Celeron 900: Any hope for 133fsb with Retail HSF?

[Athlon4all]

I just picked up a Celery 900 Retail from Newegg (I wish I could've gotten the 1A, but my mobo's no Tualy🙁). And, I had planned on getting a 800 but then, it disappeared from Newegg so anyway. My mobo is PC Chips, and has next to no ocing options. There mite be vcore, and there's only 66/100/133fsb setting so, the only oppertunity that I have is to move from 100 to 133fsb. Now, 133fsb would mean an overclock to just shy of 1.2GHz. Is this totally never gonna happen with Intel's Retail HSF? Overclockers does have quite a few at 1.2 and above, and the average speed is just under 1.2GHz. So, my question is does anyone on the forums have a Celery 900 and been able to hit 133fsb? Thanks!

 

[oldfart]

Thats pushing it but hey, you may get lucky and get a really good chip. The factory HS/Fan is pretty decent. Use some ASII/III instead of the pad. If you need lots of Vcore, then you will probobly need a bigger HS/Fan. Give it a shot.

 

[hobbit]

I have a boxed Celery 900 Q201A564/SL633 running at 9x150@1.85 Volts on a BXMaster. I removed the fan from the retail HSF and screwed a Delta 5000 rpm on it. It's absolutely stable. VGA is G400 which has no prob with 100 MHz AGP bus. I might also add that this stepping is not even listed on Intel site. It has a heat spreader on it too and look exactly like a Celatin but with only 128K cache 🙁

 

[Athlon4all]

Damn! I should've thought to pick up a tube of AS2:|. Oh well. Hot dog hobbit! That sounds amazing! oldfart, dumb question. I don't have any thermal paste on me right now, but should I remove the pad anyway for future ASII application? Thanks guys!

 

[oldfart]

You dont want to put it together naked. If the pad is all you have, use it. Does the CPU have an IHS, or just a bare core?

 

[Athlon4all]

I haven't received it yet. I ordered it this AM so, but I take it that if there is a IHS then a bare HSF is fine, but if there is no IHS then use the thermal pad? Thanks!

 

[oldfart]

Bare HS/Fan is NEVER OK. You always have to have some sort of TIM in between!! AS2/3 is preferable, but if you dont have it, use the thermal pad it comes with.

 

[MadRat]

<<Celeron 900: Any hope for 133fsb with Retail HSF?>>

Nope. Mine does a whopping 3-second post then freezes from the heat.

 

[bizmark]

My OEM Celeron 850 from Newegg went fine with a PC Chips jumpered "force 133FSB" to give me a nice 1138 o/c. Of course I'm running that with PC133 RAM. I didn't adjust the Vcore (again, no adjustment available w/ the mobo) but the mobo appears to regulate it as needed, and it's typically about 1.75V (stock=1.70V). I had bought the cheapest CoolerMaster HSF from NewEgg and temps are absolutely fine and I can run Prime95, Serious Sam, 3DMark200X, and Sandra Burn-In indefinitely without problems.

BTW is your mobo the M790MR dual-370 from CompGeeks? (Same one I have) If so, this article reviews the ECS DV6AA and it appears to be the exact same motherboard. They talk about a BIOS upgrade (actually a downgrade 😛)to get you o/c'ing options. I haven't done it yet, as I'm fine with 133FSB and I'm kind of scared to upgrade the BIOS without knowing what I'm doing, but if you do it let me know how it turns out.

Even if your motherboard isn't that particular one, finding a BIOS upgrade might be possible to get you some better o/c'ing options.

Also even if you don't do that, from my BIOS at least it's possible to run the RAM at 133MHz while the official CPU FSB is still 100MHz. I got a little bit of extra performance that way when I first had the CPU running at normal clocking.

 

[CapsLock]

If you have to wait for AS 2/3, then go to your local radio-shack and get some thermal paste there in the meantime. allways use some
thermal pad / thermal grease, it makes a difference! put a small amount on chip and use a credit card to spread it evenly over the chip!
et voil&agrave;!

cAPSlOCK

 

[Athlon4all]

Well my Celery arrived from Newegg yestereday. I am just using the stock HSF. First off, I looks like a Tualatin. It's got the IHS, 2nd, on the box it says "Celeron Processor FC-PGA2 900MHz", and also it says on the box "This processor has new electrical requirements that must be supported by your motherboard blah blah blah". but in any case it can't be a Tualatin because the voltage is 1.75. Anyway, I installed 2000 Pro, and then I increased the fsb to 133 and it POSTed right away (1.75v, this mobo has no vcore🙁)(no Thermal paste), and I was able to get into Windows. I'll have to do more testing to see if it's really stable, but so far so good. Thanks guys

<< BTW is your mobo the M790MR dual-370 from CompGeeks? >>

Nah. Mines a SIS 630S board I pickup on *bay for $40. Has Integrated Sound, Video, and Modem. Not too shabby of a deal for $40 shipped! Thanks again everyone.