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CES 2017: Norton Selling Fear by getting into the router biz

These rinky dink wireless routers that forward packets and do no port filtering much less application should be a thing of the past imo. There are other ways to do it for free. But for an avg person something like this is a good thing.
 
Probably saw how bad ass sophos utm is and wanted a piece of the pie but sophos did it right by buying out like the godfather of utm.
 
MaxDepth said:
https://www.cnet.com/products/norton-core/preview/

So basically a router with SaaS fees. You pay a one time cost for the router but then you are asked to pay a yearly $99 fee to manage intrusion detection, IoT zombie prevention, etc.
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Hi! The subscription fee is only for your Norton Security program for your PC and mobile devices (Upto 20 devices, first year subscription being free) . The fee is only if you intend to use, otherwise no charges are involved. You may be concerned as to why you would still need Norton Security for your devices if the router is protecting. Lets say that you are taking your devices elsewhere with you and would still connect to unsecured internet to transfer some data or browse the internet, Your devices will be vulnerable without a security software at this point. This is why we included Norton Security subscription as part of your purchase.

Harini
Norton Support
 
If I were doing something important out of my house, I probably would be interested in a maintained-by-a-third-party, Security-as-a-service appliance.

But I'm not, so I'll stick with a basic router, up to date firmware, and no open incoming ports except for the VPN.
 
Rifter said:
someone is going to need to explain to me how this is any better than https://netgate.com/products/sg-1000.html

which is cheaper with no yearly renewal fee. I mean obviously you need a router too so add $100 but its still cheaper after the first year.
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So, if you want to talk granny through adding a SNORT rule that's not in the freeware definitions go ahead bruh. Whether this product is any good or not and if it's the right price point, I don't know. It definitely meets a need, whether people realize they have that need or not. Most folks aren't spending hours getting good at security. I have lots of folks ask me what I use at home. When I tell them I build my own pfsense box and use a combination of rules and ntopng for traffic shaping and utilization monitoring their eyes glaze over. Kind of like mine do when I ask my son about how his thermodynamics class is going.... Horses for courses.
 
Ertaz said:
So, if you want to talk granny through adding a SNORT rule that's not in the freeware definitions go ahead bruh. Whether this product is any good or not and if it's the right price point, I don't know. It definitely meets a need, whether people realize they have that need or not. Most folks aren't spending hours getting good at security. I have lots of folks ask me what I use at home. When I tell them I build my own pfsense box and use a combination of rules and ntopng for traffic shaping and utilization monitoring their eyes glaze over. Kind of like mine do when I ask my son about how his thermodynamics class is going.... Horses for courses.
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Even a pfsense box running default settings is going to be more secure than a circuit-level gateway type firewall found in any home router. And even if you are just running a basic home router you are still going to need to know how to work the web interface to configure it for your network, same as pfsense. Obviously pfsense can be alot more complicated but even a basic pfsense setup is more secure.
 
Rifter said:
Even a pfsense box running default settings is going to be more secure than a circuit-level gateway type firewall found in any home router. And even if you are just running a basic home router you are still going to need to know how to work the web interface to configure it for your network, same as pfsense. Obviously pfsense can be alot more complicated but even a basic pfsense setup is more secure.
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Not arguing against that. I love PFSENSE. PFsense has wizards, but they can make a slytherin feel like a muggle. Compare the web interface between it and an ASUS router... It is a 80% build it yourself solution at this point and doesn't come pre-installed on an AC5300 wireless router.
 
Well, yes, pfsense in the home is pretty solid even with defaults. However, people will not spend $200 (well the cheapest is $150?) on a network appliance. Heck when you say the word appliance they'll think you are talking about a toaster or fridge. They'll buy a used Nest before buying a firewall.

So, I get it. People want turn on and forget, one button setup - whatever the buzzword to denote simple installation and almost zero hands-on maintenance. And now with electronic debit, people are used to having their checking account emptied at the end of the month with electronic transfers - they don't feel a physical burden of losing their money. So SaaS is an easy digestible solution to present.

My concern is when Granny decides the cloud-based electronic picture frame is such a steal at $5 that she buys one for everyone. Little does she know that those things are heavily laced with malware and that the cloud, while it does actually deliver on what it says, also peers back into your home systems - because for it to work, it says it needs all these permissions...

I'm not begrudging Norton from making money and there is a need...but people need to be acquainted with basic procedures instead of just accepting as is. I guess people just want technology to work with them wanting to be hassled by it.
 
dave_the_nerd said:
If I were doing something important out of my house, I probably would be interested in a maintained-by-a-third-party, Security-as-a-service appliance.

But I'm not, so I'll stick with a basic router, up to date firmware, and no open incoming ports except for the VPN.
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Outbound ports\traffic are the problem. Trojans\malware call home and a home router wont stop it.
 
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