Celeron II at 950? Is it worth it?

[jehh]

I have a P3 750 CPU in my system now and I've been thinking of changing to a Celeron 633 oc to 950. Would this be worth doing if my main use for this machine is games?

If so, how many 633 Celeron IIs will do 950? I've got a BX board so a Celeron is my only real option. I'm not inclined to change boards right now.

Will the Celeron 667 do 1GHz?

Thanks,

Jason

 

[MadRat]

I don't see much difference between a P!!!EB-800 and a c566@850. They both run games so alike it isn't worth the difference in price. In office applications there is a slight hesitation during queries most likely due to the 100fsb, but it still runs very fast. I'd suspect a c633@950 would be just fine, too.

 

[jehh]

Yea, that is rather what I figured...

Then again, if I can sell my 750 for $100 more than the cost of a Celeron 633... Money is money and if it at least runs as fast...

Jason

 

[TravisBickle]

celeron @950 benchmarks like a pIII800@100 I believe (Tom's or someone has that).
you will be very lucky to get that much for your PIII now! price cuts.

 

[jehh]

Fair enough, so it would run at about the same speed as my P3 750.

The question then is, how likly am I to get a 633 that runs at 950?

Jason

 

[Killrose]

Stick with the PIII, your going to be disapointed when you go thru all the trouble of trying to get a 600MHz@950, then see little difference when you bench them. Look at past articles of CPU reveiws @Anands. Though the 600@950 will beat the PIII 750 in bussiness apps, they'll be very close in gamming apps. Why don't you try overclocking the PIII?

 

[KR]

Jason,

Have you considered upping the FSB of your PIII and simply going to 840MHZ (112FSB X 7.5) or 877 (117FSB X 7.5) or so with your current CPU - most PIII's will handle a reasonable amount of FSB increase. If your motherboard supports overclocking above 100MHZ you can probably get some increase without needing to change your memory or peripherals. The change from your PIII750 to a c950 may show some increase in benchmarks but you probably won't see much overall difference in real-life performance from what you have now.

 

[MadRat]

If you do RC5 there is a huge performance jump at 950mHz.

 

[jehh]

Something in my system doesn't like FSB speeds above 105 MHz. I've got a 440BX board.

I'm not really looking for something faster, more I was trying to get back the price diffrence between the CPUs. I can sell the P3 750 for about $160, I can buy the Celeron for about $60, thus I'll get $100 back.

That is why I asked how many of the Celerons would do 950. I could also try a 600 boosted to 900 or a 566 boosted to 850, but of course for the small amount of money that the 633 costs over the 566, why not get the extra speed.

Thanks,

Jason

 

[AtaStrumf]

Stick to Your PII 750. Celeron IIs are CRAP!!
I had a celeron II 633 not overclocked and the performance on ABIT SA6R (i815), 192 MB PC 100 RAM vas shi*ty. 3300 3D Mark 99 (GeForce2MX) Default test. Now With Duron 800 an ABIT KT7A i Get 6300. You Figure it out. The Only difference in my PC was the MOBO And CPU. I would never get the celeron II if I were you. You don't even know if you could OC it. No sir, just stick with your PIII.

 

[jehh]

The biggest problem with your Celeron is the 66MHz FSB. At 100 MHz FSB they start to compete with the Duron. They are still not as fast on most tasks, but they are MUCH closer. The Duron has a 200 MHz FSB which also helps.

Sooner or later, I may just replace my board and get an Athlon, but I don't need the speed boost. What I wanted to do was keep the same speed and get $100 back. At 900MHz, a Celeron II is about as fast on most tasks as my P3 750.

Jason

 

[blackhawk]

A 633 overclock to 100+ is going to be rare. Best to buy pretested but then you'll only save 30 bucks I'd guess and gains would be questionable. A lot of 600's at 900 to 1035 being sold pretested but haven't seen any 633's from a store.

I got mine privately but am selling as I think my 533@896 performs about the same with the increased fsb.

 

[jehh]

Yea, that is what I've been told, getting a 633 to 950 is hard without the best cooling.

I just ordered a PIII 900 from Evertek, that is a custom CPU that cannot be had on the open market, it is fast, I know it will work, and it will give me another 6 months with my current setup. It cost me $235, but I'll get $170 or so for my current CPU and I don't have to risk overclocking.

Jason

 

[Perryg114]

I just bought a Celeron 667 and it will only overclock to 752Mhz or a 75 Mhz FSB. Above that it won't boot. Maybe it the P3V4X MB and the Abit Slotkit. I like the idea of overclocking your P-III I made the mistake of getting a P-III 800 at 133 FSB. No room to OC there. By the way the Celeron at 752 is 12% slower than the P-III 800 at 133 FSB, at least in Sandra CPU benchmarks.

Perry

 

[White Widow]

Although everyone around here treats the Celeron-II like a red-headed step child, I have been very happy with mine. I purchased a Celeron-II 600MHz cC0 that runs at 900MHz defualt voltage. I paid like $60 for this chip, and it performs very well. Granted, when the FSB is at 66Mhz this chip performs terribly, but when you get to 100fsb, the framerates really increase dramatically. Add to that a 133MHz memory bus and things don't look so bad. With a P3-800 running in the $170 range, a $60 Celeron @ 900MHz/100fsb still seems like a really good deal to me. Of ocurse, if you're starting fresh, the Duron is the low-end way to go. but as an upgrade choice, it's easy to make the case for the Celeron-II.

-Aaron

 

[MadRat]

I second that notion.

 

[Rebels7]

I have a celeron 633 that runs fine at 1006, 106 FSB. It will not perform as well as my PIII 550E overclocked to 825, 150 FSB. But for the price, it is worth considering.