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Census worker hanged with the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Craig234
My guess as the most likely: some radical right consumer of anti-government right-wing media did this, in a frothing act 'against the federal government'.

Similar to the guy who shot up the Universalist church, after reading several books by right-wing authors like Ann Coulter.

Note for the right who read things into what's said that weren't said: this is not saying that any more than a few people who fit this description commit terrible acts like this.
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Anne should have written a book on forcing children into prostitution and how to avoid taxes and you would be praising her.
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Your idiocy is the sort I'm talking about. Who are the biggest tax evaders, again, by the way - and the people who bought themselves trillions in tax cuts from Bush corruption?
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The only people I have read about lately are political appointees of Barack Obama. Coincidence?
 
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Craig234
My guess as the most likely: some radical right consumer of anti-government right-wing media did this, in a frothing act 'against the federal government'.

Similar to the guy who shot up the Universalist church, after reading several books by right-wing authors like Ann Coulter.

Note for the right who read things into what's said that weren't said: this is not saying that any more than a few people who fit this description commit terrible acts like this.
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Anne should have written a book on forcing children into prostitution and how to avoid taxes and you would be praising her.
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Your idiocy is the sort I'm talking about. Who are the biggest tax evaders, again, by the way - and the people who bought themselves trillions in tax cuts from Bush corruption?
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The only people I have read about lately are political appointees of Barack Obama. Coincidence?
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No, ignorance. Try reading Davic Cay Johnston for a change and get informed.
 
Wow, thread already derailed with right vs. left hackery.

RIP Mr. Sparkman, hopefully the nutbag(s) who did this to you will be caught and brought to justice.

This is taking the logical assumption that one doesn't spray-paint themselves commonly with a thinly-veiled condemnatory description if it were in fact a suicide.
 
Seriously, WTF!

Poor guy,
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RIP
 
This is obviously not a suicide...never heard of someone spray painting and hanging themselves. How inept were the initial police on scene not to rule that out?
 
Not going to be a suicide. They typically wish to be found during/after attempt depending on whether its real or an attention grab. You don't go to a remote corner of national park to off yourself. Oh, or spraypaint either 🙂
 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Balt
My money is on hardcore tax protesters being responsible.
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why go after a census peon? why not at least an IRS peon?
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Availability, I guess. They may also have suspected he was an investigator just using the census as a cover.

All speculation, of course, hopefully they will find out for sure.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/949349.html

I have also quotes that the word FED wasnt even written on him. Talk about going off the deep end for people on the left. You have Craig thinking it was some right winged loon and Jokus claiming it was a Glenn Beck murder.

The Media in this country appear to be close to failing to report the facts again.
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Let them have their 2 years of control before they get completely overthrown in the senate, and then next presidential election, when they get rolled (provided a decent/good opposition) they will go back to their mud flinging that they bitched at the republicans for.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/949349.html

I have also quotes that the word FED wasnt even written on him. Talk about going off the deep end for people on the left. You have Craig thinking it was some right winged loon and Jokus claiming it was a Glenn Beck murder.

The Media in this country appear to be close to failing to report the facts again.
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Like I said in my post in this same thread a few days ago, this has nothing to do with left or right and everything to do with Yellow Journalism. Exactly like the anti-choice protester that was killed in Michigan, except in that case it was meant to piss off the right and have the left attempting to justify it, the opposite in this story.

And again, like I said in my earlier post it, once actual facts start coming out there will be a few minutes of "OMG the Liberal media" and the fact that the whole thing was bad journalism trying to sensationalize and sell papers will be forgotten and swept under table.

Yellow Journalism my friends. That is the name of the game. Until we hold them to higher standards and don't just fall into the old partisan name game we will continue to have shitty news and even worse... people who know they can make a huge name for themselves by doing horrible things to other people.


