Celeron 847 (Sandy Bridge) is barely faster than Pentium su4100 (Intel's 1st mobile)?

[TerryMathews]

How long has it been since a Chevy anything had a carburetor?

I like how this is your issue with my analogy.

 

[86waterpumper]

that gigabyte board looks cool. Nice to see some faster mITX than the 847 but lack of usb 3.0 this far along kills it for me. There is not even a expansion slot except for a oldschool pci so you can't even put a add on usb 3.0 card.

 

[sm625]

that gigabyte board looks cool. Nice to see some faster mITX than the 847 but lack of usb 3.0 this far along kills it for me. There is not even a expansion slot except for a oldschool pci so you can't even put a add on usb 3.0 card.

The NM70 is really cheap, I'm sure that's a big part of how they are able to get these combos under $100. Anything with a USB 3.0 port is going to drive the cost up rather significantly.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

that gigabyte board looks cool. Nice to see some faster mITX than the 847 but lack of usb 3.0 this far along kills it for me. There is not even a expansion slot except for a oldschool pci so you can't even put a add on usb 3.0 card.

Asus does make a Celeron 847 board with USB3 and as a bonus it has a full-length PCIe x16:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/C8HM70IHDMI/

 

[SPBHM]

HM70 is their lowest end mobile chipset (sandy/ivy bridge Pentium/Celeron only it works with i3/i5 but it auto shuts down after 30 min or so, there is some strange lock), but it does support USB 3.0, that's what the Asus MB is using, the others are using the "NM70"

 

[VirtualLarry]

The NM70 is really cheap, I'm sure that's a big part of how they are able to get these combos under $100. Anything with a USB 3.0 port is going to drive the cost up rather significantly.

"significantly"? You mean, like $5? Because that's the difference between the ASRock E-350 board with and and without USB 3.0.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

"significantly"? You mean, like $5? Because that's the difference between the ASRock E-350 board with and and without USB 3.0.

That's not using the same chipset, is it?

 

[86waterpumper]

Right, I knew you could get lots of other mITX with usb 3.0 including the 847. 847 is slower though, so whatever other benefits it has are messed up by the slower cpu. I built a e-350 system back last year that has 3.0 usb. It's going on a year old now. This is my whole point. If you could get this a year ago on this form factor it is way past lame at this stage not to have it. Back then you could say well it hasn't caught on enough to be mainstream yet. As for price, and if corners had to be cut I would say well more than 50 percent of users would rather see usb 3.0 than the dual nic setup.

 

[VirtualLarry]

That's not using the same chipset, is it?

AFAIK, it's not native to that AMD chipset, so it had to be using a 3rd-party chipset. Otherwise, we would be seeing USB3.0 as a standard feature on E-350 boards.

 

[86waterpumper]

just out of curiosity how much would it add to the cost of the board really to add a feature such as usb 3.0 even if they had to add a seperate from the chipset? pci-e usb 3.0 cards for desktop systems can now be bought for under 10 dollars, and surely those cost alot more they have a backplate, connector to the mb, usually a driver disk etc.