month's CGW, with at least two well responded to topics coming from it. I will give you this Rollo: even though both articles call attention to nVidia being better than ATI, you aren't being a pure fanboy. IMHO I now care less about CGW bashing the X1300 since apparently a very minor glitch is worthy of a high priority patch job according to them.

Also - no Rollo, I don't expect you to care about my opinions regarding your posts, and no I don't expect anyone else to care if I consider you a "fanboy", and no to whatever other qualifying statements are necessary to not get yelled at by you these days. I should probably apologize in advance for this paragraph as well.
 
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Originally posted by: Wentelteefje
Someone wants to change my ASUS NX7800GTX TOP 256MB @ 500/1350 for a Radeon 9800XT...?

Or wait, maybe I should go with a Radeon 9600XT... They will probably perform even better!

Yep, if I do that, I can switch back to AGP as well... Never liked all the features of those NF4 mainboards...

Athlon XP someone...?
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No what you need is a Intel cpu and Voodoo SLI.
 
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Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Wentelteefje
Someone wants to change my ASUS NX7800GTX TOP 256MB @ 500/1350 for a Radeon 9800XT...?

Or wait, maybe I should go with a Radeon 9600XT... They will probably perform even better!

Yep, if I do that, I can switch back to AGP as well... Never liked all the features of those NF4 mainboards...

Athlon XP someone...?
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No what you need is a Intel cpu and Voodoo SLI.
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:thumbsup:
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: Sunrise089
Rollo has certainly got his money's worth out of this month's CGW, with at least two well responded to topics coming from it. I will give you this Rollo: even though both articles call attention to nVidia being better than ATI, you aren't being a pure fanboy. IMHO I now care less about CGW bashing the X1300 since apparently a very minor glitch is worthy of a high priority patch job according to them.

Also - no Rollo, I don't expect you to care about my opinions regarding your posts, and no I don't expect anyone else to care if I consider you a "fanboy", and no to whatever other qualifying statements are necessary to not get yelled at by you these days. I should probably apologize in advance for this paragraph as well.
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LOL funny post.

You must have missed my recent post in the X1800XL AIW vs 6800GS SLI+ tv tuner thread today where I said there was no reason to consider the SLI.
 
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Originally posted by: Wentelteefje
Someone wants to change my ASUS NX7800GTX TOP 256MB @ 500/1350 for a Radeon 9800XT...?

Or wait, maybe I should go with a Radeon 9600XT... They will probably perform even better!

Yep, if I do that, I can switch back to AGP as well... Never liked all the features of those NF4 mainboards...

Athlon XP someone...?
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Asus 9600XT - I'll trade with you right now! I'll also swap you my mobo and P4 for yours!:laugh:
 
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9800 XT > GTX ?
yea right
i guess i should trade mine for a 9800 xt
who wants a trade? ;)
 
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