EDIT: WTF, I just finished reading the article you posted and congrats on making your own facts. Nothing in that article supports anything you just posted. They never say anything about Fed not being written on his chest and the only major information that was in there that wasn't already talked about was the emphasis on illegal drug operations in that specific county, especially mj and meth. Seriously way to be a slimey hack, posting a link just to make your own partisan excusist ways look legit. You are as bad as the journalists. I might also add the particle article you posted is horrid. Its title is horribly misleading as all the quotes from police in said article where not "that it might not be homicide" but that they "have not determined if it was a homicide". The first implies doubt the latter implies investigation. More scumbag journalism.

http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/951513.html - Same website, same day, completely different info, except this from the person WHO FOUND THE BODY. Naked, bound with duct tape on hands and feet, gagged, and the word Fed written in permanent marker.

BIG CREEK, Ky. -- A part-time census worker found hanging in a rural Kentucky cemetery was naked, gagged and had his hands and feet bound with duct tape, said an Ohio man who discovered the body two weeks ago.

The word "fed" was written in felt-tip pen on 51-year-old Bill Sparkman's chest, but authorities have released very few other details in the case, such as whether they think it was an accident, suicide or homicide.

Jerry Weaver of Fairfield, Ohio, told The Associated Press on Friday that he was certain from the gruesome scene that someone killed Sparkman.

"He was murdered," Weaver said. "There's no doubt."

Weaver said he was in the rural Kentucky county for a family reunion and was visiting some family graves at the cemetery on Sept. 12 along with his wife and daughter when they saw the body.

"The only thing he had on was a pair of socks," Weaver said. "And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something."

Two people briefed on the investigation said various details of Weaver's account matched the details of the crime scene, though both people said they were not informed who found the body. The two spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

"And they even had duct tape around his neck," Weaver said. "And they had like his identification tag on his neck. They had it duct-taped to the side of his neck, on the right side, almost on his right shoulder."

Authorities have refused to say if Sparkman was at work going to door-to-door for census surveys before he died.

Both of the people briefed on the investigation confirmed Sparkman's Census Bureau ID was found taped to his head and shoulder area. Weaver said he couldn't tell if the tag was a Census ID because he didn't get close enough to read it. He could see writing on Sparkman's chest, and could read that it said "fed."

Authorities said Thursday that a preliminary cause of death was asphyxiation, pending a full medical examination. Even the details behind that were murky. According to a Kentucky State Police statement, the body was hanging from a tree with a rope around the neck, yet it was in contact with the ground.

Weaver, who works for a family topsoil business in Fairfield, said the body was about 50 yards from a 2003 Chevrolet S-10 pickup truck. He said Sparkman's clothes were in the bed of the truck.

"His tailgate was down," Weaver said. "I thought he could have been killed somewhere else and brought there and hanged up for display, or they actually could have killed him right there. It was a bad, bad scene.

"It took me three or four good nights to sleep. My 20-year-old daughter ended up sleeping in the floor in our bedroom." he said.

Clay County Sheriff Kevin Johnson declined to comment on the investigation because the department is only playing a supporting role but said patrols have increased in the Daniel Boone National Forest since the body was found.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in the rural county pending the investigation.

State Trooper Don Trosper said it was clear this wasn't a natural death but said all other possibilities were being considered.

"This case has many facets," he said. "To investigate cases, you have to rule out different scenarios. We are not able to rule out many scenarios at this time, and that's what makes this a difficult case."

Although anti-government sentiment was one possibility in the death, some in law enforcement also cited the prevalence of drug activity in the area - including meth labs and marijuana fields - although they had no reason to believe there was a link to Sparkman's death.

"Now they're taking their meth lab operations into the rural, secluded areas," the sheriff said. "We've had complaints in the area, but not that particular location."
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Genx87
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/949349.html

I have also quotes that the word FED wasnt even written on him. Talk about going off the deep end for people on the left. You have Craig thinking it was some right winged loon and Jokus claiming it was a Glenn Beck murder.

The Media in this country appear to be close to failing to report the facts again.
Click to expand...

Like I said in my post in this same thread a few days ago, this has nothing to do with left or right and everything to do with Yellow Journalism. Exactly like the anti-choice protester that was killed in Michigan, except in that case it was meant to piss off the right and have the left attempting to justify it, the opposite in this story.

