Certifications???

[WarmAndSCSI]

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin
I believe if you're going for Networking, you're going to need atleast a CCNA, MCSE and Novell.

Atleast thats what my class was told...

Please don't get Novell. If you end up in a job where they use Novell NetWare, replace it right away. I'm getting my MCSE and CCNA this summer, though... the CCNA test costs about $125, but I only pay $55 because I took a voucher exam through Cisco's academy program at my high school and I save 50%.

I thought the CCNA was $150?

We have 2 weeks to finsh Semester 4, and we all failed the Semester 3 final yesterday...

No, it's $125. If you're failing the EASY semester finals, there's no way you're going to pass the CCNA. You've gots to do some major studying.

Well, I got a 63. Highest grade was 74. Our class is only 45 minutes long, so we don't get to do a lot of the labs we should be doing. The teacher wanted a double period but the school wouldn't give us one...

Man, these are the kinds of discussions we need in ATOT - good, professional discussions. Anyways.

I think everybody in our class passed (down to the dumbass jock)... we have a 40 minute class (we always leave early for lunch). We hardly ever do the labs, too.

Lemme go see how I did on that semester final.... (cringe).... 89% must have been a tough one

I'll put it this way. We are up to Semester 4 and our teacher finished learnign Semester 4 on his own a few weeks ago. He's basically learning with us, this is the first time the class was offered at our school. It took us almost a school year to finish Semester 1. There are a lot of people in the class that shouldn't be there, but oh well. Its senior year and none of us really care that much...

Our teacher never taught us. He just sat back at his 21" monitor and worked (he's a teacher/sys/netadmin).

You guys have more self control than us. Our period starts out at Miniclip.com where we decide which game to play. Then we hold tournaments...

I think if you saw one of our classes, you'd disagree. I spent half my time on the 'net and the other half throwing whatever I could find at the class whores - ah, the good old days!

 

[Yax]

Okay Computer guy, here's the problem. You didn't mention if you're graduating with a CS degree or MIS degree. If you got a CS, you would probably want to go into programming. Certs help but you won't need the MCSE, CCNA, SCNA or CNE. Go for some of the programming certs instead.

If you're getting a CIS or MIS degree, then go for the certs mentioned.

Here's what I found:
1. MCSE is most popular. Easiest to find a job when you hold a MCSE.
2. SCNA (Solaris Certified Network Admin) is great, you tend to make more money than MCSEs.
3. IF you want even more money, hard work and getting the CCIE would definitely do it, but that's very hard to get.
4. CNE? Novell? Its going away very fast. Don't waste your money and time. You'll have a hard time finding a job nowadays. Newer companies tend not to go with Novell as a solution.
5. Getting the certs will make your resume look a little better, but what will definitely help you land a job is learning the popular Servers. By that I mean: SQL, Oracle, Sendmail, Exchange, Apache, IIS, etc. Just knowing your NT, 2K, XP, Unix, Linux Oses are not enough. Companies want someone who can actually solve problems with services on top of the Oses.

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin

Originally posted by: WarmAndSCSI

Originally posted by: Kevin
I believe if you're going for Networking, you're going to need atleast a CCNA, MCSE and Novell.

Atleast thats what my class was told...

Please don't get Novell. If you end up in a job where they use Novell NetWare, replace it right away. I'm getting my MCSE and CCNA this summer, though... the CCNA test costs about $125, but I only pay $55 because I took a voucher exam through Cisco's academy program at my high school and I save 50%.

I thought the CCNA was $150?

We have 2 weeks to finsh Semester 4, and we all failed the Semester 3 final yesterday...

No, it's $125. If you're failing the EASY semester finals, there's no way you're going to pass the CCNA. You've gots to do some major studying.

Well, I got a 63. Highest grade was 74. Our class is only 45 minutes long, so we don't get to do a lot of the labs we should be doing. The teacher wanted a double period but the school wouldn't give us one...

Man, these are the kinds of discussions we need in ATOT - good, professional discussions. Anyways.

I think everybody in our class passed (down to the dumbass jock)... we have a 40 minute class (we always leave early for lunch). We hardly ever do the labs, too.

Lemme go see how I did on that semester final.... (cringe).... 89% must have been a tough one

I'll put it this way. We are up to Semester 4 and our teacher finished learnign Semester 4 on his own a few weeks ago. He's basically learning with us, this is the first time the class was offered at our school. It took us almost a school year to finish Semester 1. There are a lot of people in the class that shouldn't be there, but oh well. Its senior year and none of us really care that much...

Our teacher never taught us. He just sat back at his 21" monitor and worked (he's a teacher/sys/netadmin).

You guys have more self control than us. Our period starts out at Miniclip.com where we decide which game to play. Then we hold tournaments...

I think if you saw one of our classes, you'd disagree. I spent half my time on the 'net and the other half throwing whatever I could find at the class whores - ah, the good old days!

Did you ever read the chapters?

 

[mrCide]

well no degree here.. but i do have some certs.. and it barely helped me get my foot in the door..

experience is key in the IT world..

 

[DT4K]

PLEASE STOP QUOTING EVERY POST.
Use the reply button not the quote button.

Sorry for the shout, but it is extremely irritating to look at a thread where each post consists of a full page which quotes the previous 10 posts just to give a one line reply. Not to mention you hijacked the thread and went completely off the topic of certifications and turned this into a unix vs windows thread. I do have to say though that you've been much more cordial to each other than the typical unix vs windows arguments.

jepatbentley,
What is your degree and what field do you want to go into?

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by: Shanti
PLEASE STOP QUOTING EVERY POST.
Use the reply button not the quote button.

Sorry for the shout, but it is extremely irritating to look at a thread where each post consists of a full page which quotes the previous 10 posts just to give a one line reply. Not to mention you hijacked the thread and went completely off the topic of certifications and turned this into a unix vs windows thread. I do have to say though that you've been much more cordial to each other than the typical unix vs windows arguments.

jepatbentley,
What is your degree and what field do you want to go into?

I've seen worse man...

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Shanti
PLEASE STOP QUOTING EVERY POST.
Use the reply button not the quote button.

Ok, so we could have snipped the posts a bit. But the reply button is not as good as the quote button.

Sorry for the shout, but it is extremely irritating to look at a thread where each post consists of a full page which quotes the previous 10 posts just to give a one line reply. Not to mention you hijacked the thread and went completely off the topic of certifications and turned this into a unix vs windows thread. I do have to say though that you've been much more cordial to each other than the typical unix vs windows arguments.

This wasn't the typical Windows vs Unix hijack. It was more of a "don't over look Unix certs" type of thing. We tried to keep the comments short and sweet and really didn't disrupt the flow of YACertT.