Celeron vs. Celeron D

[catpants]

I've been considering replacing my Celeron 2.4 to give my machine a bit of a power boost. Is there enough of a difference between the Celeron and the Celeron D to warrant the $60 or so I'd spend on the upgrade? Or should I shell out the $200+ for a P4?

 

[Away]

You will notice a performance jump by moving to a Celeron D. It has a higher FSB and L2 Cache. But you might want to consider a P4 as well. You can find some decent ones around $150 now at Newegg.

 

[carlosd]

I guess you are using socket 478 socket, which is a dead end plataform. Celeron sucks, celeron D sucks less. For a P4 presshots suck more than everything else, for 200+ you could get a decent A64 combo. If you don't want to spend much money celeron D will be the best option. But never consider P4 as an option it is a steal.

 

[Aenslead]

You could also look for a GOOD deal on a P4 @ 2.8Ghz, 800Mhz FSB, 1Mb cache, Hyper Threading, and all.

 

[catpants]

If I can find a good A64+mobo for around the price of a P4, I'd actually prefer to go with that. The only reason I have what I have now is because a friend of mine got a sweet hookup on some low-end Dells (Dimension 2400s for around $100 a pop). I've been upgrading it bit by bit, the only Dell parts left are the mobo+cpu and a couple of the drives. Thanks for the tip.

Addendum: What is A64 Revision E? Is it worth the extra priceage?

 

[Aenslead]

Its the revision embeded with SSE3 instructions. It is worth the difference if you use apps that are optimized for such instructions.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: Aenslead
Its the revision embeded with SSE3 instructions. It is worth the difference if you use apps that are optimized for such instructions.

AKA: Venice. Its the successor to the Winchester-based A64's. Supposedly (I can't confirm, cuz I don't have one) they have better OCing potential as well. If you can find one that's the same price, or just a bit more, than its Winchester-based brother, then I'd definitely go for it.

 

[Appledrop]

if getting new mobo i think you might need a new psu, as dell psu and mobo are made to only fit dell parts ?? Maybe taht was only in the past though, but it is worth finding out beforehand..

Also getting a new cpu for your current board might pose a problem, if your current board is only made for 400FSB (i would find out chipset first using cpuz for example, google it, and find out its max fsb, and get a cpu to match that)

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

This thread is hilarious.
Reply 1: Celeron D is better (but a PIV is even better)
Reply 2: Socket 478 is deadend. Celeron sucks. Celeron D sucks less. Presshots suck the worst get AMD64 because PIV is a steal (bad)
Reply 3: Get a good PIV with hyperthreading 2.8 etc.
Reply 4: Original poster (I would get an AMD64 but ...)
Reply 5: Post about SSE3 assuming it is a Venice plug
Reply 6: I heard from someone, but can't confirm the Venice overclocks better
Reply 7: Just get a new computer (because a new mobo requires a new psu which requires new dimms which requires at least an FX-55

I would get a Celeron D or a Pentium 4 maxed out on that motherboard and overclock some and call it a day myself.
This post was for self-amusement only at the quick switch to overclocking a AMD64 on a question about Celeron or Celeron D in seven posts

 

[kmmatney]

What is the maximum FSB that your motherboard can take? It may not support the 800 MHz, so you should make sure.

I think you'll have to spend more than $60 to get a decent Celeron D. A 2.8 GHz CeleronD is $93 at NewEgg. Does your motherboard have any overclocking ability? If not, then that really hampers the Celeron D. At stock speed, it is still slower than a cheap AMD Duron in most tests.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: catpants
If I can find a good A64+mobo for around the price of a P4, I'd actually prefer to go with that. The only reason I have what I have now is because a friend of mine got a sweet hookup on some low-end Dells (Dimension 2400s for around $100 a pop). I've been upgrading it bit by bit, the only Dell parts left are the mobo+cpu and a couple of the drives. Thanks for the tip.

Don't think the mobo in the 2400 can support that much... may want to research what it can actually support. "What is the maximum FSB that your motherboard can take? It may not support the 800 MHz, so you should make sure." Like kmmatney said.

For mobo/CPU, the San Diego Fry's Electronics has a $139 deal for an A64 2800+ and a disposable motherboard.