And again, like I said in my earlier post it, once actual facts start coming out there will be a few minutes of "OMG the Liberal media" and the fact that the whole thing was bad journalism trying to sensationalize and sell papers will be forgotten and swept under table.

Yellow Journalism my friends. That is the name of the game. Until we hold them to higher standards and don't just fall into the old partisan name game we will continue to have shitty news and even worse... people who know they can make a huge name for themselves by doing horrible things to other people.


EDIT: WTF, I just finished reading the article you posted and congrats on making your own facts. Nothing in that article supports anything you just posted. They never say anything about Fed not being written on his chest and the only major information that was in there that wasn't already talked about was the emphasis on illegal drug operations in that specific county, especially mj and meth. Seriously way to be a slimey hack, posting a link just to make your own partisan excusist ways look legit. You are as bad as the journalists. I might also add the particle article you posted is horrid. Its title is horribly misleading as all the quotes from police in said article where not "that it might not be homicide" but that they "have not determined if it was a homicide". The first implies doubt the latter implies investigation. More scumbag journalism.
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I'd also point out: Even if "Fed" wasn't really written on the victim, if it was reported to be there I think everyone should be alarmed. Certainly it wouldn't be True in that case, but no one other than Investigators would know the Truth. We all, regardless of Side, rely on the Media/Press to inform us of such details. Which is why Media/Press getting caught making shit up is/should be a big scandal. Which is why Fox News is a completely unreliable Source and no one should watch it. Not to say that Fox is alone in that, but their track record is by far the worst, yet people seem to be drawn to them in greater numbers all the time. It won't end well.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Genx87
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/949349.html

I have also quotes that the word FED wasnt even written on him. Talk about going off the deep end for people on the left. You have Craig thinking it was some right winged loon and Jokus claiming it was a Glenn Beck murder.

The Media in this country appear to be close to failing to report the facts again.
Click to expand...

Like I said in my post in this same thread a few days ago, this has nothing to do with left or right and everything to do with Yellow Journalism. Exactly like the anti-choice protester that was killed in Michigan, except in that case it was meant to piss off the right and have the left attempting to justify it, the opposite in this story.

And again, like I said in my earlier post it, once actual facts start coming out there will be a few minutes of "OMG the Liberal media" and the fact that the whole thing was bad journalism trying to sensationalize and sell papers will be forgotten and swept under table.

Yellow Journalism my friends. That is the name of the game. Until we hold them to higher standards and don't just fall into the old partisan name game we will continue to have shitty news and even worse... people who know they can make a huge name for themselves by doing horrible things to other people.


EDIT: WTF, I just finished reading the article you posted and congrats on making your own facts. Nothing in that article supports anything you just posted. They never say anything about Fed not being written on his chest and the only major information that was in there that wasn't already talked about was the emphasis on illegal drug operations in that specific county, especially mj and meth. Seriously way to be a slimey hack, posting a link just to make your own partisan excusist ways look legit. You are as bad as the journalists. I might also add the particle article you posted is horrid. Its title is horribly misleading as all the quotes from police in said article where not "that it might not be homicide" but that they "have not determined if it was a homicide". The first implies doubt the latter implies investigation. More scumbag journalism.
Click to expand...

I'd also point out: Even if "Fed" wasn't really written on the victim, if it was reported to be there I think everyone should be alarmed. Certainly it wouldn't be True in that case, but no one other than Investigators would know the Truth. We all, regardless of Side, rely on the Media/Press to inform us of such details. Which is why Media/Press getting caught making shit up is/should be a big scandal. Which is why Fox News is a completely unreliable Source and no one should watch it. Not to say that Fox is alone in that, but their track record is by far the worst, yet people seem to be drawn to them in greater numbers all the time. It won't end well.
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You reply'ed before my edit where I posted another article from the interview of the man who found the body. The guy was gagged, duct tape bonded his hands feet eyes and neck, he was naked, a rope was around his neck to a tree, he was on the ground, the word fed WAS written on his body, and his Census Id was attached to him far out in the middle of nowhere. That doesn't sound suicide at all.

