Celeb fails at math completely

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illusion88

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'll probably never be useful for you only because you probably weren't good enough at it, nor did you really get into a lot of applications with it. Hell, I've used calculus to help me with cooking.
Ok, I've got to hear about that.

I would love to know how calculus, and not just basic arithmetic, helped you cook something. Did you derive a new ingredient from two unknown ingredients?
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'll probably never be useful for you only because you probably weren't good enough at it, nor did you really get into a lot of applications with it. Hell, I've used calculus to help me with cooking.
Ok, I've got to hear about that.

I would love to know how calculus, and not just basic arithmetic, helped you cook something. Did you derive a new ingredient from two unknown ingredients?

Maybe he calculated the area underneath a lasagna noodle to figure out how much ricotta cheese he needed.
 

QueBert

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Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: sandorski
:laugh:

That was hilarious. Her mind went blank, a feeling I know too well when in front of a group.

She got it at the end, I don't blame her for panicking. Doesn't matter she's been on TV for a few decades. She was on a quiz show which put her out of her element. And she looks pretty damn hot for her age. Oh and she did get it on the end on her own, well she did all the calculations any ways.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'll probably never be useful for you only because you probably weren't good enough at it, nor did you really get into a lot of applications with it. Hell, I've used calculus to help me with cooking.
Ok, I've got to hear about that.

I made (30?) pounds of summer sausage with venison. Had to have my stove set to about as low as it could go. Final temperature of the meat had to be 155 degrees (or something; I no longer remember the exact temperature.) Too cool & I'd risk the meat spoiling quickly & making me sick. Any higher, and it would be overdone and not as tasty, juicy, or tender.

After 1 hour, I was supposed to monitor the temperature every 10 minutes until it was done. Since I knew the sausage started at room temperature, and measuring the internal temperature after 1 hour, as well as knowing the temperature of the oven, I was able to apply Newton's Law of Cooling (heating in this case). The rate at which the temperature would rise is directly proportional to the difference between the temperature of the sausage & the oven's temperature. About 30 seconds of calculating using the built in calculator in Window's Vista, and I saved a few hours of repeatedly checking the temperature. i.e. I used calculus to perfectly calculate what time my sausage would be done. Otherwise, I'd have been chained to the kitchen for another half of the day.

 

DarkThinker

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Honestly people, doesn't stuff like this smack your frontal lobe and get you to pause for a second?

I for instance with 2 Engineering degrees and quiet the history of ass busting work and I might JUST might MAYBE one day as in MAYBE in the deep DEEP future if God is smiling down upon me and the planets get aligned again and if all the galaxies in the Universe align as well, just might MAYBE reach the 6 figures income mark, while she can't figure out that

[ (3/4) x 10] = 7.5 = (5 x 1.50) ]

And she is in an income figure mark that she can't count (most probably)?

F THIS!
 

dguy6789

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Dec 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Honestly people, doesn't stuff like this smack your frontal lobe and get you to pause for a second?

I for instance with 2 Engineering degrees and quiet the history of ass busting work and I might JUST might MAYBE one day as in MAYBE in the deep DEEP future if God is smiling down upon me and the planets get aligned again and if all the galaxies in the Universe align as well, just might MAYBE reach the 6 figures income mark, while she can't figure out that

[ (3/4) x 10] = 7.5 = (5 x 1.50) ]

And she is in an income figure mark that she can't count (most probably)?

F THIS!

Life isn't fair.
 

sash1

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Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Oh and she did get it on the end on her own, well she did all the calculations any ways.

"90 pennies?"
"..."
"how many pennies make a dollar?"
"100"

yeah, she really figured that out on her own...
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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$7.50, so A?

Just finished watching.. she got there in the end.

Her problem was that she heard the question, got stressed and stopped thinking.

She was like "uh math, I don't know!!".
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Absolutely pathetic, isn't it? Maybe that's why all universities should require calculus as a part of all majors. That way, they can limit the amount of alumni who are perceived as stupid.

I think that's what the SAT aims to do - mathematical reasoning. One could easily do decently in a high school math class just by hard work, rote learning, and memorization, especially with homework being a high percentage of the grade in HS.

After doing several years of math tutoring, it seems to me that is purposely done so just about anyone could pass a class given that they put in the effort, knowing that there is always going to be a large percentage of the people out there that can't reason.

I fondly remember at my tutoring job, students are usually taught how to do percentages by taking the number after the word is, and putting it over the letter after the word of, and setting it equal to x/100.
If you ask them, what is 30% of 80, they can plug and chug to work it out.
If you ask them, a car costed $1000 and now costs 50% more, how much does it cost now? A good deal of them don't fucking have a clue.

Teaching mathematical reasoning is very difficult, if not impossible to a certain percentage of children. Perhaps this is why our education fails to even attempt at it for the most part.
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: sadffffff
i know its fun to be all high and mighty about something like this. but come on, this was obviously her being nervous. as op said, this is elementary math. she could obviously figure it out but was completely rattled if you watch how she acts. many people would be just as nervous and out of it.

thats not to say i didnt chuckle at it, though :)

I'm with you on this one. Just because she missed it doesn't mean anything about her intelligence. I'd be more inclined to think she just got taken aback and never recovered.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
I made (30?) pounds of summer sausage with venison. Had to have my stove set to about as low as it could go. Final temperature of the meat had to be 155 degrees (or something; I no longer remember the exact temperature.) Too cool & I'd risk the meat spoiling quickly & making me sick. Any higher, and it would be overdone and not as tasty, juicy, or tender.

