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Celeron vs P4

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ldietz

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Would the average home pc user notice much of a performance difference between a Celeron 2.8 and an Intel P4 2.2 @ 533 fbs? Does the larger L2 cache make that much difference for running excel or surfing the net? The prices are very comparable.
 
Well, you would definately notice teh difference when loading up windows or just running appliciations like firefox and such. The acrhitechure is alot better in teh p4 compare to a celeron. Also if you plan to oc, i would deffinately go for the p4. Also you might consider getting a amd mobile xp cpu since they are extremely cheap like 60 to 80 and you can oc the hell out of that cpu.
 
the architecture is exactly the same, but a crippled L2 Cache ( i am talking about the northwood celerys, others may differ !)

basically equates to poor gaming performance, but will be almost if not exactly the same for web browsing, etc/
 
Remember, even if all you do is surf and listen to mp3's you will still have to listen to every nerd who likes to pretend he knows computers tell you how much celerons suck and how you are an inbred retard for buying one. Buying an AMD XP is worth it just to shut them up.
 
Originally posted by: Lithan
Remember, even if all you do is surf and listen to mp3's you will still have to listen to every nerd who likes to pretend he knows computers tell you how much celerons suck and how you are an inbred retard for buying one. Buying an AMD XP is worth it just to shut them up.
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Well, immediately the very first time I saw your avatar and read your nickname, - "What a nice young man", I thought. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Lithan
Remember, even if all you do is surf and listen to mp3's you will still have to listen to every nerd who likes to pretend he knows computers tell you how much celerons suck and how you are an inbred retard for buying one. Buying an AMD XP is worth it just to shut them up.
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Well whats the point in buying something that is obviously inferior? I mean honestly, even if you are an Intel fanboi through and through, you can't say an Athlon XP is not a better purchase... much more power for probably exact same price.
 
agreed. imo celerons are for companies like dell so that they can slap a sticker "Intel Inside" on their cases
 
Well, the Celeron D is far superior to the earlier P4 based Celerons.

I would think that the best way to shut up a Celeron basher would be to buy one and show him that you really can't tell the difference in the real world in most everyday applications.

Just a reminder that the Celeron D is a Prescott core and it does have SSE3.
 
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Well, the Celeron D is far superior to the earlier P4 based Celerons.

I would think that the best way to shut up a Celeron basher would be to buy one and show him that you really can't tell the difference in the real world in most everyday applications.

Just a reminder that the Celeron D is a Prescott core and it does have SSE3.
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Also, the "Deleron" has 256k cache, in case anyone cares. I think it has been shown that at the exact same MHz and FSB, the Deleron will on average nominally outperform the Celeron, unlike the P4 Northwood/Prescott testing. Plus, my own Deleron 320 (2.4GHz) feels pretty speedy to me running at 3.6GHz.

LTC8K6 is right in saying that many people probably wouldn't feel too much difference by the "seat of their pants" usage as long as all other components were the same between the P4 2.26 and Celeron 2.8. With the cheap Dell systems, you CAN feel a performance difference, but that's because for the longest time they were selling Celerons with 128MB RAM and people were buying them because they were cheap. Upgrading RAM sure helps performance in these cases.
 
The Northwood P4 Mobile Celerons had 256 K cache and I can't tell difference between my 2.4 Ghz Notebook and my friends 2.66 Ghz P4. So I doubt if this upgrade will be noticeable. Wait for something better.
 
No, the Celeron is fine for the e-mailer, internet surfer, and microsoft word type. Of course, if you ever want to have fun with your computer, well, that's another story 😉
 
Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
No, the Celeron is fine for the e-mailer, internet surfer, and microsoft word type. Of course, if you ever want to have fun with your computer, well, that's another story 😉
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Agreed, but the type of person wanting/considering a Celeron probably doesn't have a GPU fast enough to keep up with the CPU anyway.
 
LOL. The fastest integrated graphic solutions in the world is still slower than hell itself lol.

I read somewhere about an integrated solution for a A64??? Why? TORTURE
 
Originally posted by: cbehnken
LOL. The fastest integrated graphic solutions in the world is still slower than hell itself lol.
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Is the latest intel integrated "extreme" graphics still slower than, say, a 3dfx Voodoo3 or Matrox G200?

 
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Lithan
Remember, even if all you do is surf and listen to mp3's you will still have to listen to every nerd who likes to pretend he knows computers tell you how much celerons suck and how you are an inbred retard for buying one. Buying an AMD XP is worth it just to shut them up.
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Well whats the point in buying something that is obviously inferior? I mean honestly, even if you are an Intel fanboi through and through, you can't say an Athlon XP is not a better purchase... much more power for probably exact same price.
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I agree if you are building your own rig. But buying OEM, Celeron tends to be a lot cheaper. And you don't always have the time to spend building and setting up the software on a homemade rig for someone to surf on.


Vee
Well, immediately the very first time I saw your avatar and read your nickname, - "What a nice young man", I thought.
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I cover my body with a fine coating of paint thinner every five minutes to ensure that people are disarmed around me.
 
Originally posted by: cbehnkenI read somewhere about an integrated solution for a A64??? Why? TORTURE
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SiS 760 and VIA K8M800 chipsets have integrated graphics plus AGP 8X slot.
Originally posted by: jrichrdsIs the latest intel integrated "extreme" graphics still slower than, say, a 3dfx Voodoo3 or Matrox G200?
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Nope. The Intel Extreme Graphics 2 isn't really a speed demon, but it'll support most of the eye candy at lower (but playable) frame rates and lower resolutions. I do think modern integrated graphics are actually better than older discreet 3D cards.
 
I feel sorry for the average joe who walks into his local PC shop, see's a 2.8 Ghz celeron next to an AMD 2500+, decides with the "Intel Inside" with its lovely " Intel Extreme Graphics " and goes home to play Doom III........

FADE TO BLACK......................( I have lost the will to live....)
 
I feel sorry for anyone who buys a comp out of a shop to play doom 3 with. I don't look close... but I don't recall seeing any high end graphics cards in any oems I see at stores. I think nowadays the stores are mostly carrying cheap trash. If you want a good gaming oem rig, your probably have to order it direct from dell/hp/whatever.
 
The "high end" off-the-shelf systems have really fast CPUs with 512MB RAM, large hard drives, DVD burners, large LCD screens, color matched keyboard/mouse/monitor/case and integrated video. An exception are some of the Sony VAIOs which happen to be some of the most expensive on the market and come with mid-line ATI AIW cards.
 
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