BIG CREEK, Ky. -- A part-time census worker found hanging in a rural Kentucky cemetery was naked, gagged and had his hands and feet bound with duct tape, said an Ohio man who discovered the body two weeks ago.

The word "fed" was written in felt-tip pen on 51-year-old Bill Sparkman's chest, but authorities have released very few other details in the case, such as whether they think it was an accident, suicide or homicide.

Jerry Weaver of Fairfield, Ohio, told The Associated Press on Friday that he was certain from the gruesome scene that someone killed Sparkman.

"He was murdered," Weaver said. "There's no doubt."

Weaver said he was in the rural Kentucky county for a family reunion and was visiting some family graves at the cemetery on Sept. 12 along with his wife and daughter when they saw the body.

"The only thing he had on was a pair of socks," Weaver said. "And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something."

Two people briefed on the investigation said various details of Weaver's account matched the details of the crime scene, though both people said they were not informed who found the body. The two spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

"And they even had duct tape around his neck," Weaver said. "And they had like his identification tag on his neck. They had it duct-taped to the side of his neck, on the right side, almost on his right shoulder."

Authorities have refused to say if Sparkman was at work going to door-to-door for census surveys before he died.

Both of the people briefed on the investigation confirmed Sparkman's Census Bureau ID was found taped to his head and shoulder area. Weaver said he couldn't tell if the tag was a Census ID because he didn't get close enough to read it. He could see writing on Sparkman's chest, and could read that it said "fed."

Authorities said Thursday that a preliminary cause of death was asphyxiation, pending a full medical examination. Even the details behind that were murky. According to a Kentucky State Police statement, the body was hanging from a tree with a rope around the neck, yet it was in contact with the ground.

Weaver, who works for a family topsoil business in Fairfield, said the body was about 50 yards from a 2003 Chevrolet S-10 pickup truck. He said Sparkman's clothes were in the bed of the truck.

"His tailgate was down," Weaver said. "I thought he could have been killed somewhere else and brought there and hanged up for display, or they actually could have killed him right there. It was a bad, bad scene.

"It took me three or four good nights to sleep. My 20-year-old daughter ended up sleeping in the floor in our bedroom." he said.

Clay County Sheriff Kevin Johnson declined to comment on the investigation because the department is only playing a supporting role but said patrols have increased in the Daniel Boone National Forest since the body was found.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in the rural county pending the investigation.

State Trooper Don Trosper said it was clear this wasn't a natural death but said all other possibilities were being considered.

"This case has many facets," he said. "To investigate cases, you have to rule out different scenarios. We are not able to rule out many scenarios at this time, and that's what makes this a difficult case."

Although anti-government sentiment was one possibility in the death, some in law enforcement also cited the prevalence of drug activity in the area - including meth labs and marijuana fields - although they had no reason to believe there was a link to Sparkman's death.

"Now they're taking their meth lab operations into the rural, secluded areas," the sheriff said. "We've had complaints in the area, but not that particular location."
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Ya, I saw it. Just thought I'd point out that initial "Outrage" was justified True or not, due to the Relationship of the Press and the Public.
 
I think it points to someone being interrupted in the process of committing of a crime and possibly thought the person they killed was either spying for the government or was an undercover agent. There was a case back in the 80's where a woman was killed because she walked into a restroom during a coke deal and was found later with the word pig written on her. She was a security guard at the store across the street whose bathroom was broken, so she went across the street to the diner on the corner, a known drug hangout.


 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I think it points to someone being interrupted in the process of committing of a crime and possibly thought the person they killed was either spying for the government or was an undercover agent. There was a case back in the 80's where a woman was killed because she walked into a restroom during a coke deal and was found later with the word pig written on her. She was a security guard at the store across the street whose bathroom was broken, so she went across the street to the diner on the corner, a known drug hangout.
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That could be.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/949349.html

I have also quotes that the word FED wasnt even written on him. Talk about going off the deep end for people on the left. You have Craig thinking it was some right winged loon and Jokus claiming it was a Glenn Beck murder.

The Media in this country appear to be close to failing to report the facts again.
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As has been said, read your own articles, also:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin...=3&partner=rss&emc=rss
 
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