After 1 hour, I was supposed to monitor the temperature every 10 minutes until it was done. Since I knew the sausage started at room temperature, and measuring the internal temperature after 1 hour, as well as knowing the temperature of the oven, I was able to apply Newton's Law of Cooling (heating in this case). The rate at which the temperature would rise is directly proportional to the difference between the temperature of the sausage & the oven's temperature. About 30 seconds of calculating using the built in calculator in Window's Vista, and I saved a few hours of repeatedly checking the temperature. i.e. I used calculus to perfectly calculate what time my sausage would be done. Otherwise, I'd have been chained to the kitchen for another half of the day.
Ah, ok.
I did something similar once, except I used canned equations learned during my Heat Transfer class. Someone else did the calculus work. :p
(I don't get along too well with calc.)


 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Udgnim
she gave up on herself before even thinking through the question

combine that with the pressure of being in front of a audience, and with each passing minute it compounds itself.....yeah I can understand her drawing a blank.

It' similar to test anxiety....you study and study, you know the information, but when the paper is flopped down in front of you ...you blank out and then you start watching the clock and the pressure mounts even more.

but yeah..if nothing else she should have been able to use process of elimination at the very least to come up with a reasonable guess.
 

Gibson486

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Aug 9, 2000
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it's bad to get that question wrong, but if you were asked questions on the spot, you may hesitate also. For one, some people cannot do math without a paper and pencil. Factor in that 100's of people are staring at you, yeah, it becomes tough for some. Also, there is a decimals invlolved...that scares people who are not math people.

That said...I am willing to bet that there are plenty of college grads out there who can't figure that out at all. For them...they should be ashamed.
 

Gibson486

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Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Absolutely pathetic, isn't it? Maybe that's why all universities should require calculus as a part of all majors. That way, they can limit the amount of alumni who are perceived as stupid.

Calculus? This is 1st grade arithmetic!

The point was, by requiring calculus, people who can't do 1st grade arithmetic wouldn't have college degrees. And, btw, I think it's actually 2nd grade arithmetic. $1.50 is 6 quarters (2nd grade? Maybe it's 1st grade.) 6 times 5 is 30. (times table... 2nd grade?)


Sadly though, through distance learning & online courses, I've run across people who have (or soon will have) master's degrees who would be challenged by that problem. :(

Dude, I know you are a teacher, but get off your high horse.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Honestly people, doesn't stuff like this smack your frontal lobe and get you to pause for a second?

I for instance with 2 Engineering degrees and quiet the history of ass busting work and I might JUST might MAYBE one day as in MAYBE in the deep DEEP future if God is smiling down upon me and the planets get aligned again and if all the galaxies in the Universe align as well, just might MAYBE reach the 6 figures income mark, while she can't figure out that

[ (3/4) x 10] = 7.5 = (5 x 1.50) ]

And she is in an income figure mark that she can't count (most probably)?

F THIS!

That's your fault. Just because you have 2 engineering degrees doesn't mean you get money. You decided to use them to work for other people...for people who probably just barely passed and have worse math skills than you. Maybe if you took your head of your science book, you'd see that the key to making money is to go after it yourself, not by working for a company to get them the big payout. This is comeing from a fellow engineer also.
 

arcenite

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Dec 9, 2001
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I only knew what the answer was because I could figure out what the answer wasn't.

if someone asked me what 30 quarters was worth I'd be SOL without a means to physically calculate. (well, except now I know that 30 quarters = $7.50... and 10 quarters = $2.50.... actually, I could probably do it now :beer:)
 

Eug

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Mar 11, 2000
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CBC IQ Test - Compare your score to Canadians, and to specific teams

The link is to a more recent test. The scores here are from 2007:

Surgeons 119
Millionaires 118
Fitness Instructors 112
Mayors 110
Radio DJs 108
Tattoo Artists 101
Celebrities 98

Blondes were 109.3, compared to 107.8 for those with black hair.
Vegans were 104, compared to 110 for meat eaters.

The average was well over 100 and less than 110 IIRC (and IQ tests don't have to have a mean of 100), but I don't remember the exact number. The teams were 36 each (except I think the celebrities team was smaller), and over 100000 Canadians took the test.
 

DT4K

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Jan 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'll probably never be useful for you only because you probably weren't good enough at it, nor did you really get into a lot of applications with it. Hell, I've used calculus to help me with cooking.
Ok, I've got to hear about that.

I made (30?) pounds of summer sausage with venison. Had to have my stove set to about as low as it could go. Final temperature of the meat had to be 155 degrees (or something; I no longer remember the exact temperature.) Too cool & I'd risk the meat spoiling quickly & making me sick. Any higher, and it would be overdone and not as tasty, juicy, or tender.

After 1 hour, I was supposed to monitor the temperature every 10 minutes until it was done. Since I knew the sausage started at room temperature, and measuring the internal temperature after 1 hour, as well as knowing the temperature of the oven, I was able to apply Newton's Law of Cooling (heating in this case). The rate at which the temperature would rise is directly proportional to the difference between the temperature of the sausage & the oven's temperature. About 30 seconds of calculating using the built in calculator in Window's Vista, and I saved a few hours of repeatedly checking the temperature. i.e. I used calculus to perfectly calculate what time my sausage would be done. Otherwise, I'd have been chained to the kitchen for another half of the day.

Well done sir!

I nominate this for the geekiest post of the year award.